# Former VP Cheney hospitalized, resting comfortably. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 23, 2010, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071 "2010-02-23T02:35:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 9:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071/41 "2010-02-23T09:55:24Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > Cheney is above the law; the fact that he hasn’t been convicted is meaningless since for all practical purposes, laws do not apply to him. And someone comparing one incident from Kennedy, to the mass death and suffering and torture Cheney helped cause is ridiculous. Even if Kennedy had eaten Mary Jo Kopechne alive on television, he would not be nearly as evil as Cheney. > > I doubt that it has ever occurred to him that anything he did was wrong. Especially because he profited from it, not in spite of it; profit proves his virtuousness, proves his favor in the eyes of God. The larger part of me laughs with the painful truth of each word of this. The better part of me cries about the truth of it. But I do like to pretend about a nation of laws and hope for Cheney’s Hague trial. ---
**Author:** ![El\_Kabong](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/el_kabong/32/496_2.png) [@El\_Kabong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/El_Kabong)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 1:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071/42 "2010-02-23T13:53:42Z")
> [@smiling\_bandit](#): > > Well, at least now we all very clearly get to see the true face of the board’s Left. I’m fairly far to the left, as the the American joke left goes, but until this point I hadn’t weighed in to wish Cheney dead, or whatever it is we ‘board left’ are supposed to be in lockstep about. FTR, I don’t wish Cheney dead at all. Actually, I prefer to see him live long enough to be indicted, but have no illusions that this will ever happen. Find a smaller brush, if you please. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 2:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071/43 "2010-02-23T14:27:42Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Heh. Did you know Senator Kennedy died? Remember the face of the board’s right? Who is the face of the board’s right? I’d say **Bricker** is pretty representative of conservatives that I know personally. What did he say when Kennedy died? I recall nothing disrespectful of the event. While I don’t make any claims to represent anything or be the face of anything specific, I am undoubtedly one of the board’s more conservative members. Do you have an issue with anything I said in that period? I am not saying other members here did not behave badly when Kennedy died - they certainly did. But if the Internet has shown us anything in the last couple of decades, it is that some people will do so in commenting on a newsworthy event, and others will seize on those examples as representative of that side - as the face of the right or the left. I have fallen into that trap myself many times in the past. Are you going to do so now? As for Vice President Cheney - at a time like this it is appropriate to set aside political agreement and disagreement alike. I merely wish him well. ---
**Author:** ![Rand\_Rover](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/db5fbb/32.png) [@Rand\_Rover](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rand_Rover)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071/44 "2010-02-23T14:38:52Z")
> [@Zakalwe](#): > > I still can’t get over the fact the Rand FREEDOM Rover is a fan of the man who went above and beyond the call of duty to try to create the most coercive, authoritarian government this country has ever seen. What’s your evidence for that proposition? All I’ve ever said about Cheney lately (and I think ever) is (a) in Dio’s thread, the released reports do not show (much less “prove”) that he lied about whether enhanced interrogartion techniques yielded useful intel and (b) this thread is a circle jerk thread (ie, a contentless thread started only to provide an opportunity for liberal douches to foam at the mouth about a liberal douche issue). That hardly makes me a fan of Cheney. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071/45 "2010-02-23T14:53:27Z")
> [@Frank](#): > > Heh. Did you know Senator Kennedy died? Remember the face of the board’s right? > > While I hope, for the sake of our common humanity, that Cheney pulls through this crisis, that does not reflect a view on my part that he is worth being respected. He is a disgusting man, a disgusting politician, a disgusting human being. > [@Mr.Moto](#): > > Who is the face of the board’s right? I’d say **Bricker** is pretty representative of conservatives that I know personally. What did he say when Kennedy died? I recall nothing disrespectful of the event. Here’s what I said about Senator Kennedy: > [@Ted Kennedy is dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-kennedy-is-dead/507746/38): > > Senator Kennedy will be missed. I disagreed with the vast majority of his positions, but never doubted his commitment to better the world. We disagreed on the best way to do that, but he devoted his life to public service in the truest sense of the word. He was, indeed, the Lion of the Senate, and we are richer for having him here and poorer for his passing. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Moto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9de0a6/32.png) [@Mr.Moto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Moto)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 2:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071/46 "2010-02-23T14:57:17Z")
This is what I said: > [@Ted Kennedy is dead](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/ted-kennedy-is-dead/507746/101): > > There will be lots and lots of time later to debate Ted Kennedy’s legacy - the good and the bad of it. I will gladly join in when that comes, but I won’t do that today. > > I do wish condolences for the Kennedy family, and for those people here who feel a personal sadness in his death I wish you comfort as well. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071/47 "2010-02-23T15:00:06Z")
Left/right has nothing to do with it. Cheney is a scumbag and Ted Kennedy wasn’t. It’s just that simple. ---
**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 3:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071/48 "2010-02-23T15:26:11Z")
Mouthing a few insincere platitudes after the death of someone who was (up until the exhalation of their last breath a few moments prior) excoriated for a lifetime in the most vicious terms imaginable does accord a certain moral high ground, I suppose. I also appear slightly taller when standing on a matchbook. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071/49 "2010-02-23T15:38:20Z")
> [@The Second Stone](#): > > I suppose the question is what is civilized behavior? This is civilized behavior. - > [@FriarTed](#): > > God grant you rest, Senator Kennedy, reward your virtues and forgive your sins, through Jesus Christ our Lord, Amen. > [@](#): > > May the souls of the faithful departed, thru the mercy of Christ, rest in peace. > > I didn’t agree with pretty much anything he said or did in his public life. Nonetheless, as Bob Dole said, he was my opponent, not my enemy. > > My condolences to his family and his constituents. This is not - > [@](#): > > Cheney is a scumbag > [@](#): > > I’m OK with him dying in pain and fear > [@](#): > > Hope he’s in a lot of pain and dies soon. > [@](#): > > Fuck him. I hope he dies in agony. > [@](#): > > Part of me hopes the fucker dies. > [@](#): > > There is no mercy for the POS that the world knows as Dick Cheney. Ah yes, the compassionate, tolerant Left Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![villa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/bc79bd/32.png) [@villa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/villa)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071/50 "2010-02-23T15:38:52Z")
> [@Mr.Moto](#): > > As for Vice President Cheney - at a time like this it is appropriate to set aside political agreement and disagreement alike. I merely wish him well. Is there ever a time when grave-dancing is acceptable? (Or hospital bed-dancing, I guess). I mean is the complaint here that this behavior is always unacceptable, or that Cheney isn’t “bad” enough to warrant it? And on the same page, obviously the level of misfortune the person suffers should play into the equation too. How bad does someone have to suffer before it is unacceptable to take pleasure from it? I don’t think I am a bad person for findig it amusing if, say, Rush Limbaugh slipped on the ice walking out of his studio. I’d feel worse about myself if I found it amusing if he slipped on the ice and impaled himself through the eyeballs on a spiked fence. ---
**Author:** ![MsWhatsit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/eb8c5e/32.png) [@MsWhatsit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MsWhatsit)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071/51 "2010-02-23T15:40:39Z")
Well, I for one hope he pulls through. Because I don’t have him on my Death Pool list this year. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 3:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071/52 "2010-02-23T15:47:21Z")
> [@Shodan](#): > > This is civilized behavior. - > > This is not - > Ah yes, the compassionate, tolerant Left It’s a statement on those particular inviduals (a great, important, significant Senate figure who once got in a car accident vs. a scumbag, lying, torturing, warmongering psychopath), not on their ideology. There _wasn’t_ anything bad to say about Teddy. “Compassion” and “tolerance” does not mean you have to tolerate evil, or feel compassion for evil people. ---
**Author:** ![gonzomax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e8c25b/32.png) [@gonzomax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gonzomax)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071/53 "2010-02-23T15:57:02Z")
It is hard to feel compassion for Cheney. I don’t want him to die a horrible painful death. I do believe he caused that for thousands of all ages around the world though. I think he was a big part of the problem of what went wrong in this country. He has come to symbolize the heartless greed and aggressive policies that ruined Americas reputation and destroyed our financial status. I suppose he is a believer in a big picture I don’t see. I am strongly anti-war. That puts me at odds with someone who sees it as a political and business maneuver. I have difficulty thinking nice thought about him, Bush , Rumsfield, Reagan, Kissinger ,and the neo-cons who demonstrated such little respect for life and respect for international sovereignty. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 4:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071/54 "2010-02-23T16:14:09Z")
Poor hospital staff. ---
**Author:** ![Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Carol\_the\_Impaler](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Carol_the_Impaler)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 4:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071/55 "2010-02-23T16:17:36Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > “Compassion” and “tolerance” does not mean you have to tolerate evil, or feel compassion for evil people. I couldn’t agree with this more. I simply do not understand what it is about being either a) close to death, b) in the hospital, or c) old that means you automatically get compassion. Some people, frankly, don’t deserve it. Some people have spent their entire lives hurting people. Some people have destroyed any respect they may have had in the beginning. I feel compassion for the thousands that are dead in part because of Cheney’s actions. ---
**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071/56 "2010-02-23T16:19:12Z")
> [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](#): > > It’s a statement on those particular inviduals No, it’s not. It is merely your knee jerking. It might be polite to pretend that there is any higher brain function involved, but there isn’t. A Republican dies, you attack him or her automatically. You said you wanted someone to dig up Reagan’s corpse and sodomize it. You said you hoped Tony Snow died in agony for no other reason than that because he was press secretary for the White House. You did the same thing when Limbaugh was sick. You are doing now that Cheney is sick. When Cheney dies, you will do it again. > [@](#): > > “Compassion” and “tolerance” does not mean you have to tolerate evil, or feel compassion for evil people. “Compassion” and “tolerance” from your lips don’t mean anything at all. When you said this - > [@](#): > > Left/right has nothing to do with it. You were lying. It has everything to do with it. It is completely determinative of how you will react. Regards, Shodan ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071/57 "2010-02-23T16:19:39Z")
> [@phouka](#): > > When I saw the headline, my thought was “Huh. Hope he’s in a lot of pain and dies soon.” > > I’ve never said or thought that about another human being. I feel guilty. > > Okay, done now. Guilt is for suckers and the religiously indoctrinated. Compassion in this case should be reserved for the compassionate. Dick Cheney is probably the least caring human in the public eye today. ---
**Author:** ![simple\_homer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@simple\_homer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simple_homer)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071/58 "2010-02-23T16:20:04Z")
The traitor deserves a fate worse than Hell. I hope he suffers in agony for years. ---
**Author:** ![Gangster\_Octopus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a8b319/32.png) [@Gangster\_Octopus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gangster_Octopus)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071/59 "2010-02-23T16:37:29Z")
That guy is much the reason that thousands of America’s finest lost their lives in a pointless war in Iraq. I hope he suffers. ---
**Author:** ![simple\_homer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@simple\_homer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simple_homer)\ **Post date:** [February 23, 2010, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071/60 "2010-02-23T16:37:59Z")
For me, this is not a Democrat vs Republican issue. Bob Dole is also in the hospital, and I do not see any threads wishing him ill will. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-vp-cheney-hospitalized-resting-comfortably/530071.md?page=4)