# Former VP Cheney hospitalized, resting comfortably. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 23, 2010, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071 "2010-02-23T02:35:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 3:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071/21 "2010-02-23T03:57:48Z")
He can’t die. At worst, they’ll change his battery and reboot him. He may also need an updated BIOS. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 3:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071/22 "2010-02-23T03:59:07Z")
> [@Rand\_Rover](#): > > Aw yeah, bitches. Who’s bringing the kleenex? Are we going with the K-Y Intense or the regular stuff? Not sure I like the Intense–little much for me. > > BTW, I’m thinking of signing up just so I can get the custom title “Circle Jerk Cock Blocker.” fap fap fap fap fap Oh CPAC Oh Teleprompting Oh tea baaaaaabgggigigiiggggggggg ahh… ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 4:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071/23 "2010-02-23T04:01:31Z")
> [@Kimstu](#): > > Here’s a [link](http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE61M0GM20100223) about Cheney’s chest-pain episode and hospitalization today. > > While I’m no fan of Dick Cheney, I have to say I don’t think this is the most appropriate occasion for starting a Pit thread about him. I’ll confine my remarks to saying that I hope for Cheney’s family’s sake that he recovers quickly from this episode, and I’m happy that he has access to high-quality affordable health care so that he can receive excellent medical attention and care when he experiences symptoms that might presage a medical emergency, and I wish that more Americans were as fortunate in that regard as he is. I don’t do this. But +1 ---
**Author:** ![smiling\_bandit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/e9a140/32.png) [@smiling\_bandit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/smiling_bandit)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071/24 "2010-02-23T04:05:51Z")
Well, at least now we all very clearly get to see the true face of the board’s Left. ---
**Author:** ![Kimstu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/ecd19e/32.png) [@Kimstu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kimstu)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 4:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071/25 "2010-02-23T04:07:41Z")
> [@BrainGlutton](#): > > So what would be? When he does something assholish and/or stupid, or is found out in having previously done something assholish and/or stupid, while he’s _not_ experiencing a health crisis. I’d think there’d be lots of opportunities that qualify. (At the very least, I’d think one could Pit the guy **without** making his health crisis the ostensible topic of the Pitting.) ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 4:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071/26 "2010-02-23T04:20:05Z")
> [@smiling\_bandit](#): > > Well, at least now we all very clearly get to see the true face of the board’s Left. Heh. Did you know Senator Kennedy died? Remember the face of the board’s right? While I hope, for the sake of our common humanity, that Cheney pulls through this crisis, that does not reflect a view on my part that he is worth being respected. He is a disgusting man, a disgusting politician, a disgusting human being. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Facts](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bb73d2/32.png) [@The\_Facts](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Facts)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 4:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071/27 "2010-02-23T04:27:45Z")
Fuck him. I hope he dies in agony. ---
**Author:** ![Polycarp](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/82dd89/32.png) [@Polycarp](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Polycarp)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 4:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071/28 "2010-02-23T04:30:30Z")
…Although I was amused by the comment from his earlier hospitalization: “V.P. Dick Cheney has been admitted to the hospital, for suspected heart problems.” “Impossible!” “Why do you say that? That’s what you’d expect for a public figure complaining of heart problems.” “But that implies that Cheney has a heart.” 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Zakalwe](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/zakalwe/32/270_2.png) [@Zakalwe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zakalwe)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071/29 "2010-02-23T04:39:17Z")
I still can’t get over the fact the Rand FREEDOM Rover is a fan of the man who went above and beyond the call of duty to try to create the most coercive, authoritarian government this country has ever seen. Kinda makes you wonder what bridge he lives under, don’t it? ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071/30 "2010-02-23T04:39:43Z")
I’m praying for a speedy recovery and return home. After all, we don’t want any health care workers shot in the face. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071/31 "2010-02-23T04:41:22Z")
> [@](#): > > I still can’t get over the fact the Rand FREEDOM Rover is a fan of the man who went above and beyond the call of duty to try to create the most coercive, authoritarian government this country has ever seen. Judging from his homoerotic post, it appears it’s a physical attraction. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071/32 "2010-02-23T04:41:23Z")
> [@smiling\_bandit](#): > > Well, at least now we all very clearly get to see the true face of the board’s Left. A comment that would have a bit more sting if those of the left didn’t on a fairly regular basis make it clear that we as a group utterly despise the man whenever his name comes up. I see it as no worse being happy about Cheney’s misfortune, as it is when people comment on how they find it satisfying when some serial killer gets cancer or something of the sort. Serial killers have a much lower body count, after all. > [@Zakalwe](#): > > I still can’t get over the fact the Rand FREEDOM Rover is a fan of the man who went above and beyond the call of duty to try to create the most coercive, authoritarian government this country has ever seen. > > Kinda makes you wonder what bridge he lives under, don’t it? The Ayn Rand Memorial bridge. ---
**Author:** ![Lord\_Ashtar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ea924/32.png) [@Lord\_Ashtar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lord_Ashtar)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 4:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071/33 "2010-02-23T04:47:46Z")
> [@smiling\_bandit](#): > > Well, at least now we all very clearly get to see the true face of the board’s Left. > [@Frank](#): > > Heh. Did you know Senator Kennedy died? Remember the face of the board’s right? So everybody is an asshole. ---
**Author:** ![Frank](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/3d9bf3/32.png) [@Frank](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frank)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071/34 "2010-02-23T05:08:03Z")
> [@Lord\_Ashtar](#): > > So everybody is an asshole. Possibly, though the “everybody” has not been demonstrated in this thread, nor, in fairness, was it demonstrated in the Kennedy threads. I suspect you missed my point. ---
**Author:** ![phouka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c5a1d2/32.png) [@phouka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/phouka)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 6:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071/35 "2010-02-23T06:30:16Z")
When I saw the headline, my thought was “Huh. Hope he’s in a lot of pain and dies soon.” I’ve never said or thought that about another human being. I feel guilty. Okay, done now. ---
**Author:** ![tumbleddown](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e9bcb4/32.png) [@tumbleddown](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tumbleddown)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 6:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071/36 "2010-02-23T06:54:55Z")
I hope he enjoys the care he’s getting off of my dime. I’m uninsurable with not anything nearly as ugly or costly as the health history he has. If there were any justice in the world, he would be a victim of recission like so many thousands of Americans have been and he’d be struggling to figure out how to pay for his care from all his Halliburton blood money. ---
**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 7:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071/37 "2010-02-23T07:17:02Z")
Geez, at this point, having a “Cheney in the hospital” thread is like the free space on a Bingo card. But I want him to live long enough for his legacy to be widely accepted as an evil one in American history. ---
**Author:** ![MrDibble](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mrdibble/32/114_2.png) [@MrDibble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MrDibble)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 7:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071/38 "2010-02-23T07:33:09Z")
I’m OK with him dying in pain and fear, and his negative legacy being shaped after he’s dead. Right now, I’d hope he dies choking on **Rand Rover** ’s penis, which seems to be what \*\*Rand \*\*really wants, but I fear Rand doesn’t have the goods to choke a chicken, much less an experienced swordswallower like Cheney (all those Bohemian Grove get-togethers, don’tchaknow). ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 8:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071/39 "2010-02-23T08:05:16Z")
I suppose the question is what is civilized behavior? A man is in the hospital. In polite society, without knowing anything else, we would be shocked to hear someone speak ill. Is there an exception, and if so, is this it? Neither Ted Kennedy or Dick Cheney were ever convicted of murdering someone, although both sides argue that there was probable cause for believing that, no indicting authority has ever indicted for murder. (Kennedy was indicted and pled guilty to leaving the scene of a crime.) The right and the left would argue that their respective boogeyman was the person who did the most damage to the Republic with their political career. Each side would argue that the bad guy was insincere. I cannot fathom anyone arguing that Kennedy was anywhere as evil as Cheney, but then I face the fact that it must certainly exist and with sincerity. It boils down to what is the nature of evil and has the life of that person amounted to making the world a better place or a worse place. As strongly as I feel Cheney has done more damage to the country than any American in history, he isn’t even under indictment, much less convicted. So I’m not happy about his suffering, or his family’s worry. The only time I’ve ever felt that way about a famous figure in spite of myself was when Jesse Helms died. I thought he was a racist provoking hatred out of hatred and spite. I thought and still think truly un-Christian thoughts about that man. Part of me thinks that Cheney has convinced himself that all of his wrongheadedness was the right thing, despite the fact that he profited tremendously from it. ---
**Author:** ![Der\_Trihs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/der_trihs/32/233_2.png) [@Der\_Trihs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Der_Trihs)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 8:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071/40 "2010-02-23T08:27:04Z")
> [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > Neither Ted Kennedy or Dick Cheney were ever convicted of murdering someone, although both sides argue that there was probable cause for believing that, no indicting authority has ever indicted for murder. (Kennedy was indicted and pled guilty to leaving the scene of a crime.) Cheney is above the law; the fact that he hasn’t been convicted is meaningless since for all practical purposes, laws do not apply to him. And someone comparing one incident from Kennedy, to the mass death and suffering and torture Cheney helped cause is ridiculous. Even if Kennedy had eaten Mary Jo Kopechne alive on television, he would not be nearly as evil as Cheney. > [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > Part of me thinks that Cheney has convinced himself that all of his wrongheadedness was the right thing, despite the fact that he profited tremendously from it. I doubt that it has ever occurred to him that anything he did was wrong. Especially because he profited from it, not in spite of it; profit proves his virtuousness, proves his favor in the eyes of God. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071.md?page=3)