# Fornicate the Democrats for voting down the public option **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [September 29, 2009, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fornicate-the-democrats-for-voting-down-the-public-option/512028 "2009-09-29T20:51:28Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 8:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fornicate-the-democrats-for-voting-down-the-public-option/512028/1 "2009-09-29T20:51:28Z")
Well, the Democratic Party proved once again that they truly are pussies. Five of them on the Senate Finance Committee sided with the Republicans and voted against the public option. The final vote was 15-8. > **[Senate Panel Rejects Divisive 'Public Option'](https://www.npr.org/2009/09/29/113301907/senate-panel-rejects-divisive-public-option)** > > The Senate Finance Committee voted down two attempts by liberal Democrats to include a government-run insurance option as part of its health care legislation. Democratic Chairman Max Baucus joined all 10 panel Republicans to defeat the amendments. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fornicate-the-democrats-for-voting-down-the-public-option/512028/2 "2009-09-29T21:27:16Z")
No _actual_ Democrat voted against Rockefeller’s ammendment. Only Republicans and senators who lie about their actual political affiliation voted against it. ---
**Author:** ![Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aji_de_gallina/32/260_2.png) [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aji_de_Gallina)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 9:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fornicate-the-democrats-for-voting-down-the-public-option/512028/3 "2009-09-29T21:32:24Z")
> [@Squink](#): > > No _actual_ Democrat voted against Rockefeller’s ammendment. > Only Republicans and senators who lie about their actual political affiliation voted against it. You win. Close this thread. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fornicate-the-democrats-for-voting-down-the-public-option/512028/4 "2009-09-29T21:35:51Z")
> [@Squink](#): > > No _actual_ Democrat voted against Rockefeller’s ammendment. > Only Republicans and senators who lie about their actual political affiliation voted against it. Och, tis certain cold in Glasgow. ---
**Author:** ![Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/d9b06d/32.png) [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ichini_Sanshigo)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 9:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fornicate-the-democrats-for-voting-down-the-public-option/512028/5 "2009-09-29T21:38:04Z")
So basically, we’re not reforming health care after all. ---
**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 9:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fornicate-the-democrats-for-voting-down-the-public-option/512028/6 "2009-09-29T21:39:08Z")
You see what’s happening, don’t you? The Republicans and spineless Democrats will oppose any fundamental change in health care, and then when nothing improves, they’ll blame Obama for it’s failure. :mad: ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 9:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fornicate-the-democrats-for-voting-down-the-public-option/512028/7 "2009-09-29T21:41:13Z")
I’d really like to see a comprehensive analysis of Senators and Representatives’s views on public option and money donated to their campaign by insurance lobbyists. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 9:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fornicate-the-democrats-for-voting-down-the-public-option/512028/8 "2009-09-29T21:44:48Z")
> [@Ichini\_Sanshigo](#): > > So basically, we’re not reforming health care after all. Yes we are. We’re just not going to have a public option. Reforming health care and having a public option aren’t synonymous. ---
**Author:** ![Bricker](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/977dab/32.png) [@Bricker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bricker)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fornicate-the-democrats-for-voting-down-the-public-option/512028/9 "2009-09-29T22:26:14Z")
This is Bush’s fault, right? Or Karl Rove. ---
**Author:** ![Euphonious\_Polemic](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/euphonious_polemic/32/3002_2.png) [@Euphonious\_Polemic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Euphonious_Polemic)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 10:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fornicate-the-democrats-for-voting-down-the-public-option/512028/10 "2009-09-29T22:39:53Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > This is Bush’s fault, right? Or Karl Rove. You did read the OP that blamed Democrats, right? Scroll up to the top. I’ll wait. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fornicate-the-democrats-for-voting-down-the-public-option/512028/11 "2009-09-29T22:50:29Z")
> [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > Yes we are. We’re just not going to have a public option. This is not at all certain at this point. The senate must reconcile its final bill with the house’s final bill. The committee that does that might well include the house’s public option. Then we’ll see if the DINO’s have the balls to vote against it when it truly matters. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 10:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fornicate-the-democrats-for-voting-down-the-public-option/512028/12 "2009-09-29T22:53:49Z")
> [@Captain\_Amazing](#): > > Och, tis certain cold in Glasgow. You misunderstand. If their position wins the day, there’ll be Democrats looking to run against them next time they’re up for election. I’ve already written my bluedog senator and explained this to him. ---
**Author:** ![Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aji_de_gallina/32/260_2.png) [@Aji\_de\_Gallina](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Aji_de_Gallina)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fornicate-the-democrats-for-voting-down-the-public-option/512028/13 "2009-09-29T22:54:32Z")
> [@Bricker](#): > > This is Bush’s fault, right? Or Karl Rove. **Bricker** , you troll, how can you wirte that! We all know it’s Cheney you dumbass. But, seriously, as much as the UHC and public option plans are not to my liking (I’m not an American so it’s only philosiphical), Barry’s gotta start kicking some Democrat ass because, as \*\*Skammer \*\*said, he’s gonna take the blame. ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 11:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fornicate-the-democrats-for-voting-down-the-public-option/512028/14 "2009-09-29T23:06:40Z")
> [@Squink](#): > > You misunderstand. If their position wins the day, there’ll be Democrats looking to run against them next time they’re up for election. > I’ve already written my bluedog senator and explained this to him. I misunderstood you? You really weren’t claiming that the people who voted against the Rockefeller amendment weren’t actual Democrats? ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 11:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fornicate-the-democrats-for-voting-down-the-public-option/512028/15 "2009-09-29T23:10:03Z")
Don’t fornicate with them, better their descendants be cut off. Defenestrate those who behave this way–that’s a more apt curse. ---
**Author:** ![hobscrk777](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/a6a055/32.png) [@hobscrk777](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hobscrk777)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fornicate-the-democrats-for-voting-down-the-public-option/512028/16 "2009-09-29T23:15:52Z")
> [@Enderw24](#): > > I’d really like to see a comprehensive analysis of Senators and Representatives’s views on public option and money donated to their campaign by insurance lobbyists. [Here’s](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-blumenthal/senate-finance-committee_b_222577.html) what you’re looking for, if only partially. Scroll down until you get to the table. ---
**Author:** ![aldiboronti](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9fc348/32.png) [@aldiboronti](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aldiboronti)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fornicate-the-democrats-for-voting-down-the-public-option/512028/17 "2009-09-29T23:25:42Z")
Democrat Senators actually listening to their constituents? My God, whatever next! ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/ccd318/32.png) [@Paul\_in\_Qatar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_in_Qatar)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 11:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fornicate-the-democrats-for-voting-down-the-public-option/512028/18 "2009-09-29T23:31:55Z")
This is not good. ---
**Author:** ![Enderw24](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ba9def/32.png) [@Enderw24](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Enderw24)\ **Post date:** [September 29, 2009, 11:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fornicate-the-democrats-for-voting-down-the-public-option/512028/19 "2009-09-29T23:47:11Z")
> [@hobscrk777](#): > > [Here’s](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/paul-blumenthal/senate-finance-committee_b_222577.html) what you’re looking for, if only partially. Scroll down until you get to the table. It’s a good start. Thanks. I’ll search out some more info. ---
**Author:** ![Blalron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/35a633/32.png) [@Blalron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Blalron)\ **Post date:** [September 30, 2009, 12:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fornicate-the-democrats-for-voting-down-the-public-option/512028/20 "2009-09-30T00:20:00Z")
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