# Formula 1 2017 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [January 24, 2017, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028 "2017-01-24T13:47:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2017, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028/41 "2017-04-17T16:43:21Z")
> [@dzeiger](#): > > It’s amusing (in a sad way) that Alonso has a better shot at actually being able to finish a race at Indy than any given F1 race this year… Also amusing is that while Honda is holding Alonso back in F1, Honda has a good chance at winning at the 500. ---
**Author:** ![somepumpkin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/7feea3/32.png) [@somepumpkin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/somepumpkin)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2017, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028/42 "2017-04-17T21:21:32Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > There was a safety car after Vettel had pitted, but before Bottas and Hamilton had. So both Mercedeses came in to the pits for new tires. But there’s only one Mercedes pit box. What you’re supposed to do, apparently, is come in to the pits at your usual speed and wait behind your teammate until the box is clear, then pull into the box and complete your stop. > > But that’s not what Hamilton did. Daniel Ricciardo was right behind him on the way into the pits. Hamilton slowed on the pit access road to keep Ricciardo behind him. That delayed when Ricciardo would reach his pit, and gave Hamilton a better chance of coming out of the pits in front. So the penalty was for impeding Ricciardo. > > On the subject of penalties, did anything happen about Vettel lining up strangely for the start in China? He was pointed at an angle (to get to the clean side of the track, I assume) and his left tires were outside the box painted on the starting grid. I think I saw that it was being investigated, but I don’t remember the resolution. Thanks for clarifying that. I thought they were saying that it had something to do with that pit stop but i didn’t see where he did anything wrong by stacking-up like that. I didn’t realize he was being a jerk, again. 😛 I’ll have to look at my replay and see where he holds up DR. > [@dzeiger](#): > > No penalty, but Charlie Whiting apparently made an explicit point to say that going forward you must be fully within your pit box. > \ I just read this at the Autoweek site. “When such an anomaly exists, we decided to let Vettel go in this case,” said Salo. “It could have been a warning, but it’s better to have a more specific rule for these cases.” ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 3:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028/43 "2017-04-20T03:29:52Z")
Ferrari winning races. The universe is slowly coming back into alignment… ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [April 20, 2017, 3:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028/44 "2017-04-20T03:41:24Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > Buy out his contract and get him _off the air!_ > > Take Buxton with him. I like Hobbs, in a goofy old granpa sort of way. Buxton though, I’d pay good money to swing an axe at him. ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [April 21, 2017, 7:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028/45 "2017-04-21T19:00:13Z")
What do you guys have against Hobbs and Buxton? I know Hobbs hasn’t been in a race car in nearly 30 years; it would be nice to have a commentator who had more first-hand knowledge of modern race cars, but I think he does a pretty good job, even if he is a little predictable. I can see how Buxton’s energy level and manner might be annoying to some, but I’m always amazed at his encyclopedic knowledge of racing history, technology, and personalities. In fact, I often marvel at how all four of them seem to remember the details of practically every race ever run. It’s quite common to hear one of them say something like, “This incident is a carbon copy of the collision between Schumacher and Alonso at Spa in 1998.” (I’m making these specifics up, of course.) They all really do know an awful lot. Of the four of them, Leigh Diffey is the one I think is most expendable. He’s okay, and as I said, he remembers lots of things, and I don’t find him annoying. He’s just kinda _meh_. I much preferred Bob Varsha. I wish he were still on the air. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [April 26, 2017, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028/46 "2017-04-26T22:35:19Z")
> [@commasense](#): > > What do you guys have against Hobbs and Buxton? I know Hobbs hasn’t been in a race car in nearly 30 years; it would be nice to have a commentator who had more first-hand knowledge of modern race cars, but I think he does a pretty good job, even if he is a little predictable. > > I can see how Buxton’s energy level and manner might be annoying to some, but I’m always amazed at his encyclopedic knowledge of racing history, technology, and personalities. > > In fact, I often marvel at how all four of them seem to remember the details of practically every race ever run. It’s quite common to hear one of them say something like, “This incident is a carbon copy of the collision between Schumacher and Alonso at Spa in 1998.” (I’m making these specifics up, of course.) They all really do know an awful lot. > > Of the four of them, Leigh Diffey is the one I think is most expendable. He’s okay, and as I said, he remembers lots of things, and I don’t find him annoying. He’s just kinda _meh_. I much preferred Bob Varsha. I wish he were still on the air. I agree. Diffey is certainly meh. Varsha was way better. I watched an IMSA race from the mid 80’s on the youtube a while ago and saw a very young Bob Varsha interviewing an already very old Hobbs (who was driving a Porsche 962). ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Girlfriend](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.girlfriend/32/193_2.png) [@Dr.Girlfriend](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Girlfriend)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2017, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028/47 "2017-04-30T16:53:11Z")
Russia was not an exciting race but I was very happy with the outcome! About damn time… 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [April 30, 2017, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028/48 "2017-04-30T17:59:56Z")
> [@Dr.Girlfriend](#): > > Russia was not an exciting race but I was very happy with the outcome! About damn time… 🙂 I was expecting you would be the first poster after this race. Congrats! ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 4:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028/49 "2017-05-01T04:52:30Z")
[quote=“commasense, post:45, topic:778028”] What do you guys have against Hobbs… [/QUOTE=commasense] Okay, I’ll fess up. It’s a pet peeve, but I’ve got really good hearing and the “old man mush mouth lip smacking” when he isn’t talking positively sicks me the fuck out! I can not tolerate that sound at all. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 8:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028/50 "2017-05-01T08:38:45Z")
[quote=“Gatopescado, post:49, topic:778028”] > [@commasense](#): > > What do you guys have against Hobbs… > [/QUOTE=commasense] > > Okay, I’ll fess up. It’s a pet peeve, but I’ve got really good hearing and the “old man mush mouth lip smacking” when he isn’t talking positively sicks me the fuck out! > > I can not tolerate that sound at all. Oh, yeah, I know what you mean. But he was sick and not on the air during practice/qualy and I STILL heard s smacking. So either it is matchett, or I like to convince myself it is an issue with the mics. ---
**Author:** ![Ztransform](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/48db29/32.png) [@Ztransform](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ztransform)\ **Post date:** [May 1, 2017, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028/51 "2017-05-01T18:11:55Z")
Good going for Valtteri Bottas, I hope the Marshalls won’t be too busy picking up the toys thrown out of Hamilton’s pram 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Ztransform](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/48db29/32.png) [@Ztransform](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ztransform)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2017, 2:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028/52 "2017-05-10T02:02:39Z")
If you guys in America don’t like the local commentary, there is a way to get the British commentary by Martin Brundle who is not bad. [I think this site is a legal way to get it.](https://thevpn.guru/stream-kodi-f1-2017-live-free-online) ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2017, 9:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028/53 "2017-05-10T21:25:55Z")
Brazil had the best commentary ever. All you heard was the cars, and occasionally a guy would say some very brief important comment. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2017, 11:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028/54 "2017-05-10T23:41:09Z")
Barricello doing the grid walk is sad tho. Also, I don’t speak Portuguese. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [May 10, 2017, 11:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028/55 "2017-05-10T23:49:31Z")
Rubens was 12 years old when I watched races in Brazil! ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [May 11, 2017, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028/56 "2017-05-11T00:13:46Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > Rubens was 12 years old when I watched races in Brazil! Ha! :smack: I had accidentally downloaded Brazilian coverage of a race a few years ago, not too long after he retired. He did the grid walk and was certainly better than the fuckwit Buxton (probably because I couldn’t understand most of it (though he did speak english to the drivers who didn’t speak portugese)), but not as good as Brundle. Brundle is the only one on the entire grid who seems to enjoy the grid walk. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028/57 "2017-05-21T21:24:00Z")
Damn! Alonso just set a blistering qually for the 500 (231.3 mph). As of right now, with 4 more to run, he can fall no further than the second row, I think. 😃 Can you imagine if he stays on Pole? ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2017, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028/58 "2017-05-21T21:56:45Z")
5th, middle of row 2, right next to “Take-you-out” Sato. ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Girlfriend](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.girlfriend/32/193_2.png) [@Dr.Girlfriend](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Girlfriend)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2017, 12:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028/59 "2017-05-23T00:18:13Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > 5th, middle of row 2, right next to “Take-you-out” Sato. My ex had a great nickname for Sato, darned if I can remember what it is now. Anyways, great qualification for Alonso, I’ll be rooting hard for him on Sunday. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [May 27, 2017, 5:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028/60 "2017-05-27T17:59:54Z")
All Ferrari front row for Monaco! Kimi ahead of Vettel, and Lewis mired back on row 7. I don’t get much better than that for me. I wonder if the team will screw Kimi somehow, allowing Seb to win. That would blow. I can’t believe they would, though. Not at Monaco, surely. Not this early in the season. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028.md?page=4)