# Formula 1 Thread **URL:** \ **Category:** The Game Room\ **Tags:** racing-auto-boat\ **Created:** [July 6, 2020, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544 "2020-07-06T22:39:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 19
**Author:** ![Terminus\_Est](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terminus_est/32/3087_2.png) [@Terminus\_Est](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Terminus_Est)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544/361 "2021-09-02T04:15:47Z")
Kimi Raikkonen has announced his retirement from F1 at the end of the season. > **[Raikkonen will retire from F1 at the end of 2021 - The Race](https://the-race.com/formula-1/raikkonen-will-retire-from-f1-at-the-end-of-2021/)** > > Alfa Romeo driver Kimi Raikkonen, the 2007 Formula 1 champion, will retire from the championship at the end of the 2021 season ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 6:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544/362 "2021-09-02T06:20:19Z")
Not only that, but Russell is expected to go to Mercedes, bottas to sauber, albon back in the game at Williams, and giovinazzi getting shit canned from f1 altogether… > **[Albon & De Vries in, Giovinazzi out after Russell-to-Mercedes · RaceFans](https://www.racefans.net/2021/08/31/albon-and-de-vries-to-gain-f1-seats-from-russells-mercedes-move-giovinazzi-loses-out/)** > > Alexander Albon is expected to take George Russell's place at Williams, while Nyck de Vries will replace Antonio Giovinazzi at Alfa Romeo. ---
**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\ **Post date:** [September 2, 2021, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544/363 "2021-09-02T15:29:15Z")
Giovinazzi is likely to stay in F1 as Ferrari’s reserve/test driver. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2021, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544/364 "2021-09-03T19:36:15Z")
Not a fan of Circuit Zandvoort. Seems too narrow, cramped and short. I predict a disaster of a race this Sunday. Does not seem fit for modern F1 cars. I think there is a reason they shit-canned it in the 80’s. Practice was a waste of time today. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2021, 8:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544/365 "2021-09-03T20:43:34Z")
I like the circuit because it looks fun as hell to drive around. But yeah, as far as actually racing, I too predict either lots of carnage from failed overtakes. Which can be its own fun, assuming nobody gets hurt. ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [September 3, 2021, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544/366 "2021-09-03T21:57:04Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > I like the circuit because it looks fun as hell to drive around Oh, Hell Yeah! In a shifter kart or maybe that Pace Car. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [September 5, 2021, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544/367 "2021-09-05T14:37:53Z")
Surprisingly no carnage at all! Not super exciting, but there was definitely several interesting chess matches going on. A fun looking track though. Almost like a skate park. Especially turn 3. I won’t mind if they come back next year. ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [September 6, 2021, 3:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544/368 "2021-09-06T03:19:10Z")
At the end of the race, when they were talking about Max Verstappen’s nationality, how could they resist making a “My Old Man’s a Dutchman” joke? ---
**Author:** ![Dag\_Otto](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/439d5e/32.png) [@Dag\_Otto](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dag_Otto)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2021, 3:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544/369 "2021-09-08T03:14:36Z")
I’m disappointed Bottas did just say fuck it and take fastest lap. If you don’t want him taking fastest lap, don’t give him the tires to do so. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2021, 4:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544/370 "2021-09-08T16:25:27Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > Not only that, but Russell is expected to go to Mercedes, bottas to sauber, albon back in the game at Williams, and giovinazzi getting shit canned from f1 altogether… This has all so far come to pass, aside from Giovinazzi. Though there is some news that Zhou’s sponsor is offering 30mil Euros for Gio’s seat. ---
**Author:** ![Manduck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/manduck/32/256_2.png) [@Manduck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Manduck)\ **Post date:** [September 8, 2021, 6:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544/371 "2021-09-08T18:11:55Z")
> [@Dag\_Otto](#): > > I’m disappointed Bottas did just say fuck it and take fastest lap. If you don’t want him taking fastest lap, don’t give him the tires to do so. I’m sure they had Bottas stop for tires so that Hamilton could stop for tires without falling behind him. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2021, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544/372 "2021-09-12T13:48:43Z")
That crash was on Lewis. Again. Max was alongside and Lewis tried to pinch him in the first chicane. Thank God for the halo. Lewis would be in a lot of trouble without it. ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2021, 2:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544/373 "2021-09-12T14:31:44Z")
Great race! I love seeing Riccardio win again! ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2021, 2:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544/374 "2021-09-12T14:52:01Z")
I’m voting “racing incident” ---
**Author:** ![snfaulkner](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/snfaulkner/32/433_2.png) [@snfaulkner](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/snfaulkner)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2021, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544/375 "2021-09-12T15:12:59Z")
Best line from Riccardio during the post race interview…“I hafta go…” ---
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2021, 5:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544/376 "2021-09-12T17:24:58Z")
It seemed to me that Bottas did just about everything you’d want a number two driver to do during his time at Mercedes. Was it the team’s choice to let him go, or did Bottas want to go to another team where he could be the lead driver? ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2021, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544/377 "2021-09-12T18:09:35Z")
> [@Robot\_Arm](#): > > It seemed to me… Yeah, agree. I don’t think Mercedes has done right by Bottas, ever. I suspect they hired Russel and pushed out Bottas hoping they can have a “Rosberg/Hamilton” dynamic, but you gotta wonder if Russel realizes he’s just been hired as a Doormat. Because when it comes down to it, he’ll be #2. But Lewis can’t drive forever, so there’s that, too. Oh well. None of them drive Ferraris, so I don’t give a crap. 😉 As far as The Crash, Hamilton in the Gravel = As Good as a Win! ---
**Author:** ![Gatopescado](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gatopescado/32/5711_2.png) [@Gatopescado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gatopescado)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2021, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544/378 "2021-09-12T18:27:02Z")
> [@snfaulkner](#): > > I love seeing Riccardio win again! But that shoe thing is pretty repulsive. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2021, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544/379 "2021-09-12T19:59:04Z")
> [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](#): > > That crash was on Lewis. Again. Max was alongside and Lewis tried to pinch him in the first chicane. Lewis had the line and Max was never in front. There was no requirement on Lewis to yield but Max was betting he would (and his comments after the race suggested as much). I suspect the stewards will decide “racing incident” but if any blame gets attached it’ll be more for Max than Lewis. Incidentally, extremely poor form by Max not to even check that Lewis was OK. ---
**Author:** ![Novelty\_Bobble](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/a3d4f5/32.png) [@Novelty\_Bobble](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Novelty_Bobble)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2021, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544/380 "2021-09-12T20:01:39Z")
> [@Gatopescado](#): > > Because when it comes down to it, he’ll be #2. Mercedes have never had a #2 driver. Any review of previous seasons would tell you that. Plenty of Lewis’s partners have had to play a #2 role at the tail end of the seasons but that’s not the same thing. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544.md?page=18) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/formula-1-thread/914544.md?page=20)