# Found space object proves we are not alone \[Nothing is proven\] **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [January 22, 2021, 8:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-space-object-proves-we-are-not-alone-nothing-is-proven/931237 "2021-01-22T20:45:43Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 23, 2021, 11:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-space-object-proves-we-are-not-alone-nothing-is-proven/931237/62 "2021-01-23T23:36:05Z")
> [@Galactus](#): > > They’ve come to chat with the whales. Chat? > **[Dead whale in the Mediterranean probably 'one of the largest' ever found](https://www.livescience.com/finback-whale-largest-ever-mediterranean.html)** > > Finback whales are the second-largest animal species on Earth. They are considered endangered. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 9:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-space-object-proves-we-are-not-alone-nothing-is-proven/931237/63 "2021-01-25T21:20:32Z")
> **[Have We Already Been Visited by Aliens?](https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2021/01/25/have-we-already-been-visited-by-aliens)** > > An eminent astrophysicist argues that signs of intelligent extraterrestrial life have appeared in our skies. What’s the evidence for his extraordinary claim? ---
**Author:** ![LSLGuy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lslguy/32/5813_2.png) [@LSLGuy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LSLGuy)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 10:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-space-object-proves-we-are-not-alone-nothing-is-proven/931237/64 "2021-01-25T22:20:34Z")
Of course they’ve come for the whales now. If they’d come a hundred years ago we’d never have detected the aliens. And if they come a hundred years hence the last whale would have died long ago. So of course they came now. Or at least of course now is when we detect them coming for the whales. It’s an offshoot of the cetacic principle: We observe a reality that’s consistent with the existence of whales because whales exist. At least until we chop the last one up for sport or science or dinner or whatever. 😉 If I was King here I think I’d adjust the thread title to be “Found space object proves Avi Loeb loves publicity”. ---
**Author:** ![Skywatcher](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skywatcher/32/254_2.png) [@Skywatcher](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skywatcher)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 10:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-space-object-proves-we-are-not-alone-nothing-is-proven/931237/65 "2021-01-25T22:25:18Z")
> [@PoppaSan](#): > > Is stupidity an element? [Retardium.](https://www.collectedcurios.com/sequentialart.php?s=872) 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-space-object-proves-we-are-not-alone-nothing-is-proven/931237/66 "2021-01-25T22:57:18Z")
> [@kenobi\_65](#): > > Granted, the shape of the object in the OP reminds me of a Mon Calamari Star Cruiser, from Return of the Jedi, but I’m a nerd 😃 > > [https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/022/365/073/large/ec-henry-both-mon-cal-frigates.jpg?1575176956](https://cdnb.artstation.com/p/assets/images/images/022/365/073/large/ec-henry-both-mon-cal-frigates.jpg?1575176956) "Mons Calamari’? Is that Admiral Ackbar’s home planet? ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 10:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-space-object-proves-we-are-not-alone-nothing-is-proven/931237/67 "2021-01-25T22:59:20Z")
It is, indeed, and the ship that Ackbar was commanding in _Return of the Jedi_ was one of that type. ---
**Author:** ![Dark\_Sponge](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dark_sponge/32/121_2.png) [@Dark\_Sponge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dark_Sponge)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-space-object-proves-we-are-not-alone-nothing-is-proven/931237/68 "2021-01-25T23:08:22Z")
Pretty cool. It might just be a cool rock though. Sounds like a job for SpaceX. ---
**Author:** ![Galactus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/galactus/32/3581_2.png) [@Galactus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Galactus)\ **Post date:** [January 25, 2021, 11:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-space-object-proves-we-are-not-alone-nothing-is-proven/931237/69 "2021-01-25T23:51:39Z")
Perhaps we were supposed to Rendezvous with it? ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 12:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-space-object-proves-we-are-not-alone-nothing-is-proven/931237/70 "2021-01-26T00:16:54Z")
> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > "Mons Calamari’? Is that Admiral Ackbar’s home planet? > **[Mon Cala](https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/Mon_Cala)** > > Mon Cala, also known as Mon Calamari or Dac, was an oceanic planet located in the Mon Calamari system, a binary star system positioned in the Calamari sector of the galaxy's Outer Rim Territories and The Slice. Home to two sentient aquatic species,... ---
**Author:** ![Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slow_moving_vehicle/32/291_2.png) [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slow_Moving_Vehicle)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-space-object-proves-we-are-not-alone-nothing-is-proven/931237/71 "2021-01-26T01:29:59Z")
I see. And does it evade Imperial cruisers by sending out large clouds of black ink? ---
**Author:** ![kenobi\_65](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kenobi_65/32/13178_2.png) [@kenobi\_65](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kenobi_65)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-space-object-proves-we-are-not-alone-nothing-is-proven/931237/72 "2021-01-26T01:31:23Z")
> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > And does it evade Imperial cruisers by sending out large clouds of black ink? It deploys fusillades of crunchy, delicious fried seafood rings. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-space-object-proves-we-are-not-alone-nothing-is-proven/931237/73 "2021-01-26T02:08:09Z")
> [@Slow\_Moving\_Vehicle](#): > > I see. And does it evade Imperial cruisers by sending out large clouds of black ink? Nope. It ejects a large tarp. ---
**Author:** ![Tibby](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tibby/32/17030_2.png) [@Tibby](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tibby)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 8:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-space-object-proves-we-are-not-alone-nothing-is-proven/931237/74 "2021-01-26T08:32:16Z")
I have it on good authority that the object is an extraterrestrial coprolite. Apparently, the government is suppressing new Hubble images of an object on an Earthbound trajectory that can only be described as an extra-large roll of Charmin. ---
**Author:** ![Riemann](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/riemann/32/3133_2.png) [@Riemann](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Riemann)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-space-object-proves-we-are-not-alone-nothing-is-proven/931237/75 "2021-01-26T08:47:22Z")
> [@eschereal](#): > > mediated by gauge bosons which are commonly referred to as “morons”. gauge bozons, surely ---
**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-space-object-proves-we-are-not-alone-nothing-is-proven/931237/76 "2021-01-26T18:39:02Z")
> [@mbh](#): > > He does not actually assert that [ʻOumuamua](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/%CA%BBOumuamua) is artificial. He just says that there is not enough evidence to rule it out. I probably wouldn’t word it that way. The arguement more of a “We don’t currently have another explanation for it, so maybe its aliens.” A bit of a “gods in the gaps argument”. Skimming the paper its mostly just calculations showing that the standard explanations for what it might be fail. The idea that this might be artificial is only presented in the discussion. Overall, I think the paper would have been better if that had been left out. But without it the paper wouldn’t have hit the mainstream media the way it did, which is undoubtedly why the authors put it in. ---
**Author:** ![gdave](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gdave/32/3683_2.png) [@gdave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gdave)\ **Post date:** [January 26, 2021, 7:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-space-object-proves-we-are-not-alone-nothing-is-proven/931237/77 "2021-01-26T19:33:19Z")
NPR’s [Science Friday program aired an interview with Avi Loeb](https://www.sciencefriday.com/segments/avi-loeb-extraterrestrial-life/) last Friday. Frankly, he came across to me as a bog standard crackpot. He just barely managed to refrain from using the Galileo Gambit, using the Giordano Bruno Variation instead. Because your peers not agreeing that you’ve proved your hypothesis is _exactly_ like being burned at the stake. (Of course, he mangles why Bruno was burned at the stake, but that’s distressingly common among science popularizers). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-space-object-proves-we-are-not-alone-nothing-is-proven/931237.md?page=3)