# Found a good american patriotic song that doesn't glorify war **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 9, 2009, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-a-good-american-patriotic-song-that-doesnt-glorify-war/509437 "2009-09-09T16:43:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Quintas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/48db29/32.png) [@Quintas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quintas)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-a-good-american-patriotic-song-that-doesnt-glorify-war/509437/1 "2009-09-09T16:43:06Z")
I’ve always found our National Anthem a bit militaristic. This is a fantastic alternative. What do you guys think? [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8GaO6L9WpA](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l8GaO6L9WpA) ---
**Author:** ![Mosier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ea924/32.png) [@Mosier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mosier)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-a-good-american-patriotic-song-that-doesnt-glorify-war/509437/2 "2009-09-09T16:49:19Z")
Don’t like it at all. Can’t say why, exactly, but i like literally all of the “traditional” patriotic American songs better. ---
**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 4:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-a-good-american-patriotic-song-that-doesnt-glorify-war/509437/3 "2009-09-09T16:51:37Z")
What, “America the Beautiful” doesn’t count? ---
**Author:** ![wierdaaron](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/eada6e/32.png) [@wierdaaron](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wierdaaron)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 5:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-a-good-american-patriotic-song-that-doesnt-glorify-war/509437/4 "2009-09-09T17:04:27Z")
I can’t remember if this song was intended as a joke in the first place, or if it just became one. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 5:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-a-good-american-patriotic-song-that-doesnt-glorify-war/509437/5 "2009-09-09T17:08:24Z")
> [@Mosier](#): > > Don’t like it at all. Can’t say why, exactly, but i like literally all of the “traditional” patriotic American songs better. Maybe because it sounds like an 80’s power ballad? Don’t like the militaristic bent of the Star Spangled Banner. Fine, I agree with \*\*appleciders \*\*-- that’s what America the Beautiful is for. ---
**Author:** ![Quintas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/48db29/32.png) [@Quintas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Quintas)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-a-good-american-patriotic-song-that-doesnt-glorify-war/509437/6 "2009-09-09T17:16:41Z")
Oh well, i think it’s fantastic. I’d like to find more of his work. He’s unashamed to wear his USA shirt. I wish we would all wear them proudly. And the heroes in heaven in the video is inspiring. We should pause to remember out lost heroes and consider if we are living up to their sacrifice in every decision we make. ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 5:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-a-good-american-patriotic-song-that-doesnt-glorify-war/509437/7 "2009-09-09T17:30:52Z")
Horrible. Horrible metal hair. Horrible music. Horrible lyrics. Horrible performance. Horribly cheesy. Just…no. Absolutely not. ---
**Author:** ![thirdwarning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecccb3/32.png) [@thirdwarning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thirdwarning)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-a-good-american-patriotic-song-that-doesnt-glorify-war/509437/8 "2009-09-09T17:32:46Z")
It’s a badly written song, badly sung. And the “angels” in the video that made me immediately think of the flying vampire women in Van Helsing didn’t help. “A mer ah kah”? Sorry, it just doesn’t work. ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-a-good-american-patriotic-song-that-doesnt-glorify-war/509437/9 "2009-09-09T17:45:30Z")
> [@appleciders](#): > > What, “America the Beautiful” doesn’t count? The third verse is about war heroes. (but does include the line “Who more than self, their country loved and mercy more than life.” which makes me cry.) ---
**Author:** ![Paintcharge](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/paintcharge/32/7946_2.png) [@Paintcharge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paintcharge)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 5:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-a-good-american-patriotic-song-that-doesnt-glorify-war/509437/10 "2009-09-09T17:49:20Z")
[Power and Glory](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Ob7cDBMc6g) by Phil Ochs. But that thing in the OP was terrible. ---
**Author:** ![Kyla](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/eada6e/32.png) [@Kyla](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kyla)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 6:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-a-good-american-patriotic-song-that-doesnt-glorify-war/509437/11 "2009-09-09T18:05:49Z")
Oh my god. My friend (who’s French and therefore possibly a covert terrorist) found the song mentioned in the OP on the internet awhile ago and showed it to me. We laughed until our stomachs hurt. Occasionally she still sings it at me. I told her she’s just jealous because French people are too busy eating cheese and drinking wine to stand as one. brb, posting the link to this thread to her Facebook page. Hilarity will soon ensue. ---
**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-a-good-american-patriotic-song-that-doesnt-glorify-war/509437/12 "2009-09-09T18:10:57Z")
[![](https://i.ytimg.com/vi/XaI5IRuS2aE/hqdefault.jpg "Woody Guthrie-This Land Is Your Land") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaI5IRuS2aE) ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 6:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-a-good-american-patriotic-song-that-doesnt-glorify-war/509437/13 "2009-09-09T18:30:58Z")
Just listening to him pronounce the country as “a-mer-uh-kuh” drove me nuts. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 6:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-a-good-american-patriotic-song-that-doesnt-glorify-war/509437/14 "2009-09-09T18:49:37Z")
I have no sound so can’t tell if this is a parody thread … was that Weird Al? ---
**Author:** ![TheMadHun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/53a042/32.png) [@TheMadHun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TheMadHun)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 6:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-a-good-american-patriotic-song-that-doesnt-glorify-war/509437/15 "2009-09-09T18:51:06Z")
I got though the first 10 seconds of weak droning and gave up. We don’t need a drone. Stick with Cohan’s I’m a Yankee Doodle Dandy ---
**Author:** ![RealityChuck](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/realitychuck/32/195_2.png) [@RealityChuck](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RealityChuck)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-a-good-american-patriotic-song-that-doesnt-glorify-war/509437/16 "2009-09-09T19:25:51Z")
“Air” does not rhyme with “tear,” even if you sing it in a phony accent to try to fool people. I didn’t need to hear any more. There’s always “This Land is Your Land.” ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-a-good-american-patriotic-song-that-doesnt-glorify-war/509437/17 "2009-09-09T19:31:55Z")
> [@Quintas](#): > > I’ve always found our National Anthem a bit militaristic. This is a fantastic alternative. What do you guys think? I think it’s a joke. ---
**Author:** ![thirdwarning](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ecccb3/32.png) [@thirdwarning](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/thirdwarning)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-a-good-american-patriotic-song-that-doesnt-glorify-war/509437/18 "2009-09-09T19:31:58Z")
I had to go, but it’s okay. Now, those are powerful lyrics. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 8:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-a-good-american-patriotic-song-that-doesnt-glorify-war/509437/19 "2009-09-09T20:19:14Z")
[This is my country](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dohZ1awMIS4&feature=related) ---
**Author:** ![woodstockbirdybird](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/woodstockbirdybird/32/7905_2.png) [@woodstockbirdybird](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/woodstockbirdybird)\ **Post date:** [September 9, 2009, 8:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-a-good-american-patriotic-song-that-doesnt-glorify-war/509437/20 "2009-09-09T20:25:06Z")
> [@RealityChuck](#): > > “Air” does not rhyme with “tear,” even if you sing it in a phony accent to try to fool people. I didn’t need to hear any more. > > There’s always “This Land is Your Land.” Well, it depends on which definition of “tear” you’re using. As for the song, it’s possibly the worst thing I’ve heard in a decade, if it’s not a parody. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-a-good-american-patriotic-song-that-doesnt-glorify-war/509437.md?page=2)