# Found my brother-in-law's diary in my wife's underwear drawer

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**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [May 12, 2010, 3:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-my-brother-in-laws-diary-in-my-wifes-underwear-drawer/539179 "2010-05-12T15:40:38Z")\
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**Author:** ![Rilchiam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/2bfe46/32.png) [@Rilchiam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rilchiam)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-my-brother-in-laws-diary-in-my-wifes-underwear-drawer/539179/181 "2010-05-18T02:59:30Z")

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> [@AuntiePam](#):
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> What I’m having trouble believing is a man who not only does the laundry but **puts it away**.

I’m really tempted to go into [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=563574) and say “You lie! Husbands don’t do laundry!” But we’re not supposed to joke in GQ.

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**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 2:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-my-brother-in-laws-diary-in-my-wifes-underwear-drawer/539179/182 "2010-05-18T14:34:34Z")

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> [@Rilchiam](#):
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> I’m really tempted to go into [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=563574).

Did it for you.

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**Author:** ![Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swallowed_My_Cellphone)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 3:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-my-brother-in-laws-diary-in-my-wifes-underwear-drawer/539179/183 "2010-05-18T15:24:25Z")

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> [@Irishman](#):
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> Agreed. In the original incident “a few years ago”, your wife “accidentally” texted your BIL a message that she said was intended for you. Well, was she in the habit of sending you texts like that? Did it make sense that she would text _you_ “I miss you”? Sounds fishy.
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> Bolding added for emphasis. If she accidentally texted him instead of you, why did he agree, instead of saying “Why did you send me this?” (Or “y did u send me ths”). Does not speak of innocense.

Just to provide a couple possibilities, my soon-to-be bride and I _do_ say/email/text “I miss you” sometimes, even though we live together. It’s usually when we’ve both been very, very busy, preoccupied with work, had lots of things scheduled with other people, etc. and we feel distant, more like roommates than life partners. So we mean “I miss you” when we say it.

As for tBIL’s response, in MPSIMS I started a thread because I accidentally said “I love you” when hanging up the phone to a co-worker. It’s not unusual for someone to respond to such a mix-up with “I love you too, schnookum-pie!” or some variation to lightheartedly tease the sender. So I don’t actually think all that was as big a red flag.

What _was_ a red flag was BIL’s admission that he was or had been actively interested.

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**Author:** ![Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swallowed_My_Cellphone)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 4:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-my-brother-in-laws-diary-in-my-wifes-underwear-drawer/539179/184 "2010-05-18T16:01:14Z")

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> [@Wheelz](#):
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> Try to read a text on your phone from more than a foot or two away. More to the point, try to read a text on somebody _else’s_ phone without them realizing.

My girlfriend and I were at a basketball game. Our team was losing so instead of watching tehe game we derived our entertainment from the texts of the guy next to her who was texting his buddies that a cheerleader was cruising him and he was just waiting for a signal to dash of the the bathroom for a quick BJ. (Note, not a single cheerleader was even vaguely looking in our general directions). The guy’s pretty young date was oblivious. So yes, it’s very possible to read text messages from someone else’s phone without a whole lot of effort. Even with our tired eyes.

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**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 4:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-my-brother-in-laws-diary-in-my-wifes-underwear-drawer/539179/185 "2010-05-18T16:15:13Z")

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> [@Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](#):
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> My girlfriend and I were at a basketball game. Our team was losing so instead of watching tehe game we derived our entertainment from the texts of the guy next to her who was texting his buddies that a cheerleader was cruising him and he was just waiting for a signal to dash of the the bathroom for a quick BJ. (Note, not a single cheerleader was even vaguely looking in our general directions). The guy’s pretty young date was oblivious. So yes, it’s very possible to read text messages from someone else’s phone without a whole lot of effort. Even with our tired eyes.

Ick.. Please tell me you accidentally-on-purpose spilled hot nacho cheese down the back of his neck!

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**Author:** ![Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swallowed_My_Cellphone)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-my-brother-in-laws-diary-in-my-wifes-underwear-drawer/539179/186 "2010-05-18T16:42:14Z")

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> [@TruCelt](#):
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> Ick.. Please tell me you accidentally-on-purpose spilled hot nacho cheese down the back of his neck!

He was beside us, not in front of us. We very nearly did say something to the poor young woman with him, but we figured he was so stupid, she’d figure out he was a douchebag pretty fast.

I’m sure she’d have been able to see his texts too, but he was sitting to her right and the game was occurring to the left, so her head was mostly turned the wrong way.

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**Author:** ![Snickers](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/5daacb/32.png) [@Snickers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snickers)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 5:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-my-brother-in-laws-diary-in-my-wifes-underwear-drawer/539179/187 "2010-05-18T17:03:58Z")

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Yep, I agree with **SMC**. See, my dad has season tickets to the Vikings. Last year, we sat behind a frat-boy type who I dubbed Mr. Football and his buddies. At one game, he and one of his friends had brought dates (usually it was four guys; this game, two guys, two gals). I don’t know if they were “date” dates or just friends, but the buddy and his girl disappeared somewhere for like a quarter and a half, so I’m guessing at least he was on a date.

Anyway, Mr. Football and his girl. Maybe dating, maybe not. Throughout the entire game, he was texting some other chick about various naughty things they’d like to do to each other - I know because I could see his phone and easily read the texts from my seat behind him. I’ve no idea whether the girl he brought to the game could as well. Regardless, I thought it rather crass, even if the girl he brought was his sister. And anyway, there’s a game on! You have better things to do right now! But, to each his own, I guess.

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**Author:** ![Irishman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/b487fb/32.png) [@Irishman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Irishman)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 5:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-my-brother-in-laws-diary-in-my-wifes-underwear-drawer/539179/188 "2010-05-18T17:48:07Z")

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**mlees** said:

> [@](#):
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> I was thinking:
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> “Your husband keeps hitting on me. I’m surprised by this.”  
> “Well, I was too, until I read his jornal. As you can see, he says nuthin in there…”

How does that make any sense? I’m not just doubting the plausibility, I’m searching for coherency.

“Well, he clearly isn’t hitting on you, because he doesn’t say anything about it in his journal.”

No.

“Obviously he’s not serious, even though I think you 2 had an affair already, because he didn’t say anything about it in his journal.”

No.

“Wait, my husband is still hitting on you? Even after that last incident when you both swore nothing happened? That dirty pig, I’m gonna fry his nuts! Here, read his journal and laugh at how pathetic he is.”

Erm, what?

No, it’s not happening. There is NO WAY the wife is going to the BIL’s wife with a question about the BIL hitting on her. The only way she would bring it up is to say, “Hey, look, you should know because I don’t want you finding out some other way, your husband keeps hitting on me even though I told him I’m not interested. I hate to be the bearer of the bad news, but I wouldn’t want someone else to tell you and you think I’m encouraging him.” I can’t get from there to “Oh, well thanks for telling me, why don’t you read his diary, but keep it hidden from your husband - I’d hate to think he read BIL’s deep thoughts.” 😕

I just can’t get any scenario that makes sense for the wife to get the journal from BIL’s wife. It’s a ridiculous premise.

My best guess about the OP, he went off to confront the wife and now is busy burying bodies and doesn’t want to post again out of fear someone will figure it out. 😉

Either that, or it’s time for finals.

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**Author:** ![rayman5321](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@rayman5321](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rayman5321)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-my-brother-in-laws-diary-in-my-wifes-underwear-drawer/539179/189 "2010-05-18T17:52:40Z")

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> [@elbows](#):
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> I call for a show of hands, are you a man who keeps a diary, do you know a man who keeps a diary?

No, and I don’t think very many men keep (old-fashioned written) diaries these days.

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**Author:** ![Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9d8465/32.png) [@Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Swallowed_My_Cellphone)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-my-brother-in-laws-diary-in-my-wifes-underwear-drawer/539179/190 "2010-05-18T17:57:53Z")

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> [@Snickers](#):
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> And anyway, there’s a game on! You have better things to do right now! But, to each his own, I guess.

Clearly you’ve never been to a Raptors game. The douchebag’s “I wanna munch her ass!” texts were far more entertaining than the Raps getting their asses handed to them.

Can someone give me the abridged version of Pyjama Pants and why everyone was annoyed? The OP rambles on forever and the thread is pages and pages.

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**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 6:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-my-brother-in-laws-diary-in-my-wifes-underwear-drawer/539179/191 "2010-05-18T18:00:20Z")

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Yeah, I’m not getting why “Well, he didn’t write it down” means he has no interest or hasn’t been hitting on her. It seems like a total non sequitur to me.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 6:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-my-brother-in-laws-diary-in-my-wifes-underwear-drawer/539179/192 "2010-05-18T18:16:39Z")

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> [@Swallowed\_My\_Cellphone](#):
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> Clearly you’ve never been to a Raptors game. The douchebag’s “I wanna munch her ass!” texts were far more entertaining than the Raps getting their asses handed to them.
> 
> Can someone give me the abridged version of Pyjama Pants and why everyone was annoyed? The OP rambles on forever and the thread is pages and pages.

Because based on the few posts I read, it’s almost surely made up. This being the internet, nobody knows for sure and there was much speculation. It turned into an argument in a couple of Pit threads, [including this one](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=116085).

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 6:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-my-brother-in-laws-diary-in-my-wifes-underwear-drawer/539179/193 "2010-05-18T18:27:00Z")

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> [@Rilchiam](#):
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> I’m really tempted to go into [this thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=563574) and say “You lie! Husbands don’t do laundry!” But we’re not supposed to joke in GQ.

[mod note]  
There’s actually nothing wrong with making jokes in GQ. We’re a fun crowd! We only have a problem with joke answers made _before there is a real answer_.

Give the OP a chance to get some serious responses, then feel free to insert that hilarious quip you’ve been saving up!  
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**Author:** ![Cat\_Whisperer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/cat_whisperer/32/4839_2.png) [@Cat\_Whisperer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cat_Whisperer)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 8:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-my-brother-in-laws-diary-in-my-wifes-underwear-drawer/539179/194 "2010-05-18T20:35:08Z")

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I wish this OP would come back and give me some closure. Mmm, sweet, sweet closure.

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**Author:** ![Bearflag70](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/8e7dd6/32.png) [@Bearflag70](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bearflag70)\
**Post date:** [May 18, 2010, 9:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-my-brother-in-laws-diary-in-my-wifes-underwear-drawer/539179/195 "2010-05-18T21:58:26Z")

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> [@Zebra](#):
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> Here is my evil plan.  
> Buy another identical diary. Replace the one in the drawer with the fake. Your wife has already read it and won’t look at it again soon.  
> Invite sister and BIL over for dinner.
> 
> Put the real diary on a bookshelf in the living room.
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> Make sure he sees it during the course of the evening.
> 
> Watch them squirm.

Is this inspired by Hitchcock’s _Rope_?

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**Author:** ![TruCelt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/trucelt/32/523_2.png) [@TruCelt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TruCelt)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 12:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-my-brother-in-laws-diary-in-my-wifes-underwear-drawer/539179/196 "2010-05-19T00:54:06Z")

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> [@Bearflag70](#):
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> Is this inspired by Hitchcock’s _Rope_?

It made me think of “The Telltale Heart.” Only without the hallucinating bit. . .

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**Author:** ![Gary\_Robson](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gary_robson/32/3448_2.png) [@Gary\_Robson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gary_Robson)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-my-brother-in-laws-diary-in-my-wifes-underwear-drawer/539179/197 "2010-05-19T17:13:29Z")

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1. Practice imitating BIL’s handwriting

2. Add some interesting entries to the diary

3. Profit!

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**Author:** ![An\_Arky](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/87869e/32.png) [@An\_Arky](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/An_Arky)\
**Post date:** [May 19, 2010, 5:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-my-brother-in-laws-diary-in-my-wifes-underwear-drawer/539179/198 "2010-05-19T17:25:14Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> I wish this OP would come back and give me some closure. Mmm, sweet, sweet closure.

Either bad stuff went down or he’s got enough plausible background info for his Literotica story and split. 😃

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**Author:** ![Valleyman51](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/5e9695/32.png) [@Valleyman51](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Valleyman51)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-my-brother-in-laws-diary-in-my-wifes-underwear-drawer/539179/199 "2010-06-26T15:00:16Z")

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Maybe the BIL’s wife knows about the journal. He might have said something to her like, “Goin’ out to make some sketches honey, be back in a few.” Then, :eek::eek:ps he forgot and left it behind. Then she thinks, better take this home and stash it in the undies drawer until we see each other again. Nahh, that couldn’t happen either! 😃

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**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\
**Post date:** [June 26, 2010, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-my-brother-in-laws-diary-in-my-wifes-underwear-drawer/539179/200 "2010-06-26T17:32:03Z")

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> [@Bearflag70](#):
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> Is this inspired by Hitchcock’s _Rope_?

I am independently evil.

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