# Formula 1 Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** racing-auto-boat\ **Created:** [July 6, 2020, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544 "2020-07-06T22:39:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 12
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2021, 1:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544/221 "2021-03-31T13:03:40Z")
> [@ISiddiqui](#): > > It seems problematic that they let Hamilton do it, shaving seconds off, for 38 laps but then when someone else said, let’s give it a go, they decided to stop it for everyone. Hamilton undeniably got an advantage from doing that. So I see a BIG problem with that. I think Hamilton was being warned about it before RB enquired but in any case I don’t see what the problem is. Anyone could have done it and then everyone was told they could not. There wasn’t a point in the race where Hamilton was getting an advantage that was denied to others. Drivers seek to squeeze out every last 1/100th they can until told otherwise. They aren’t known for being shy and retiring with such edge decisions. Plus, you can’t just say that he did it for x laps and gained y each time so actually gained (xy) seconds. Races don’t work like that. There is also a case to be made that running wide may not have been the best strategy for retaining tyre life (which was as much of a part of the Merc strategy as pumping out 10/10ths laps.) ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2021, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544/222 "2021-03-31T13:10:27Z")
> [@Novelty\_Bobble](#): > > Anyone could have done it and then everyone was told they could not. There wasn’t a point in the race where Hamilton was getting an advantage that was denied to others. It seems to me that allowing Hamilton to do it for so long and then clamping down when anyone else did so appears to me that not anyone could have done it. Perhaps RBR should have violated track limits earlier to force the issue, but it seems to me that Hamilton got an advantage that the FIA stopped anyone else from getting after anyone else tried. Hamilton himself obviously thought he was gaining an advantage, as he kept doing it, and when it was told to stop it he was incredulous on the radio. Saying he’s been doing it all race. To me that’s a big problem with fairness. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [March 31, 2021, 1:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544/223 "2021-03-31T13:51:13Z")
> [@ISiddiqui](#): > > To me that’s a big problem with fairness. Well I’m not sure it rises to the level of “big” problem but sure, clarity from the off would be better. To be honest, F1 hardly has a stellar track record when it comes to cutting Hamilton any slack so if they were being generous to him it’d be a change. (I don’t think he needs any generosity of course) ---
**Author:** ![stuccosuperstar2020](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@stuccosuperstar2020](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stuccosuperstar2020)\ **Post date:** [April 1, 2021, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544/224 "2021-04-01T07:58:24Z")
Interesting comments about the ride buying. This is a tradition as old as Formula One itself. One of the fascinating aspects of F1 in its early years was to be a sport of the rich and royalty, an extremely and often fatal pastime of the well-to-do. I think it wasn’t until the mid 60s when more and more teams were investing more and more money and wanted more professional drivers handling their machines. But obviously it still exists. Even in NASCAR, now recently retired Paul Menard, part of the family that owns Menard’s, bought a seat. I’m sure there’s more. ---
**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544/225 "2021-04-03T03:46:08Z")
No mention of Tsunoda yet? Pretty clear from Bahrain that he’s not afraid to race hard. It will be interesting to see how he does in the next few races. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 7:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544/226 "2021-04-03T07:38:29Z")
I agree, he has a lot to commend him, he could be immense fun. There are quite a few young guys in there this year who could give us a lot of entertaintment if they are able to bump shoulders. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2021, 7:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544/227 "2021-04-03T07:54:24Z")
I think he’s in the best position of all the rookies. AT is a legitimate midfield contender this year. Haas is, sadly, straight up dog vomit. ---
**Author:** ![stuccosuperstar2020](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9de0a6/32.png) [@stuccosuperstar2020](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/stuccosuperstar2020)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 9:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544/228 "2021-04-08T09:06:48Z")
Any thoughts on this weekends race at Imola? ---
**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 9:11am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544/229 "2021-04-08T09:11:48Z")
I thought it was next weekend? ---
**Author:** ![MHaye](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/bbe5ce/32.png) [@MHaye](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MHaye)\ **Post date:** [April 8, 2021, 10:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544/230 "2021-04-08T10:58:02Z")
It is next weekend. The Chinese Grand Prix was scheduled for this weekend, but that has been cancelled. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 10:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544/231 "2021-04-16T10:39:44Z")
The Emilia Romagna Grand Prix at Imola is this weekend (finally!). Some of the burning questions: - Will Verstappen take P1? - Can Hamilton stick to the track limits? - How well will Ferrari do in their home race? - How many laps before Mazepin spins out? ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [April 16, 2021, 1:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544/232 "2021-04-16T13:32:01Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > How many laps before Mazepin spins out? Well he’s already done so in FP1, so he’s in prime form! ---
**Author:** ![Mark\_Finn](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/34f0e0/32.png) [@Mark\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mark_Finn)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2021, 12:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544/233 "2021-04-17T12:08:04Z")
We’ll know within the next few days whether a Montreal GP will take place in early June. The city is prepared to let it run - but with no spectators. In that case, the promoter is asking for at least $6 million to cover his losses. Apparently - Istanbul is ready to step in if a decision can’t be reached. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544/234 "2021-04-18T16:30:23Z")
DAMMIT!! I forgot to verify my DVR was set up on the right time/channel. Missed the race! FIRST ONE IN OVER 30 YEARS!!! Sounds like it was a good one (for a change). No reruns that I can find. DAMMIT!! ---
**Author:** ![Sicks\_Ate](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/258eb7/32.png) [@Sicks\_Ate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sicks_Ate)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544/235 "2021-04-18T18:15:37Z")
I think if you wanted to sign up for an account on F1 TV, you can watch the race in replay. ---
**Author:** ![Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fiendish_astronaut/32/3295_2.png) [@Fiendish\_Astronaut](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fiendish_Astronaut)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 7:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544/236 "2021-04-18T19:07:27Z")
If you had a VPN you could probably find the race highlights on All4 - which is the VOD service of the channel which shows the free-to-air highlights on the UK. It’s on air now though so might be an hour or two before it becomes available to stream. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 10:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544/237 "2021-04-18T22:48:32Z")
I watch em all on demand on the ESPN app on my xbox. I’d bet you can just go to [espn.com](http://espn.com) and watch it. Though you’d have to sign in with your cable provider info, if you know it. ---
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2021, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544/238 "2021-04-18T23:47:02Z")
That was quite a race. To answer the questions I posed above: - Will Verstappen take P1? Yes! - Can Hamilton stick to the track limits? No! But neither, it seems, could anyone else (except see below). - How well will Ferrari do in their home race? P4 and P5 – pretty good! - How many laps before Mazepin spins out? In a race where almost everyone spun off, if not out, I did not actually see Mazepin spin once. Biggest incident is, of course, Bottas and Russell’s collision, causing the race to be red flagged: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/vjdwQDXxrfY/maxresdefault.jpg "Bottas & Russell Collide at Imola | 2021 Emilia Romagna Grand Prix") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vjdwQDXxrfY) Russell claims that Bottas twitched as he was coming alongside, causing him to swing wide onto the wet grass, which caused his overcorrection right into Bottas’ car. Bottas claims he did no such thing and was simply sticking to the dry part of the track. I, frankly, couldn’t see any such twitching, but then I don’t have the visual acuity of an F1 driver. What say you? ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2021, 2:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544/239 "2021-04-19T02:21:04Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > I, frankly, couldn’t see any such twitching, but then I don’t have the visual acuity of an F1 driver. What say you? I didn’t get to see it! 30 frakin’ yars, down the drain! This really bothers me. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [April 19, 2021, 5:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544/240 "2021-04-19T05:58:17Z")
> [@Terminus\_Est](#): > > How many laps before Mazepin spins out? > In a race where almost everyone spun off, if not out, I did not actually see Mazepin spin once. Pretty sure he spun later in the race after the restart. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544.md?page=11) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544.md?page=13)