# Formula 1 2018 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Created:** [February 28, 2018, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2018/809734 "2018-02-28T05:37:15Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2018, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2018/809734/41 "2018-03-28T15:56:23Z")
> [@dzeiger](#): > > I’ve seen reports that ESPN got the rights for free (or possibly for $1). > [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > these days ESPN is bleeding cash so that makes sense. NBCSN couldn’t cough up two bucks? ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2018, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2018/809734/42 "2018-03-28T20:14:31Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > I don’t think its very accurate to call Haas a “junior team” to Ferrari. They just buy engines. [Well that’s not very accurate either](http://www.bbc.com/sport/formula-one/43568043). > [@](#): > > Haas, owned by American businessman Gene Haas, are unique in buying as many parts from another team as the rules allow them - in this case Ferrari - and designing only the minimum required themselves - the monocoque and aerodynamic surfaces. > > **Everything else - the suspension, gearbox, engine, hydraulics, electrics and electronics - is bought off the shelf from Ferrari.** > > Other private teams tend to buy only engines from manufacturer teams. Force India go as far as buying the engine and gearbox from Mercedes but do everything else themselves. Per the rules they’re not a junior team but they also don’t have a typical customer team relationship. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [March 28, 2018, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2018/809734/43 "2018-03-28T22:55:44Z")
I’ve never been know for my accuracy outside of the darting world. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![gazpacho](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/6f9a4e/32.png) [@gazpacho](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gazpacho)\ **Post date:** [March 29, 2018, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2018/809734/44 "2018-03-29T16:34:48Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > NBCSN couldn’t cough up two bucks? NBC didn’t like the conditions related to digital streaming. F1 is trying to get its own digital streaming package together. I believe that NBC wanted exclusive US rights to streaming and F1 did not want to. ---
**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2018/809734/45 "2018-04-07T18:05:10Z")
Watching third practice. SKY has the track sound playing at the same volume as the announcers, and that’s not a good thing when the announcers are soft talkers. I’ll get used to the new coverage, but I’ll still bitch about it every so often. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2018/809734/46 "2018-04-07T18:54:15Z")
A perfect qualifying! 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Bijou\_Drains](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bijou_drains/32/2814_2.png) [@Bijou\_Drains](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bijou_Drains)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 6:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2018/809734/47 "2018-04-07T18:57:44Z")
Toro Rosso is a junior team to Red Bull right? Except they use Honda engines rather then Renault. ---
**Author:** ![polar\_bear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ec9cab/32.png) [@polar\_bear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/polar_bear)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 7:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2018/809734/48 "2018-04-07T19:08:51Z")
> [@Bijou\_Drains](#): > > Toro Rosso is a junior team to Red Bull right? Except they use Honda engines rather then Renault. correct, but there are more differences than just the engine. ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [April 7, 2018, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2018/809734/49 "2018-04-07T22:18:24Z")
Alonso to Toro Rosso in 2019 ---
**Author:** ![Dr.Girlfriend](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.girlfriend/32/193_2.png) [@Dr.Girlfriend](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Girlfriend)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2018, 5:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2018/809734/50 "2018-04-08T17:23:11Z")
Loved the lack of commercials this time around. Spoilering the rest for those who haven’t watched yet… [SPOILER] Bottas was SO CLOSE! Argh! I was worried Bottas and Vettel would crash into each other and give Hamilton the win. Nice job by Gasly, it was fun watching the Toro Rosso guys go nuts after the race. Bad day to be a Red Bull fan. [/SPOILER] ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2018, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2018/809734/51 "2018-04-08T17:44:15Z")
> [@Dr.Girlfriend](#): > > Loved the lack of commercials this time around. Spoilering the rest for those who haven’t watched yet… > > [SPOILER] Bottas was SO CLOSE! Argh! I was worried Bottas and Vettel would crash into each other and give Hamilton the win. > > Nice job by Gasly, it was fun watching the Toro Rosso guys go nuts after the race. > > Bad day to be a Red Bull fan. [/SPOILER] Was this Haas’s best finish ever? Nice to see the American team doing well, and fixing their pit stop issues from Australia. I was watching the gap behind Gasly; it grew, but not by much. ---
**Author:** ![Quartz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/quartz/32/267_2.png) [@Quartz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quartz)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2018, 6:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2018/809734/52 "2018-04-08T18:26:25Z")
Bottas doesn’t have what it takes. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 5:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2018/809734/53 "2018-04-10T05:04:33Z")
Kimi can’t buy a break, can he? ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [April 10, 2018, 5:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2018/809734/54 "2018-04-10T05:26:38Z")
He bought a broken leg for 50g’s. Too soon? ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [April 14, 2018, 6:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2018/809734/55 "2018-04-14T18:53:30Z")
Another Perfect Qually! ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2018, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2018/809734/56 "2018-04-15T14:31:08Z")
Complete bonehead move by Verstappen. I don’t think a 10-second penalty is nearly enough. The circumstances for the safety car were kind of interesting. Hartley and Gasly got together at the hairpin and left some debris on the track. A bit later there was a camera shot of a car hitting a big piece of that debris right on the racing line, but it was Hartley’s car that hit it. It was a full lap later; I’m curious how every other car got through that turn without hitting it. That also means it took at least one lap to decide to bring out the safety car. ---
**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2018, 3:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2018/809734/57 "2018-04-15T15:56:08Z")
I did think it was odd that it took so long to get the safety car, given the amount of debris in the hairpin. But when it did deploy, at least one pit crew was ready for it. Lesson learned from Monaco 2016, I suppose. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2018, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2018/809734/58 "2018-04-15T18:43:58Z")
> [@Dag\_Otto](#): > > I did think it was odd that it took so long to get the safety car, given the amount of debris in the hairpin. But when it did deploy, at least one pit crew was ready for it. Lesson learned from Monaco 2016, I suppose. After Hartley hit the big piece of debris there were a lot more little pieces, so in that sense the situation was getting worse. I never got a really good sense of which teams chose not to pit, and which teams couldn’t because they were past the pit entrance. In the interview with Toto Wolff after the race, it sounded like they chose not to, but I don’t know if that was for both drivers or just Hamilton. I also noticed that the new TV coverage in the states didn’t give a recap of the drivers’ or constructors’ points after the race. I wonder if ESPN just cuts off the telecast before they get to that. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2018, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2018/809734/59 "2018-04-15T19:18:32Z")
A couple other observations: I didn’t see a great replay of the Vettel-Alonso pass near the end. The commentators said Alonso was just following the racing line, but Vettel was clearly alongside him. Looked like he ran Vettel off the track to me. If anyone hears a decision from the stewards about that, could you post it here please? I didn’t see Ricciardo put his steering wheel back on after he got out of his car. Understandable under the circumstances, I suppose. I assume the penalty would be a fine, and not track position or time. ---
**Author:** ![dzeiger](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/46a35a/32.png) [@dzeiger](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dzeiger)\ **Post date:** [April 15, 2018, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2018/809734/60 "2018-04-15T19:38:20Z")
I didn’t fully understand the Haas strategy with the SC. Magnusson, sure, he had just pitted to mediums, leaving him out is understandable, but Grojean had gone from ultras to mediums many laps before, and there was at least one shot under green suggesting he had flatspotted them, but they left him out? And yeah, penalties need to be sorted out better–I saw one comment elsewhere that Perez had gotten a harsher penalty for lining up wrong in a formation lap than Verstappen got for spinning Vettel. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2018/809734.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2018/809734.md?page=4)