# Formula 1 2024

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2024/995536>\
**Category:** The Game Room\
**Tags:** racing-auto-boat\
**Created:** [January 3, 2024, 3:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2024/995536 "2024-01-03T03:49:27Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2024, 12:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2024/995536/161 "2024-07-01T00:26:34Z")

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You’re easy.

How do you feel about the Leclerc fiasco?

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2024, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2024/995536/162 "2024-07-01T00:30:05Z")

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I don’t even know what the hell they were doing, there. I’m just hoping for Carlos to keep piling up points and parlay that into a real seat for next year, some how. I really think he is getting a Royal Butt-Ram.

I’m just gonna say before I go out to tend my garden and drink excessively, that display of unprofessionalism is really goddamn sad. Max is gonna win the championship. Would it really have killed him to run a clean race and take second? C’mon, Man! Give us a show. This is shades of the Prost/Senna bullshit from years ago. A dark day for the sport.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2024, 12:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2024/995536/163 "2024-07-01T00:48:00Z")

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You deserve your excessive drinks, sir. Cheers!

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2024, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2024/995536/164 "2024-07-01T02:15:18Z")

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The team principal of McLaren, Andrea Stella, pointed out that this is just a replay of Verstappen in 2021. Stewards let his bullshit slide and slide and slide and then he’s driving 50 feet off the track to back out Hamilton and ending up on his roof in Monza.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2024, 2:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2024/995536/165 "2024-07-01T02:22:18Z")

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This has nothin’ to do with Deserve…

BANG!

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2024, 4:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2024/995536/166 "2024-07-01T04:21:07Z")

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It was said at some point over the weekend that the track was modified so that the gravel traps in some corners were modified to be exactly 2 meters from the white line defining the edge of the track. That way, it was obvious when a car exceeded the limit, and it wasn’t to their advantage to do so, anyway. I like that; I’ve long thought that the lines were rather farcical with the cars going outside them so often.

However, does this mean we’re locked in to two-meter-wide cars for the foreseeable future? I was sort of hoping that the next rule changes would start shrinking the cars down a bit. If the cars slim down to 1.8 meters, how hard would it be for the Red Bull Ring to cut that buffer strip and bring the gravel 20 cm closer to the track?

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**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2024, 5:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2024/995536/167 "2024-07-01T05:03:02Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> However, does this mean we’re locked in to two-meter-wide cars for the foreseeable future?

Didn’t they mention that the the gravel was temporary due to the track also running MotoGP? So I guess they add and remove the gravel strips as needed, so altering the position shouldn’t be to much trouble.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2024, 5:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2024/995536/168 "2024-07-01T05:20:09Z")

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Tracks are easily modified for the event.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2024, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2024/995536/169 "2024-07-01T05:31:15Z")

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> [@Dag\_Otto](#):
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> Didn’t they mention that the the gravel was temporary due to the track also running MotoGP?

I did not hear that. Is all the gravel removed for motorcycle races? What goes in its place?

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**Author:** ![Chisquirrel](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6bbea6/32.png) [@Chisquirrel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chisquirrel)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2024, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2024/995536/170 "2024-07-01T14:23:34Z")

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They’ll replace it with concrete or asphalt. They have six weeks, and the pits aren’t that big.

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**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2024, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2024/995536/171 "2024-07-01T18:43:12Z")

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> [@Robot\_Arm](#):
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> However, does this mean we’re locked in to two-meter-wide cars for the foreseeable future?

From 2026 the cars will be 1.9m wide.

> **[FIA unveils Formula 1 regulations for 2026 and beyond](https://www.formula1.com/en/latest/article/fia-unveils-formula-1-regulations-for-2026-and-beyond-featuring-more-agile.75qJiYOHXgeJqsVQtDr2UB)**
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> Formula 1’s governing body the FIA has unveiled the “agile, competitive, safer and more sustainable” set of regulations that will define the sport from 2026 and beyond.

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2024, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2024/995536/172 "2024-07-01T19:16:10Z")

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Thanks. 10cm doesn’t seem like much, but it is 5% thinner than the current spec. I skimmed the article, but didn’t see if the length had changed.

I wonder what effect it will have on lap times and passing.

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**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\
**Post date:** [July 1, 2024, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2024/995536/173 "2024-07-01T20:20:59Z")

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> In a bid to create a more agile racing machine, the maximum wheelbase has been reduced by 200mm to 3400mm while the width has been cut by 100mm to 1900mm.
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> Weight has been shaved off too, with the 2026 cars set to have a minimum weight of 768kg, down 30kg on their counterparts from 2022.
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> The FIA also say that downforce has been reduced by 30% and drag by 55%.
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> Pirelli’s 18-inch wheel size introduced in 2022 will remain, however the width of the 2026-spec front tyres has been reduced by 25mm and the rears by 30mm compared to the previous generation of cars.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2024, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2024/995536/174 "2024-07-06T02:37:31Z")

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Good news!

[https://thespun.com/formula-1/danica-patrick-taking-break-from-formula-1-broadcast-gig](https://thespun.com/formula-1/danica-patrick-taking-break-from-formula-1-broadcast-gig)

My favorite part:

"Another fan said, “It’ll be great to get a break from your mundane generic comments.” "

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [July 6, 2024, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2024/995536/175 "2024-07-06T20:20:23Z")

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Verstappen looking ordinary this weekend for the first time in a long time. And not incidentally, there are three Brits in the first three grid spots.

I can’t help wondering if Lewis is leaving Mercedes for Ferrari at just the wrong moment.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2024, 2:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2024/995536/176 "2024-07-07T02:51:39Z")

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To be fair, he had floor damage. But whatever the reason, I’m happy for George and everyone in the top 3.

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**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2024, 3:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2024/995536/177 "2024-07-07T15:28:58Z")

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Fan-fucking-tastic race! Beginning to end it was edge of the seat stuff. Even if Max had won, I wouldn’t even have been mad.

Im curious if Hamilton would have been better off giving lando drs at the end. But I guess it didn’t matter.

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**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2024, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2024/995536/178 "2024-07-07T16:35:57Z")

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Fantastic race. Red Bull never seem to ever get the strategy wrong do they? This time it wasn’t enough.

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2024, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2024/995536/179 "2024-07-07T23:31:10Z")

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_Anytime_ is the Right Time to driver for Ferrari. 😉

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**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\
**Post date:** [July 7, 2024, 11:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-2024/995536/180 "2024-07-07T23:37:48Z")

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> [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](#):
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> Red Bull never seem to ever get the strategy wrong do they?

Well… They did just extend Perez’s contract! 😆

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