# Formula 1 2024 **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** racing-auto-boat\ **Created:** [January 3, 2024, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2024/995536 "2024-01-03T03:49:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2024, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2024/995536/81 "2024-05-06T14:53:34Z")
I quoted the stewards incorrectly (which explains why it didn’t match my understanding). I blame too much celebrating for Lando. To be alongside on the outside, the passing car’s front axle must at least be alongside the inside car’s FRONT axle, not rear. Which matches what I THOUGHT was the rule - if the inside car is ahead at the apex, they have the entire track on corner exit. [The Steward Document](https://www.fia.com/sites/default/files/decision-document/2024%20Miami%20Grand%20Prix%20-%20Infringement%20-%20Car%2020%20-%20Causing%20a%20collision.pdf) ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2024, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2024/995536/82 "2024-05-06T15:09:41Z")
Thanks for the link. > [@](#): > > Per the Driving Standards Guidelines, in order for Car 20 to be given room for an > overtaking attempt on the outside, Car 20 needed to have the front axle at least > alongside the front axle of the other car at the apex of Turn 2. > > It was clear that Car 20 did not have its front axle in that position such that it was > entitled to room in that corner. Further, if this is looked at purely as an overtaking on > the inside of Turn 3, Car 20 would also not have had the right to the corner, by the > standards for an inside overtake. > > Even if this was viewed as a sequence of corners or a chicane, the decision remains > the same. Per the guidelines, priority will be given to the first corner and if you do not > have the right to be given room, then you do not get the benefit for the next corner. That kind of reads like “whoever has their nose in front is entitled to the whole track through a corner, and anybody next to them can suck it.” Which, if that’s the rule they want to go with, is fine. Maybe I’m just conditioned by watching other racing series, where you don’t need front-axle-ahead-of-front-axle to be given room. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2024, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2024/995536/83 "2024-05-06T15:17:20Z")
Yeah, I’m pretty sure that’s a F1, or even single-seater, rule. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [May 6, 2024, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2024/995536/84 "2024-05-06T16:26:43Z")
Rules are all well and good, but the bottom line is if you slam the door and touch wheels, you might end up in the wall and out of the race, right or wrong according to the Stewards. This ain’t no sim. Yet. Being a Naive Simpleton, I expect a level of professionalism commensurate with the pinnacle of the sport. Guys like K Mag and Stroll should be back in Go-Karts if you ask me. Of course, damn near every driver over the last 30 years have had spectacular moments of Shit-Hookery. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2024, 12:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2024/995536/85 "2024-05-07T00:23:19Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > Rules are all well and good, but the bottom line is if you slam the door and touch wheels, you might end up in the wall and out of the race, right or wrong according to the Stewards. This ain’t no sim. Yet. Yeah, it’s a maxim I picked up riding motorcycles - would you rather be in the right or still alive? Sometimes you give up a little bit and survive to ride/drive/race another day. Smart move by Sargeant would have been to let the pinball by and waited for him to screw up elsewhere. All told, there was hopefully a long talk with Magnussen about his driving recently. He’s been dirty as hell this season. One-offs here and there when competing for championships is one thing - backmarkers wrecking each other or frontrunners(ish) is a whole different ball game. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [May 7, 2024, 12:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2024/995536/86 "2024-05-07T00:34:04Z")
> [@Chisquirrel](#): > > All told, there was hopefully a long talk with Magnussen about his driving recently Well, he’s now at 10 points on his super license. Two more and he’s insta banned for a race. > **["Not a good day again" admits Magnussen as penalty leaves him two points from...](https://www.racefans.net/2024/05/06/not-a-good-day-again-admits-magnussen-as-penalty-leaves-him-two-points-from-ban/)** > > Kevin Magnussen admitted he had another poor day after his collision with Logan Sargeant leaves him two penalty points away from a ban. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2024, 4:02am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2024/995536/87 "2024-05-17T04:02:53Z")
I looked at that picture and had to make sure I didn’t open the college football thread. I swore that was a football player walking out of the Oregon endzone. ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2024, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2024/995536/88 "2024-05-17T15:14:36Z")
Now that you’ve said it, I can’t see anything else. And we’re on to Imola. I don’t remember watching an F1 race here because of the flooding last year, but I definitely caught a good chunk of the 6 Hours of Imola last month. Ferrari have apparently brought their 2.0 car, Red Bull, Mercedes, and Aston Martin all appear to have brought significant upgrade packages. FP1 saw LeClerc take fastest lap, and currently in FP2, it’s the same. Hopefully a good weekend in the making. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2024, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2024/995536/89 "2024-05-17T17:07:08Z")
Imola has always been a favorite of mine. Lots of good races back in the day. It seems a little cramped for the modern cars, however. There are probably lots of changes that I’m ignorant of however. Looking forward to the practice sessions, 'cause its gonna be too hot to do shit at home. ---
**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2024, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2024/995536/90 "2024-05-17T17:16:45Z")
The upgrade on the Red Bull looks like it has made an undrivable car. They’ll probably sort it though… ---
**Author:** ![steronz](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steronz/32/11765_2.png) [@steronz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/steronz)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2024, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2024/995536/91 "2024-05-17T17:24:47Z")
Newey making some “improvements” on his way out the door? ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [May 17, 2024, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2024/995536/92 "2024-05-17T20:47:43Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > Imola has always been a favorite of mine. Lots of good races back in the day. It seems a little cramped for the modern cars, however. There are probably lots of changes that I’m ignorant of however. Looking forward to the practice sessions, 'cause its gonna be too hot to do shit at home. I could have sworn commentators said something about a DRS zone change, but I can’t find anything about it now. > [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](#): > > The upgrade on the Red Bull looks like it has made an undrivable car. They’ll probably sort it though… The first part of practice, Verstappen was happy and competitive with the Ferraris on the mediums. Once they went to the softs, it was just…bad. Even bailing out of a hot lap because of Hamilton in the way, it just never looked solid. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [May 19, 2024, 8:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2024/995536/93 "2024-05-19T20:56:15Z")
You know, as soon as the idiot announcers proclaimed a “100% chance of a Safety Car”, I thought, _“Well, that’s about the stupidest thing I’ve ever heard”…_ ---
**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\ **Post date:** [May 20, 2024, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2024/995536/94 "2024-05-20T19:34:06Z")
The only thing I can say is that I wish the race was about three laps longer. It was just getting exciting up front when the checkered flag waved. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [May 21, 2024, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2024/995536/95 "2024-05-21T05:03:52Z")
.7 on the last lap, but I think Max had him handled. Would have been fun, maybe. I can think of a hundred races that would have been better if they’da gone another couple laps. ---
**Author:** ![commasense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/commasense/32/3017_2.png) [@commasense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/commasense)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2024, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2024/995536/96 "2024-05-22T19:53:14Z")
It was just the new guy, [Harry Benjamin](https://au.motorsport.com/f1/news/who-are-f1-sky-sports-commentators-espn-2024/10580192/). No one else repeated it. But he said it several times, apparently believing that just because something has happened at all previous races that means it has to happen every time. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2024, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2024/995536/97 "2024-05-22T21:39:11Z")
The announcing was so terrible, it almost made me miss Motor-Mouth Croft. I seriously cannot listen to that Karun guy. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [May 22, 2024, 10:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2024/995536/98 "2024-05-22T22:46:20Z")
Karun is still miles better than that Will Buxton prick that FoxSports forced on us. And of course, all of the above are miles better than Danica. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [May 23, 2024, 1:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2024/995536/99 "2024-05-23T01:43:04Z")
I’m not a Fanica, but I can easily tune her out. She doesn’t have a grating accent or weird vocal thing going. As long as I don’t have to look at her horrible fashion choices. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [May 26, 2024, 9:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2024/995536/100 "2024-05-26T21:10:22Z")
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