# Formula 1 2017

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Created:** [January 24, 2017, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028 "2017-01-24T13:47:48Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [May 27, 2017, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028/61 "2017-05-27T21:20:59Z")

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If Lewis gets his car fixed it should make for a very interesting race tomorrow.

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**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 2:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028/62 "2017-05-29T02:11:32Z")

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Well, that sucked for Kimi, but I have to believe that his post race demeanor would have been the same no matter what.

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**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028/63 "2017-05-29T09:28:03Z")

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That was a boring procession, not a race.

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**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 10:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028/64 "2017-05-29T10:54:50Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> That was a boring procession, not a race.

It was rather, It _looks_ wonderful but it relies on accidents and bad weather to provide the real excitement.  
Probably the best was Senna v Mansell in 1992 but even that is famous for the absence of an overtaking move.

Anyhow, I watched the Indy 500 and was glad to see Alonso do well, It wouldn’t have surprised if he’d won and I wasn’t surprised in the least to see him in the hunt in his first race. He’ll be back I suspect.

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**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028/65 "2017-05-29T13:14:46Z")

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> [@Dag\_Otto](#):
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> Also amusing is that while Honda is holding Alonso back in F1, Honda has a good chance at winning at the 500.

Honda was able to do both in the same race.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Girlfriend](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.girlfriend/32/193_2.png) [@Dr.Girlfriend](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Girlfriend)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 5:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028/66 "2017-05-29T17:37:39Z")

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> [@Quartz](#):
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> That was a boring procession, not a race.

Yes, yes it was. Glad Wehrlein is OK though, that was scary seeing his car tipped on the side like that.

I hope Alonso does come back to Indy. He talked after the race like he wanted to give it another shot.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028/67 "2017-05-29T19:09:52Z")

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> [@Dag\_Otto](#):
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> Well, that sucked for Kimi, but I have to believe that his post race demeanor would have been the same no matter what.

I missed the post race stuff. What did he have to say?

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**Author:** ![lisiate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f05b48/32.png) [@lisiate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lisiate)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2017, 1:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028/68 "2017-05-30T01:52:30Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> 5th, middle of row 2, right next to “Take-you-out” Sato.

I guess he’s “Take-you-out-for-a-Milk-cause-I’m-Indy-500-Champ” Sato now huh?

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**Author:** ![polar\_bear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ec9cab/32.png) [@polar\_bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/polar_bear)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2017, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028/69 "2017-05-30T07:10:03Z")

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Really boring. Except for the start I don’t think there was a single overtake. Just Kimi getting screwed with the tactics and Verstappen being sacrificed so Ricciardo could get the jump on Bottas.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [May 30, 2017, 9:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028/70 "2017-05-30T09:31:04Z")

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> [@polar\_bear](#):
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> Really boring. Except for the start I don’t think there was a single overtake. Just Kimi getting screwed with the tactics and Verstappen being sacrificed so Ricciardo could get the jump on Bottas.

The announcers (in the U.S. anyway) seemed to miss it, but Magnussen gained two positions on the start. He had to make two pit stops (I assume he had a puncture) and still finished 10th. Might have been an even better day for Haas without that flat tire.

The NBC crew did say quite a lot about the tires; took more than one lap to bring them up to temperature, and that the ultra-soft tires could have lasted the whole race if the regulations didn’t require a pit stop. I wonder if that’s a consequence of the wider tires this year. Last year’s tires were narrower, so they’d have a smaller contact patch with the track surface. This year’s cars aren’t any heavier that I know of. Seems like the new tires would be generating similar forces to last year’s, but spread over a larger area. Does that account for less wear, less heating, etc., and were the FIA and Pirelli expecting this?

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**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 2:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028/71 "2017-05-31T02:06:21Z")

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> [@Gatopescado](#):
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> I missed the post race stuff. What did he have to say?

[“It doesn’t feel awful good,” Raikkonen said, morosely. “It didn’t work out for me, that’s about as much as I can say right now. I got the bad end of the story. It’s still second place but it doesn’t count a lot in my books at least.”](http://www.telegraph.co.uk/formula-1/2017/05/28/monaco-grand-prix-2017-live-updates/)  
But to get the full effect, you need to read his words in the bubbly, enthusiastic, and upbeat manner that characterizes all of Kimi’s remarks 😃

He had a good reason to be pissed off. But pissed off or happy, he sounds about the same to me.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [May 31, 2017, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028/72 "2017-05-31T05:37:36Z")

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> [@Dag\_Otto](#):
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> He had a good reason to be pissed off. But pissed off or happy, he sounds about the same to me.

But his radio transmissions are fucking Gold! 😃

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**Author:** ![Dr.Girlfriend](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.girlfriend/32/193_2.png) [@Dr.Girlfriend](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Girlfriend)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2017, 5:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028/73 "2017-06-11T17:15:25Z")

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Fernando Alonso not ruling out running a full season in IndyCar:

> **[Alonso on doing a full IndyCar season: Why not?](https://www.espn.co.uk/f1/story/_/id/19606002/fernando-alonso-full-indycar-season-why-not)**
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> Fernando Alonso has refused to rule out a full season of IndyCar in future, replying, "Why not?" when asked about the possibility of a switch to the North American series.

I’d love to see him do it. At least he’d be competitive… unless his engine blows up.

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**Author:** ![madsircool](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/madsircool/32/3432_2.png) [@madsircool](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/madsircool)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2017, 7:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028/74 "2017-06-11T19:58:14Z")

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Patrick Stewart just drank out of Riccardos shoe. I might have to throw up.

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**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2017, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028/75 "2017-06-11T20:44:11Z")

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> [@Dr.Girlfriend](#):
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> I hope Alonso does come back to Indy. He talked after the race like he wanted to give it another shot.

My understanding is that Alonso has a particular ambition. He wants to follow in the tyre tracks of Graham Hill.

Hill is the only driver (to date) to have won an F1 world championship, the Indy 500 _and_ the Le Mans 24 Hours. (That is next weekend this year).

I doubt whether Alonso wants to copy Hill in dying in his own light plane less than a year after retiring as a race driver.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2017, 10:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028/76 "2017-06-11T22:08:47Z")

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> [@madsircool](#):
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> Patrick Stewart just drank out of Riccardos shoe. I might have to throw up.

Yeah, that’s just _nasty!_

I thought that race sucked. Why does Kimi have such shit luck? And that damn kid taking off Seb’s front wing. Phooey!

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028/77 "2017-06-12T22:25:29Z")

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I think Patrick Stewart was already drunk before getting on the podium.

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**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 10:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028/78 "2017-06-12T22:35:11Z")

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> [@snfaulkner](#):
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> I think Patrick Stewart was already drunk before getting on the podium.

So?

I was glad to see Canadian Stroll finish and get points. The kid’s only 18.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028/79 "2017-06-12T22:37:38Z")

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> [@Leaffan](#):
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> So?

I found it amusing.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Girlfriend](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.girlfriend/32/193_2.png) [@Dr.Girlfriend](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Girlfriend)\
**Post date:** [June 25, 2017, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2017/778028/80 "2017-06-25T17:12:07Z")

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Dammit, my DVR cut off right after Hamilton started whining about wanting Bottas to slow down. I know who was on the podium (raise your hand if you saw that coming… didn’t think so!), but did anything else exciting happen after that point?

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