# Former staffer accuses Joe Biden of sexual assault

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393>\
**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [March 27, 2020, 3:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393 "2020-03-27T03:13:05Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [March 28, 2020, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/161 "2020-03-28T23:41:35Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Sure, it’s understandable that when you first see someone on the National stage your memory might be jogged or you might decide to do something.
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> Except Joe Biden has been on the national stage since 2008, and she was working with him in the SENATE in 1993, when the alleged incident happened. Then she got out of American politics are she decided she loved Putin. The US Senate aint exactly dogcatcher.

Joe Biden was definitely on the national stage in 1987 during the Bork hearings as well as the Thomas hearings in 1991. He wasn’t some anonymous Senator Crapo

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**Author:** ![crowmanyclouds](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/crowmanyclouds/32/19884_2.png) [@crowmanyclouds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/crowmanyclouds)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/162 "2020-03-29T01:08:17Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> Joe Biden was definitely on the national stage in 1987 during the Bork hearings as well as the Thomas hearings in 1991. He wasn’t some anonymous Senator Crapo

On? He was chair of the Judiciary committee, he was center stage.

CMC fnord!

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**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/163 "2020-03-29T01:30:35Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> Except Joe Biden has been on the national stage since 2008

Which some might argue is itself a reason for someone to be afraid of coming forward, especially when young and steeped in an environment they know won’t take them seriously.

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**Author:** ![Mangosteen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Mangosteen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangosteen)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 1:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/164 "2020-03-29T01:45:10Z")

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> [@SuntanLotion](#):
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> My friend says it’s a plot by the Russians

My friend says its a plot by the DNC.

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**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/165 "2020-03-29T01:47:02Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> The ‘story’ has been out for three days and no one from a respectable news outlet has mentioned it. As if there aren’t 1000s of reporters on Twitter desperate for a different story than Corona. Even red rose Twitter has kinda backed off, just their usual trolling with creepy GIFs and memes.

I heard about it on the Rachel Maddow show.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 1:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/166 "2020-03-29T01:54:36Z")

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> [@dalej42](#):
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> The ‘story’ has been out for three days and no one from a respectable news outlet has mentioned it. As if there aren’t 1000s of reporters on Twitter desperate for a different story than Corona. Even red rose Twitter has kinda backed off, just their usual trolling with creepy GIFs and memes.

Newsweek and Vox covered it, but whether it snowballs is unclear.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 3:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/167 "2020-03-29T03:33:54Z")

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> [@Leaper](#):
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> Which some might argue is itself a reason for someone to be afraid of coming forward, especially when young and steeped in an environment they know won’t take them seriously.

That was given as to _why_ they’d come forward after **17 years.** And so then, it’s a really bad reason to come forward now.

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 11:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/168 "2020-03-29T11:35:07Z")

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> [@DrDeth](#):
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> That was given as to _why_ they’d come forward after **17 years.** And so then, it’s a really bad reason to come forward now.

There is no bad reason to come forward, at any time, for women to speak out about their experiences.

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**Author:** ![septimus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/septimus/32/410_2.png) [@septimus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/septimus)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 12:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/169 "2020-03-29T12:09:05Z")

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> [@Kearsen1](#):
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> This sounds eerily like the things the Republicans were saying about the testimony of Christine Blasey Ford …

😕 Ms. Blasey Ford also wrote (or was accused of writing) love letters to Vladimir Putin? Cite?

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/170 "2020-03-29T12:42:05Z")

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> [@Lightnin](#):
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> This may be exactly the break the Bernie Sanders campaign is looking for!
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> It’s kind of sickening, actually, how readily and eagerly Bernie’s supporters are pushing this story online. It’s just like 2016, all over again.

I despise Bernie, but i think it should be investigated.

> [@eschereal](#):
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> Something is going to happen to force Joe to drop out, and the Party will end up _ad hoc_ nominating someone else entirely. Maybe some governor whose name ends in a vowel because he happens to inspire a lot of people at the time.

yup. There’s no reason Biden’s delegates, or Warren’s, or Buttigiegs’s, or any superdelegates have to vote for Bernie.

I think it would be politically easier for to vote for one of the other candidates who has some delegates than a completely new candidate, like Cuomo, but I’m pretty sure the rules allow them to nominate Cuomo, or anyone else.

Which I guess means that even though i think this should be investigated, I don’t think Biden should drop out yet. Let him rack up some more delegates while the investigation takes place.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/171 "2020-03-29T13:43:06Z")

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This is not a good development for Biden, and let’s face it: he’s not exactly a candidate anyone’s going to really be enthusiastic about.

Maybe this would be a good time for Biden to feel unwell, bow out, and give someone else (not Bernie) a shot while there’s time.

There are no good options for Dems right now.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/172 "2020-03-29T13:53:34Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> Newsweek and Vox covered it, but whether it snowballs is unclear.

The Newsweek and Guardian bits (I didn’t see it on Vox) were focused more on “Women want to speak about abuse by people in power” than the actual merits of the claims.

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**Author:** ![CarnalK](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnalk/32/486_2.png) [@CarnalK](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CarnalK)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/173 "2020-03-29T14:04:03Z")

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I’m sure some of the news sites and Dem people are going to poke around but unless a bombshell really turns up, very little oxygen should be given to this story. I am for listening to women but she’s going to tell two different stories in the same election run? Ridiculous.

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**Author:** ![asahi](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/asahi/32/8693_2.png) [@asahi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asahi)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 2:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/174 "2020-03-29T14:04:24Z")

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> The Newsweek and Guardian bits (I didn’t see it on Vox) were focused more on “Women want to speak about abuse by people in power” than the actual merits of the claims.

I’m on record as being skeptical, but there’s nothing that leads me to believe that her claims are outright bullshit either. And given the accounts of other women, it’s pretty clear he had creepy tendencies at one time in his life.

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**Author:** ![drad\_dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/aeb1de/32.png) [@drad\_dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drad_dog)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/175 "2020-03-29T16:44:29Z")

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> [@asahi](#):
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> There are no good options for Dems right now.

Boy you’ve changed.

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/176 "2020-03-29T16:51:52Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> I’m not really concerned about changing the way society treats accused people, since society generally supports and defends powerful men accused of sexual assault. The exceptions are extremely rare.

Are you not concerned with how society treats accused rich powerful men or how society treats the accused? Because most times, the accused is not a rich powerful man.

Rule of law is pretty important in this context considering this nation’s history of how it treats poor and minority men accused of sexual misconduct. Especially against white women (we generally don’t seem to raise as much dust over accusations by poor or minority women).

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**Author:** ![Damuri\_Ajashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/898d66/32.png) [@Damuri\_Ajashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Damuri_Ajashi)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 4:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/177 "2020-03-29T16:54:42Z")

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> [@septimus](#):
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> 😕 Ms. Blasey Ford also wrote (or was accused of writing) love letters to Vladimir Putin? Cite?

Wait, you think THAT’s the part that sounds eerily similar?

Come on, you’re better than this? Or am I confusing you with someone else?

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**Author:** ![iiandyiiii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/iiandyiiii/32/7924_2.png) [@iiandyiiii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/iiandyiiii)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 5:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/178 "2020-03-29T17:19:38Z")

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> [@Damuri\_Ajashi](#):
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> Are you not concerned with how society treats accused rich powerful men or how society treats the accused? Because most times, the accused is not a rich powerful man.
> 
> Rule of law is pretty important in this context considering this nation’s history of how it treats poor and minority men accused of sexual misconduct. Especially against white women (we generally don’t seem to raise as much dust over accusations by poor or minority women).

This is all entirely irrelevant for this thread.

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**Author:** ![DrDeth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b487fb/32.png) [@DrDeth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrDeth)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 6:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/179 "2020-03-29T18:08:36Z")

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> [@iiandyiiii](#):
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> There is no bad reason to come forward, at any time, for women to speak out about their experiences.

Sure there is, when it didnt happen, and you are coming forward only to help your buddies Putin & Sanders.

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**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\
**Post date:** [March 29, 2020, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-staffer-accuses-joe-biden-of-sexual-assault/850393/180 "2020-03-29T18:24:09Z")

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> [@CarnalK](#):
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> I’m sure some of the news sites and Dem people are going to poke around but unless a bombshell really turns up, very little oxygen should be given to this story.

That’s my guess. I’m sure it’s being investigated because media joints want to break big stories. I also think it’s telling that the couple stories about it so far have been just picking around the edges rather than “Biden Sexually Assaulted Woman!”. Suggests, to me, that no one has found enough to it to risk coming up to bat.

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