# Found "The Man in the High Castle" wanting -- still hope for me re Philip K. Dick? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 12, 2014, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-the-man-in-the-high-castle-wanting-still-hope-for-me-re-philip-k-dick/701119 "2014-10-12T17:20:01Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2014, 6:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-the-man-in-the-high-castle-wanting-still-hope-for-me-re-philip-k-dick/701119/21 "2014-10-18T06:31:14Z")
> [@Baal\_Houtham](#): > > Since I’m having trouble sleeping, I’d like to join the OP in complaing about TMITHC. However, it’s been 25 years since I read it, so forgive me if I flub some details. > > It’s got a great set-up. A “best seller” set-up. The Axis winning is good. Having the U.S. divided between Germany and Japan is better. Having those two empires not entirely thrilled with each other is realistic and good. Having a Japanese character who collects > pre-war American items is a lovely Dickian-type touch. > > Having there be legends of The Man In The Castle who is still unconquered is fascinating. It’s the stuff of right-wing, nationalistic fantasy – a powerful idea, but seemingly impossible. Then there is some Dickian-style reality leakage: maybe the Axis didn’t win. And since they did actually lose, the reality leakage is interesting. Dick knows how to be subtle about such things. > > So there’s enough good, fascinating stuff for a big book here, but the tale ends up focusing on the iChing??? The spirit behind the iChing has written a book describing how the Axis really lost? That’s where I get lost and generally pissed. If that idea has some elemental power, I’ve never apprehended it. I’m sorry, but I don’t accept the existence of any such spirit, and Dick doesn’t make me suspend disbelief. It’s been a long time since I’ve read it. I think of it as a book about perception and being weighed down by our baggage. Our lives may feel as though Hitler and Tojo won, and our outlook may reflect this ahistorical monstrosity and we may guide our lives by things as stupid as astrology or IChing, but that is not the reality of the world we actually do live in. The good guys won. Live your life like the good guys won. ---
**Author:** ![vontsira](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/51bf81/32.png) [@vontsira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vontsira)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2014, 9:28am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-the-man-in-the-high-castle-wanting-still-hope-for-me-re-philip-k-dick/701119/22 "2014-10-18T09:28:40Z")
> [@Baal\_Houtham](#): > > Since I’m having trouble sleeping, I’d like to join the OP in complaing about TMITHC. However, it’s been 25 years since I read it, so forgive me if I flub some details. > > It’s got a great set-up. A “best seller” set-up. The Axis winning is good. Having the U.S. divided between Germany and Japan is better. Having those two empires not entirely thrilled with each other is realistic and good. Having a Japanese character who collects > pre-war American items is a lovely Dickian-type touch. > > Having there be legends of The Man In The Castle who is still unconquered is fascinating. It’s the stuff of right-wing, nationalistic fantasy – a powerful idea, but seemingly impossible. Then there is some Dickian-style reality leakage: maybe the Axis didn’t win. And since they did actually lose, the reality leakage is interesting. Dick knows how to be subtle about such things. > > So there’s enough good, fascinating stuff for a big book here, but the tale ends up focusing on the iChing??? The spirit behind the iChing has written a book describing how the Axis really lost? That’s where I get lost and generally pissed. If that idea has some elemental power, I’ve never apprehended it. I’m sorry, but I don’t accept the existence of any such spirit, and Dick doesn’t make me suspend disbelief. I, likewise, thought the basic premise sounded terrific; but, quite simply, found the novel boring. (There came to mind my ex, who is a sweet woman, but conversationally bears “the kiss of death” – she could recount a personally-experienced narrative of the zombie apocalypse, and make it boring.) The characters’ preoccupation with the iChing was, for me, wearisome; and I didn’t get as far as the stuff with the spirit behind the iChing having written the contra-reality book. > [@erysichthon](#): > > I am a huge PKD fan; I’ve read all his works multiple times, have an extensive collection of first editions, was a member of the Philip K. Dick Society, etc., etc. BUT. I recognize that PKD is not for everyone; I have some very literate, well-read friends who don’t like his work at all. > > I commend **vontsira** for wanting to give PKD another try. _Ubik_, _Androids_, and _Flow My Tears_ are all good choices. However, although TMITHC is different from PKD’s usual output, it’s not _that_ different. If you’re bugged by meandering plots, unsympathetic characters, and ontological preoccupations (to cite some of the complaints in this thread), then you’re probably never going to get into PKD. I’ve ordered _Androids_ from Amazon. From the general tenor of this thread, I don’t feel hugely hopeful; but will try to give it “a fair go”. > [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > It’s been a long time since I’ve read it. I think of it as a book about perception and being weighed down by our baggage. Our lives may feel as though Hitler and Tojo won, and our outlook may reflect this ahistorical monstrosity and we may guide our lives by things as stupid as astrology or IChing, but that is not the reality of the world we actually do live in. The good guys won. Live your life like the good guys won. **The Second Stone** ’s post above; and **Baal Houtham** ’s thoughts on “reality leakage” – in the book’s “universe”, did the Axis not in fact win, and the characters’ seeming experiences are unreal? – have me feeling that maybe I’m just a simple soul, who likes his alternative history simply to be plain alternative history, “and no messing”? I suspect that for alt. hist., I’m liable to be happier with the likes of Harry Turtledove (on his good days). ---
**Author:** ![GovernmentMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@GovernmentMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GovernmentMan)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2014, 11:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-the-man-in-the-high-castle-wanting-still-hope-for-me-re-philip-k-dick/701119/23 "2014-10-18T11:07:43Z")
> [@vontsira](#): > > Having long heard very favourable things about Philip K. Dick’s _The Man in the High Castle_ as a masterpiece of alternative history; I recently acquired a copy – had never hitherto read anything by this author. As things came about: the book failed initially to enthuse me, and matters got no better as I continued with it. After several days’ struggling with it – with long pauses – I made it to about halfway through. There seemed to be on the horizon, no likely improvement, and I gave up on it there. > > My problems with the novel included: its having a handful of assorted viewpoint characters, none of whom I found sympathetic or could strongly identify with; and in a hundred-odd pages, the plot seemed not to be going anywhere identifiable. So much in the book seemed just abstruse and random, with “nothing to latch onto”. The “alternative-history novel within an alternative-history novel” _The Grasshopper Lies Heavy_ – written by the eponymous MITHC and much-stressed as eagerly read in secret by the oppressed Americans, is about a World War II which the Allies won; but not one exactly following the course of WWII as in “Our (‘Real’) Time-Line”. Various factors were just plain pointlessly distracting and annoying – as, the character Childan’s use of the English language becoming in the course of his interacting with Japanese associates, “Japanese-ly telegraphic” in his speech – simplified grammar, omitting definite and indefinite articles – and his reported private thoughts coming to be, similarly, expressed in that jargon. > > Petty and feeble objections, perhaps; but am trying to find “cites” re what did not appeal to me about the book – whilst overall, I simply found it dull, and was unable to care much what became of the characters. I searched back over past Dope threads, and discovered there, that others have found Dick’s work not enjoyable or fulfilling (one example of such threads, below). A poster in another thread, mentioned having trouble with the several books by Dick which he had tried: telling of his never being able to get into them – managing to get about one-tenth of the way in; but being unable to understand what was going on, and feeling thrown into a world without any background-setting, or any preparation for his mind. I find it rather consoling, that I am far from the only person not to be instantly bowled-over by their first experience of this author’s work. > > Am wondering whether writing-off Philip K. Dick on the basis of experience described above, would be too hasty on my part; and whether other works by him might appeal to me more. Reading in the past threads mentioned, that readers consider _TMITHC_ to be Dick’s \* most \* coherent work, would seem not to bode well for his others… However, I would be interested to hear folks’ opinions. > > [http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=377207&highlight=Philip+Dick](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=377207&highlight=Philip+Dick) Are you a native English speaker? Your writing is weird and full of errors. ---
**Author:** ![vontsira](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/51bf81/32.png) [@vontsira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vontsira)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2014, 11:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-the-man-in-the-high-castle-wanting-still-hope-for-me-re-philip-k-dick/701119/24 "2014-10-18T11:47:49Z")
> [@GovernmentMan](#): > > Are you a native English speaker? Your writing is weird and full of errors. Are you naturally an obnoxious prick, or did you have to work at it? ---
**Author:** ![Baal\_Houtham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baal_houtham/32/13604_2.png) [@Baal\_Houtham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baal_Houtham)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2014, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-the-man-in-the-high-castle-wanting-still-hope-for-me-re-philip-k-dick/701119/25 "2014-10-18T14:40:33Z")
If the OP would like to read a nice, very short, PKDick story, here’s a link to [“King of the Elves.”](http://southerncrossreview.org/76/dick-king-elves.html) It leans more toward pure fantasy than most of Dick, but it has some characteristic touches: ordinary people facing amazing events, a bit of confusion about what’s real, cliche avoidance, and entirely decent writing. ---
**Author:** ![GovernmentMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@GovernmentMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GovernmentMan)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2014, 3:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-the-man-in-the-high-castle-wanting-still-hope-for-me-re-philip-k-dick/701119/26 "2014-10-18T15:10:45Z")
> [@vontsira](#): > > Are you naturally an obnoxious prick, or did you have to work at it? What? I’m just saying you’re trying to write all fancy with semicolons and words like “hitherto” and “enthuse” and it just comes out either wrong or jarring. ---
**Author:** ![NAF1138](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/naf1138/32/3245_2.png) [@NAF1138](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NAF1138)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2014, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-the-man-in-the-high-castle-wanting-still-hope-for-me-re-philip-k-dick/701119/27 "2014-10-18T15:38:11Z")
> [@vontsira](#): > > Thanks to all, for comments. I feel ready to give a fair try to one more work by Dick. _Valis_ is a trilogy, if I have things rightly; think that I’ll go for a stand-alone: probably _Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?_ – the title is intriguing. I learn that Dick wrote another novel titled _Flow My Tears, The Policeman Said_. Whatever the shortcomings of what’s actually in his books, the guy seems to have had a way with titles ! _Flow My Tears_ is a fantastic book with one of the most frustratingly annoying endings. Read it, but be ready to just chuck it across the room and yell when you get to the end. Actually, that’s true of a lot of Dick’s novels, but this one annoyed me more than most. ---
**Author:** ![vontsira](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/51bf81/32.png) [@vontsira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vontsira)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2014, 4:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-the-man-in-the-high-castle-wanting-still-hope-for-me-re-philip-k-dick/701119/28 "2014-10-18T16:45:14Z")
> [@vontsira](#): > > Are you naturally an obnoxious prick, or did you have to work at it? > [@GovernmentMan](#): > > What? I’m just saying you’re trying to write all fancy with semicolons and words like “hitherto” and “enthuse” and it just comes out either wrong or jarring. I had the impression that this was a discussion forum about mutual interests; not a class for people to try to improve their written-language skills. I quite often find posts on SDMB, whose written English grates on me – I’d thought, up to now, that the civil and polite thing to do in such circumstances, was to put up with it and say nothing – or if the particular poster’s language use is unendurable to the reader, just to skip over their posts. Your anger and hostility strike me as inappropriate for this particular scene – and if these three-and-a-bit lines are too “fancy” for your taste: that’s your problem. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2014, 5:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-the-man-in-the-high-castle-wanting-still-hope-for-me-re-philip-k-dick/701119/29 "2014-10-18T17:14:45Z")
> [@vontsira](#): > > **The Second Stone** ’s post above; and **Baal Houtham** ’s thoughts on “reality leakage” – in the book’s “universe”, did the Axis not in fact win, and the characters’ seeming experiences are unreal? – have me feeling that maybe I’m just a simple soul, who likes his alternative history simply to be plain alternative history, “and no messing”? I suspect that for alt. hist., I’m liable to be happier with the likes of Harry Turtledove (on his good days). Well, what did he mean by it? Dick was always playing around with perception of reality. As for Turtledove, thirty years ago I met him at a dinner party before he was famous. His wife and I were in a graduate seminar on the Aristotle’s Constitution of Athens. He was writing under a pen name at the time and introduced himself as an unknown science fiction author I wouldn’t have heard of who wrote under a pen name. Turns out I had read one of his short stories. Nice fellow. ---
**Author:** ![vontsira](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/51bf81/32.png) [@vontsira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vontsira)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2014, 5:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-the-man-in-the-high-castle-wanting-still-hope-for-me-re-philip-k-dick/701119/30 "2014-10-18T17:43:06Z")
> [@vontsira](#): > > … I suspect that for alt. hist., I’m liable to be happier with the likes of Harry Turtledove (on his good days). > [@The\_Second\_Stone](#): > > As for Turtledove, thirty years ago I met him at a dinner party before he was famous. His wife and I were in a graduate seminar on the Aristotle’s Constitution of Athens. He was writing under a pen name at the time and introduced himself as an unknown science fiction author I wouldn’t have heard of who wrote under a pen name. Turns out I had read one of his short stories. Nice fellow. I’ve always got the picture that Turtledove is personally, a nice guy – likewise his rival / friend S. M. Stirling, at least on a personal level. ---
**Author:** ![The\_Second\_Stone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/bbe5ce/32.png) [@The\_Second\_Stone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Second_Stone)\ **Post date:** [October 18, 2014, 6:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-the-man-in-the-high-castle-wanting-still-hope-for-me-re-philip-k-dick/701119/31 "2014-10-18T18:24:12Z")
Well, I met him once 30 years ago, and he is a very mild mannered and modest fellow. At least he was then. He was not famous, having only published under a pseudonym, and was rather surprised that I had read something of his. I think it was in Dragon magazine and featured an awful pun “one bad tern deserves another” at the end, if my memory serves me correctly. It was pretty good up till the end. If that is the correct story. The pun ruined the mood of the story. And I like bad puns. ---
**Author:** ![asterion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/4da419/32.png) [@asterion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/asterion)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2014, 1:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-the-man-in-the-high-castle-wanting-still-hope-for-me-re-philip-k-dick/701119/32 "2014-10-19T01:57:23Z")
The nice thing about Dick is that he wrote so much, there’s probably something you would like. I agree that a short story collection might be better. Other novels of his that I’ve read and liked that haven’t been mentioned so far include Solar Lottery, The Game Players of Titan, Clans of the Alphane Moon, The Three Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch, and The Zap Gun. I’ve also read the other novels mentioned so far and the only one I don’t really like is The Man in the High Castle. ---
**Author:** ![GovernmentMan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e9c0ed/32.png) [@GovernmentMan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GovernmentMan)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2014, 2:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-the-man-in-the-high-castle-wanting-still-hope-for-me-re-philip-k-dick/701119/33 "2014-10-19T02:55:13Z")
> [@vontsira](#): > > I had the impression that this was a discussion forum about mutual interests; not a class for people to try to improve their written-language skills. I quite often find posts on SDMB, whose written English grates on me – I’d thought, up to now, that the civil and polite thing to do in such circumstances, was to put up with it and say nothing – or if the particular poster’s language use is unendurable to the reader, just to skip over their posts. Your anger and hostility strike me as inappropriate for this particular scene – and if these three-and-a-bit lines are too “fancy” for your taste: that’s your problem. Why do you use semicolons so much when you’re not that familiar with their proper usage? ---
**Author:** ![vontsira](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/51bf81/32.png) [@vontsira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/vontsira)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2014, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-the-man-in-the-high-castle-wanting-still-hope-for-me-re-philip-k-dick/701119/34 "2014-10-19T03:23:10Z")
> [@GovernmentMan](#): > > Why do you use semicolons so much when you’re not that familiar with their proper usage? Ah, **GovernmentMan** , go off and bloody play with yourself. I don’t want things to get uglier – I’m withdrawing completely from this scene for a while. ---
**Author:** ![E-DUB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/e-dub/32/403_2.png) [@E-DUB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/E-DUB)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2014, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-the-man-in-the-high-castle-wanting-still-hope-for-me-re-philip-k-dick/701119/35 "2014-10-19T03:32:19Z")
Also forget to recommend, and since no one has mentioned them, “Martian Time-slip” and “Time out of Joint”. ---
**Author:** ![twickster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ec9cab/32.png) [@twickster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/twickster)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2014, 2:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-the-man-in-the-high-castle-wanting-still-hope-for-me-re-philip-k-dick/701119/36 "2014-10-19T14:25:58Z")
> [@GovernmentMan](#): > > Are you a native English speaker? Your writing is weird and full of errors. > [@vontsira](#): > > Are you naturally an obnoxious prick, or did you have to work at it? > [@GovernmentMan](#): > > What? I’m just saying you’re trying to write all fancy with semicolons and words like “hitherto” and “enthuse” and it just comes out either wrong or jarring. > [@vontsira](#): > > I had the impression that this was a discussion forum about mutual interests; not a class for people to try to improve their written-language skills. I quite often find posts on SDMB, whose written English grates on me – I’d thought, up to now, that the civil and polite thing to do in such circumstances, was to put up with it and say nothing – or if the particular poster’s language use is unendurable to the reader, just to skip over their posts. Your anger and hostility strike me as inappropriate for this particular scene – and if these three-and-a-bit lines are too “fancy” for your taste: that’s your problem. > [@GovernmentMan](#): > > Why do you use semicolons so much when you’re not that familiar with their proper usage? > [@vontsira](#): > > Ah, **GovernmentMan** , go off and bloody play with yourself. I don’t want things to get uglier – I’m withdrawing completely from this scene for a while. **GovernmentMan** , I’ve given you a warning for being a jerk starting this squabble with an obnoxious off-topic comment, and for following it up with two more. **vontsira** , you shouldn’t call someone an obnoxious prick, even when provoked. Your proper move would have been to report **GM** ’s post for mod attention, or to take it to the Pit. I’m going to let it slide, based on provocation, but pls. remember that for the future. **twickster** , Cafe Society moderator ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2014, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-the-man-in-the-high-castle-wanting-still-hope-for-me-re-philip-k-dick/701119/37 "2014-10-19T18:15:10Z")
> [@Baal\_Houtham](#): > > i can’t see that. Most of his output is funny, fast-moving, and smoothly written. A big reason he’s had multiple stories made into films is because he’s a fun, easy read. Heh. Nice one. But seriously, it does raise a point, why DOES Hollywood love Dick? There are plenty of other SF writers who write fast-moving and smooth adventure stories that don’t get nearly as much attention from Hollywood as Dick does. My guess is that his regular theme of “Is this real-real or drug real” has a fundamental appeal to Hollywood, which LURVES that whole “Is this real” vibe. Also, Dick’s work, however badly written, DOES tend to make for a nice pitch: “Man gets company to alter his mind so he thinks he is a super secret agent on Mars as a sort of futuristic vacation, but is he REALLY a super secret on Mars whose “vacation” was actually him being activated from being a sleeper agent on Earth? Combines slam-bank action adventure with stuff about reality and identity the critics will eat up!” The real question, to my mind, is how Dick ever found a PUBLISHER. God, his books were awful. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2014, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-the-man-in-the-high-castle-wanting-still-hope-for-me-re-philip-k-dick/701119/38 "2014-10-19T20:57:04Z")
[/quote] none of whom I found sympathetic or could strongly identify with [/quote] I haven’t read the rest of this thread, but the above-quoted bit from the OP leads me to think Philip K. Dick is not the right author for them. Not that I think they’ll never find a character they will like or identify with, but rather, that characters aren’t really what there is to enjoy in Dick’s novels. Try VALIS though. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2014, 8:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-the-man-in-the-high-castle-wanting-still-hope-for-me-re-philip-k-dick/701119/39 "2014-10-19T20:59:08Z")
> [@njtt](#): > > _The Man in the High Castle_ is not typical Dick by any means. Mind you, pretty much all of Dick’s work is very flawed (for one thing, he couldn’t write a decent, satisfying, ending, that ties up even a significant fraction of the loose ends, to save his life), but also original, distinctive, and brilliant. You might not like his stuff, but don’t judge him just by TMitHC. His short stories show that he could tie up all the loose ends, at least in the short story format. Possibly the novel format presented problems for him in this regard, but to be honest I had the impression he just wasn’t _concerned_ to tie up all the loose ends. ---
**Author:** ![Frylock](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/ce7236/32.png) [@Frylock](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Frylock)\ **Post date:** [October 19, 2014, 9:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-the-man-in-the-high-castle-wanting-still-hope-for-me-re-philip-k-dick/701119/40 "2014-10-19T21:01:01Z")
> [@vontsira](#): > > Valis is a trilogy, if I have things rightly No, it’s not really. They’re thematically related, somewhat, and even that is only insofar as they relate together parts of the biography of Dick himself. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-the-man-in-the-high-castle-wanting-still-hope-for-me-re-philip-k-dick/701119.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-the-man-in-the-high-castle-wanting-still-hope-for-me-re-philip-k-dick/701119.md?page=3)