# Found a good american patriotic song that doesn't glorify war **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 9, 2009, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-a-good-american-patriotic-song-that-doesnt-glorify-war/509437 "2009-09-09T16:43:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 15\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Argent\_Towers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e8c25b/32.png) [@Argent\_Towers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Argent_Towers)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 1:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-a-good-american-patriotic-song-that-doesnt-glorify-war/509437/41 "2009-09-10T13:06:23Z")
IT IS A JOKE. Look at the way he shoves the little black kid’s head out of the way as he walks past him. It’s supposed to be a comedy video, and it succeeds. ---
**Author:** ![foolsguinea](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foolsguinea/32/14751_2.png) [@foolsguinea](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/foolsguinea)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 1:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-a-good-american-patriotic-song-that-doesnt-glorify-war/509437/42 "2009-09-10T13:15:45Z")
> [@appleciders](#): > > What, “America the Beautiful” doesn’t count? My thoughts exactly. ---
**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 2:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-a-good-american-patriotic-song-that-doesnt-glorify-war/509437/43 "2009-09-10T14:55:10Z")
> [@TWDuke](#): > > What the singer actually sings is more like "uh-mare-uh _ **KUH** _, uh-mare-uh _ **KUH** _. > [@pulykamell](#): > > I thought it was the third syllable people were having problems with. It should be a short “i”, not a schwa/“uh”. I was, indeed, talking about the third syllable. I usually say it as a short “i,” although most people substitute a schwa, which is fine. He gives it an emphatic “UH,” which is very different from a schwa and sounds bizarre. ---
**Author:** ![Chanteuse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9de053/32.png) [@Chanteuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chanteuse)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 3:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-a-good-american-patriotic-song-that-doesnt-glorify-war/509437/44 "2009-09-10T15:57:48Z")
> [@Argent\_Towers](#): > > IT IS A JOKE. > > Look at the way he shoves the little black kid’s head out of the way as he walks past him. It’s supposed to be a comedy video, and it succeeds. ['Fraid not.](http://www.americawestandasone.com/America-We-Stand-As-One.html) ---
**Author:** ![Ogre](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/ecb155/32.png) [@Ogre](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ogre)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-a-good-american-patriotic-song-that-doesnt-glorify-war/509437/45 "2009-09-10T16:30:49Z")
> [@Chanteuse](#): > > ['Fraid not.](http://www.americawestandasone.com/America-We-Stand-As-One.html) :smack: The first dozen times I looked at that URL, I read “America West And As One” instead of “America We Stand As One”. I was all 😕 and thinking this song had some weirdly anachronistic Manifest Destiny theme. /:smack: ---
**Author:** ![Chanteuse](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9de053/32.png) [@Chanteuse](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chanteuse)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-a-good-american-patriotic-song-that-doesnt-glorify-war/509437/46 "2009-09-10T17:12:50Z")
> [@Ogre](#): > > :smack: > > The first dozen times I looked at that URL, I read “America West And As One” instead of “America We Stand As One”. > > I was all 😕 and thinking this song had some weirdly anachronistic Manifest Destiny theme. > > /:smack: Don’t feel too bad–I still can’t see it in my mind as anything but America Wet Sand Stone! ---
**Author:** ![Jettboy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/85e7bf/32.png) [@Jettboy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jettboy)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-a-good-american-patriotic-song-that-doesnt-glorify-war/509437/47 "2009-09-10T17:14:40Z")
Oh, man…was that ever awful. So much cheese I’ll be constipated for a week. ---
**Author:** ![An\_Gadai](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@An\_Gadai](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Gadai)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-a-good-american-patriotic-song-that-doesnt-glorify-war/509437/48 "2009-09-10T17:14:56Z")
[Here’s another good one](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UC8Zrtah1AQ). ---
**Author:** ![Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/troy_mcclure_sf/32/4150_2.png) [@Troy\_McClure\_SF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Troy_McClure_SF)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-a-good-american-patriotic-song-that-doesnt-glorify-war/509437/49 "2009-09-10T17:52:41Z")
The OP’s song is by the former SFX guy for Star Trek: TNG, btw. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 6:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-a-good-american-patriotic-song-that-doesnt-glorify-war/509437/50 "2009-09-10T18:52:59Z")
Sorry, but IMHO the OP’s song sucks. The problem with “The Star-Spangled Banner” isn’t its warlike tone, for the reasons so well stated by **TWDuke** , but its wide range - almost an octave and a half! Most people really can’t sing it well, but I still like it. “America the Beautiful,” “God Bless America” and “This Land Is Your Land” are all good patriotic songs, too. Or try this more recent tune, a country favorite of mine: [http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOy59EdoN7I](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QOy59EdoN7I) ---
**Author:** ![pulykamell](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pulykamell/32/3166_2.png) [@pulykamell](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pulykamell)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 6:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-a-good-american-patriotic-song-that-doesnt-glorify-war/509437/51 "2009-09-10T18:58:37Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Sorry, but IMHO the OP’s song sucks. The problem with “The Star-Spangled Banner” isn’t its warlike tone, for the reasons so well stated by **TWDuke** , but its wide range - almost an octave and a half! Most people really can’t sing it well, but I still like it. Yeah, I think the problem with the SBB is the melody. The vocal range is rough, but the melody itself, in my opinion, sucks. “America the Beautiful” has my favorite melody of the typical patriotic songs. ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2009, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-a-good-american-patriotic-song-that-doesnt-glorify-war/509437/52 "2009-09-10T21:02:37Z")
> [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](#): > > [This Land is Your Land](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XaI5IRuS2aE) - Woody Guthrie. > > The abomination in the OP was sappy, predictable and nauseating in every way. In the squares of the city - In the shadow of the steeple Near the relief office - I see my people And some are grumblin’ and some are wonderin’ If this land’s still made for you and me. Particularly nauseating was the idea that people become angels when they die. Well, not nauseating, just incorrect. ---
**Author:** ![Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/brown_eyed_girl/32/3574_2.png) [@Brown\_Eyed\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Brown_Eyed_Girl)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-a-good-american-patriotic-song-that-doesnt-glorify-war/509437/53 "2009-09-11T14:38:03Z")
Now that you mention it, **Gigi** , for the cynical among us, [this song](http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AN3rN59GlWw) seems apropos… ---
**Author:** ![Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/f04885/32.png) [@Qin\_Shi\_Huangdi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Qin_Shi_Huangdi)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2009, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-a-good-american-patriotic-song-that-doesnt-glorify-war/509437/54 "2009-09-11T23:16:13Z")
What’s so wrong about militaristic songs? ---
**Author:** ![gigi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/a587f6/32.png) [@gigi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gigi)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2009, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-a-good-american-patriotic-song-that-doesnt-glorify-war/509437/55 "2009-09-14T20:35:28Z")
War may be a necessary evil but presumably you wouldn’t want to “glorify” your country’s destruction of others’ lives and lands. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-a-good-american-patriotic-song-that-doesnt-glorify-war/509437.md?page=2)