# FORMER Wisconsin hospital employee deliberately destroys \>500 doses of COVID vaccine **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [December 31, 2020, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-wisconsin-hospital-employee-deliberately-destroys-500-doses-of-covid-vaccine/929323 "2020-12-31T04:52:16Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 11
**Author:** ![DesertDog](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/desertdog/32/11503_2.png) [@DesertDog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DesertDog)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2021, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-wisconsin-hospital-employee-deliberately-destroys-500-doses-of-covid-vaccine/929323/201 "2021-02-02T20:03:59Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > He likes driving big trucks. No, he likes _sitting_ in a big truck wishing he could drive one. Kind of like Marie Antoinette and her sterling milk pail. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2021, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-wisconsin-hospital-employee-deliberately-destroys-500-doses-of-covid-vaccine/929323/202 "2021-02-02T22:11:13Z")
One can probably easily guess which one he think he is. ---
**Author:** ![ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chockfullofheadygoodness/32/511_2.png) [@ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ChockFullOfHeadyGoodness)\ **Post date:** [February 2, 2021, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-wisconsin-hospital-employee-deliberately-destroys-500-doses-of-covid-vaccine/929323/203 "2021-02-02T22:22:27Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > Even driving a vehicle is marginal. Hah!! Sov. cits never drive, they travel!! So there. Can’t stop 'em now!!! ---
**Author:** ![Drsunflower1](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drsunflower1/32/12711_2.png) [@Drsunflower1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drsunflower1)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 8:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-wisconsin-hospital-employee-deliberately-destroys-500-doses-of-covid-vaccine/929323/204 "2021-03-17T08:50:02Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > BTW, that death delusion syndrome is called “Cotard’s Delusion.” Caitlin Doughty (“Ask A Mortician”) did a video about it a while back; the video is SFW. Thanks for this. I’m a big fan of her work, her books are very informative and hilarious at the same time. I’ve actually treated patients who were suffering from this, way back when I was a resident in clinical work. It’s a form of affective psychosis, kind of the ultimate nihilistic (depressive) delusion and it really, really sucks. People can actually see and smell themselves rotting away. Plus it can be difficult to get consent for treatment, because they believe it will be useless, give that they’re already dead. ECT usually works, though. The diminished brain activity reported in an earlier post is interesting, however what usually fails to become clear is whether that phenomenon is what causes the syndrome or is just the expression of the ailment, like decreased hippocampal volume in major depression and psychosis. ---
**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-wisconsin-hospital-employee-deliberately-destroys-500-doses-of-covid-vaccine/929323/205 "2021-03-17T17:43:01Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > The parents were initially found guilty of neglect-related charges, but on appeal a judge threw out the guilty verdict. The state (crown) appealed, noting that among other things the judge rejected an expert witness’ testimony because he didn’t like the expert’s accent and command of English. That appeal was heard in June 2020; I haven’t heard of a subsequent verdict. As of this month, a 3rd trial has been ordered. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [March 17, 2021, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-wisconsin-hospital-employee-deliberately-destroys-500-doses-of-covid-vaccine/929323/206 "2021-03-17T21:55:19Z")
The first trial resulted in a conviction, which was ultimately set aside by the Supreme Court of Canada on the basis that the trial judge misinstructed the jury. They were acquitted at the second trial, but Canadian law allows for a Crown appeal on errors of law. As **outlierrn** mentions, the Court of Appeal allowed the Crown appeal earlier this month and sent it back for re-trial, on the basis of reasonable apprehension of bias by the trial judge. Haven’t heard if they will try to appeal to the Supreme Court a second time. ---
**Author:** ![N9IWP](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/n9iwp/32/3154_2.png) [@N9IWP](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/N9IWP)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-wisconsin-hospital-employee-deliberately-destroys-500-doses-of-covid-vaccine/929323/207 "2021-06-08T22:45:50Z")
Former pharmacist who intentionally destroyed 500 doses sentenced to 3 years in prison: [https://wxow.com/2021/06/08/ex-wisconsin-pharmacist-gets-prison-for-ruining-vaccine-2/](https://wxow.com/2021/06/08/ex-wisconsin-pharmacist-gets-prison-for-ruining-vaccine-2/) Brian ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-wisconsin-hospital-employee-deliberately-destroys-500-doses-of-covid-vaccine/929323/208 "2021-06-08T23:16:40Z")
Thanks for the update. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-wisconsin-hospital-employee-deliberately-destroys-500-doses-of-covid-vaccine/929323/209 "2021-06-08T23:18:02Z")
Seems about right. And the end of his career as pharmacist, presumably. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-wisconsin-hospital-employee-deliberately-destroys-500-doses-of-covid-vaccine/929323/210 "2021-06-08T23:23:10Z")
Or a gig as Surgeon General in the 2025 Pompeo administration… ---
**Author:** ![Atamasama](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/atamasama/32/12961_2.png) [@Atamasama](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atamasama)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 11:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-wisconsin-hospital-employee-deliberately-destroys-500-doses-of-covid-vaccine/929323/211 "2021-06-08T23:33:24Z")
> [@Euphonious\_Polemic](#): > > 2025 Pompeo administration… Now you’re just trying to jinx the world. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-wisconsin-hospital-employee-deliberately-destroys-500-doses-of-covid-vaccine/929323/212 "2021-06-08T23:37:15Z")
Where, a prison government? LOL ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-wisconsin-hospital-employee-deliberately-destroys-500-doses-of-covid-vaccine/929323/213 "2021-06-08T23:38:53Z")
It wouldn’t be entirely surprising if he eventually made a living appearing at antivax events, writing a book about his martyrdom (Skyhorse Publishing is the go-to outfit for this sort of thing), etc. I’m still not sure how antivaxers trying to break up vaccination clinics or destroying vaccines squares with the classic antivaxer ideology which says that they don’t care if others get vaccinated as long as _they_ are not “coerced” into doing so. ---
**Author:** ![Joey\_P](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/919ad9/32.png) [@Joey\_P](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Joey_P)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-wisconsin-hospital-employee-deliberately-destroys-500-doses-of-covid-vaccine/929323/214 "2021-06-08T23:46:32Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > I’m still not sure how antivaxers trying to break up vaccination clinics or destroying vaccines squares with the classic antivaxer ideology which says that they don’t care if others get vaccinated as long as _they_ are not “coerced” into doing so. I think it’s similar to other mentalities in which ‘anyone should be allowed to do anything they want, as long as I agree with it’. Think about how many people (or certain groups of people) talk about Freedom of Speech/Expression until they’re blue in the face to defend what they’re doing, but the moment someone does something they don’t agree with they suddenly forget that those amendments work both ways. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [June 8, 2021, 11:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-wisconsin-hospital-employee-deliberately-destroys-500-doses-of-covid-vaccine/929323/215 "2021-06-08T23:46:46Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > I’m still not sure how antivaxers trying to break up vaccination clinics or destroying vaccines squares with the classic antivaxer ideology which says that they don’t care if others get vaccinated as long as _they_ are not “coerced” into doing so. Because as we’ve seen from another thread, the vaccine turns people into magnets: > [@Omnibus Stupid MFers in the news thread (Part 1)](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/omnibus-stupid-mfers-in-the-news-thread/931945/782): > > The Corona vaccine turns people into magnets. ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 12:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-wisconsin-hospital-employee-deliberately-destroys-500-doses-of-covid-vaccine/929323/216 "2021-06-09T00:08:04Z")
Holy mother of pearl. 🤪 ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-wisconsin-hospital-employee-deliberately-destroys-500-doses-of-covid-vaccine/929323/217 "2021-06-09T05:57:44Z")
The idea of the COVID vaccine is a magnet for bringing tinfoil hatters out of the woodwork. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 6:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-wisconsin-hospital-employee-deliberately-destroys-500-doses-of-covid-vaccine/929323/218 "2021-06-09T06:17:03Z")
> [@Jackmannii](#): > > I’m still not sure how antivaxers trying to break up vaccination clinics or destroying vaccines squares with the classic antivaxer ideology which says that they don’t care if others get vaccinated Never underestimate the crazy… > [@Fucking maskholes and vaxholes](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fucking-maskholes/915339/674): > > Deluded anti-vaxxer lunatics may now embrace social distancing and masking - because they are worried about getting cooties from people who have been vaccinated. One notable reported comment in that article: Another prominent anti-vaxxer suggested quarantining people who have been vaccinated. “There is something being passed from people who are shot up with this poison to others who have not gotten the shot,” said Larry Palevsky, a[New York pediatrician and anti-vaxxer,](https://www.insider.com/anti-vaccine-doctors-medical-license-free-speech-2019-5) Pediatrician? Ho… ---
**Author:** ![Odesio](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/odesio/32/20003_2.png) [@Odesio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Odesio)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 2:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-wisconsin-hospital-employee-deliberately-destroys-500-doses-of-covid-vaccine/929323/219 "2021-06-09T14:01:48Z")
> [@LSLGuy](#): > > It sure sounds to me like recent events have shown that a _lot_ of businesses and agencies have been derelict in their duty to find and remove the vast legions of insane people from their employment rolls. How would we screen for them? The truth is that kooky ideas don’t usually interfere with someone’s ability to perform their job duties. ---
**Author:** ![Mighty\_Mouse](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mighty_mouse/32/7776_2.png) [@Mighty\_Mouse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Mouse)\ **Post date:** [June 9, 2021, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-wisconsin-hospital-employee-deliberately-destroys-500-doses-of-covid-vaccine/929323/220 "2021-06-09T14:29:39Z")
We’ve lost two employees (in our team of 14-20) who were previously designated Hi-Per-Hi-Po (High Performance, High Potential) but were first taken off that list and then they left the company. I don’t know if they were pushed or jumped. But it wasn’t their beliefs, they felt it necessary to actually dispute on work Teams chat our company position on DEI, MeToo, BHM, vaccines and PRIDE. Up to an including making fun of the CEO/COO’s statements. Then getting all pissy about their Freedom of Speech being violated. There are several others who did some of these things who are still around. But the ones who just wouldn’t be counseled are out. One of them decided to challenge our company’s statement on APIHM LinkedIn. Actually quite a few employees did that but most were low level ones and no one really cares (we have hundreds of thousands of employees). But a mid-management person in Corporate just cannot do that. Glossary for those triggered by acronyms/initialisms. - DEI = Diversity Equity & Inclusion - BHM = Black History Month - MeToo = Movement against sexual harassment and abuse - PRIDE = Movement to de-stigmatize LGBT & Queer individuals - LGBT = Lesbian Gay Bisexual & Transgender - APIHM = Asian-American & Pacific Islander Heritage Month [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-wisconsin-hospital-employee-deliberately-destroys-500-doses-of-covid-vaccine/929323.md?page=10) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/former-wisconsin-hospital-employee-deliberately-destroys-500-doses-of-covid-vaccine/929323.md?page=12)