# found wallet from the 70's **URL:** \ **Category:** Factual Questions\ **Created:** [January 12, 2007, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-wallet-from-the-70s/387659 "2007-01-12T03:35:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 20
**Author:** ![filmyak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@filmyak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmyak)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2008, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-wallet-from-the-70s/387659/381 "2008-01-19T20:16:20Z")
To pull a person’s report like that, they need to sign an approval form giving you permission to run their credit. At least to the best of my knowledge. I’m not particularly comfortable giving out someone else’s SS#… let’s give the SSA a chance to do their thing and if that doesn’t work, we can try the credit report. ---
**Author:** ![Walloon](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/fbc32d/32.png) [@Walloon](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Walloon)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2008, 8:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-wallet-from-the-70s/387659/382 "2008-01-19T20:20:24Z")
[QUOTE=filmyak] To pull a person’s report like that, they need to sign an approval form giving you permission to run their credit. [/QUOTE] _He_ needs to. Who are “they”? The credit bureau? ---
**Author:** ![Gfactor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/9de053/32.png) [@Gfactor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gfactor)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2008, 8:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-wallet-from-the-70s/387659/383 "2008-01-19T20:47:04Z")
> [@](#): > > (2) Disclosure to consumer > (A) In general > Except as provided in subparagraph (B), a person **may not procure a consumer report, or cause a consumer report to be procured, for employment purposes with respect to any consumer, unless** — > (i) \*\*a clear and conspicuous disclosure has been made in writing \*\* to the consumer at any time before the report is procured or caused to be procured, in a document that consists solely of the disclosure, that a consumer report may be obtained for employment purposes; **and** > (ii) **the consumer has authorized in writing (which authorization may be made on the document referred to in clause (i)) the procurement of the report by that person.** > (B) Application by mail, telephone, computer, or other similar means > If a consumer described in subparagraph (C) applies for employment by mail, telephone, computer, or other similar means, at any time before a consumer report is procured or caused to be procured in connection with that application— > (i) the person who procures the consumer report on the consumer for employment purposes shall provide to the consumer, by oral, written, or electronic means, notice that a consumer report may be obtained for employment purposes, and a summary of the consumer’s rights under section 1681m (a)(3) of this title; and > (ii) the consumer shall have consented, orally, in writing, or electronically to the procurement of the report by that person. > **[15 U.S. Code § 1681b - Permissible purposes of consumer reports](https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/15/1681b)** So you’ve given Mr. Ivens the required disclosure and obtained his consent? While he was completing the application, you migh have mentioned his lost wallet. 😉 If you were to pull the report under false pretenses, of course, you’d be subject to prosecution: > [@](#): > > § 1681q. Obtaining information under false pretenses > Any person who knowingly and willfully obtains information on a consumer from a consumer reporting agency under false pretenses shall be fined under title 18, imprisoned for not more than 2 years, or both. [15 U.S. Code § 1681q - Obtaining information under false pretenses | U.S. Code | US Law | LII / Legal Information Institute](http://www4.law.cornell.edu/uscode/uscode15/usc_sec_15_00001681---q000-.html) ---
**Author:** ![filmyak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@filmyak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmyak)\ **Post date:** [January 19, 2008, 9:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-wallet-from-the-70s/387659/384 "2008-01-19T21:37:20Z")
[QUOTE=Walloon] _He_ needs to. Who are “they”? The credit bureau? [/QUOTE] They refers to the person who’s report you are accessing. Poor grammar? Perhaps. Still not something you can do without the subject’s consent, as Gfactor noted. ---
**Author:** ![Siam\_Sam](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/d78d45/32.png) [@Siam\_Sam](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Siam_Sam)\ **Post date:** [January 20, 2008, 2:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-wallet-from-the-70s/387659/385 "2008-01-20T02:07:56Z")
[QUOTE=Bosda Di’Chi of Tricor] We _ **must** _ find this person!!! [/QUOTE] Or at least his Ford. ---
**Author:** ![tygerbryght](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/a9a28c/32.png) [@tygerbryght](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tygerbryght)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-wallet-from-the-70s/387659/386 "2008-01-21T00:42:48Z")
[QUOTE=filmyak] You know, I was wondering the exact same thing… Then again, in regards to the first part, I have a friend who works at the patent office. He says it takes about 3 hours/day for him to meet his quota of work. For the remaining 7 hours, he surfs the web, goofs off, etc. Says as long as you do your quote you can’t be fired, and there’s absolutely zero incentive to do more work. You don’t get promoted, no raise, etc, so no reason to do more than you have to. I assume the Soc Sec Admin works the same way. So, 4 months later… [/QUOTE] Clearly your friend has a different job from my friend who works at the patent office. My friend is a patent reviewer, and he works many more than 40 hours most weeks just trying to keep up with his work load. Or maybe he’s doing part of your friend’s workload? :rolleyes: Reviewers are assigned so many cases per week/month (whatever; he explained it to me a long time ago). They have to review them, write analyses and reports, tell applicants when something needs more evidence or whatever. I wouldn’t have N’s job on a bet. And that position requires graduate education (he has a doctorate in a science, and is neither lazy nor slow). ---
**Author:** ![Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bosda_di_chi_of_tricor/32/16845_2.png) [@Bosda\_Di\_Chi\_of\_Tricor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosda_Di_Chi_of_Tricor)\ **Post date:** [January 21, 2008, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-wallet-from-the-70s/387659/387 "2008-01-21T02:10:54Z")
I work for State Government, & I have had experiences like those **filmyak** describes, and like those **tygerbryght** suggests. It varies between jobs, Departments, Administrations, & even if you get a new Departmental Commissioner. Sometimes buried under insane amounts of work, sometimes idle. Social Service gigs tend towards the “overworked” end of things. ---
**Author:** ![gotpasswords](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/c57346/32.png) [@gotpasswords](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gotpasswords)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2008, 9:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-wallet-from-the-70s/387659/388 "2008-01-24T21:17:04Z")
Hot off the AP wire: [Lost wallet reunited with owner 33 years later](http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/01/24/BA83UKDN3.DTL) ---
**Author:** ![filmyak](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/94ad74/32.png) [@filmyak](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/filmyak)\ **Post date:** [January 24, 2008, 9:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-wallet-from-the-70s/387659/389 "2008-01-24T21:51:47Z")
[QUOTE=gotpasswords] Hot off the AP wire: [Lost wallet reunited with owner 33 years later](http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/c/a/2008/01/24/BA83UKDN3.DTL) [/QUOTE] Yeah, I contacted several press outlets and they all ignored me. Apparently it’s only a story once the wallet is found. Hey, they won’t help me find the guy? They can kiss my ass when they come to me for quotes once (if) the wallet makes it back to Mr. Ivens. ---
**Author:** ![curlcoat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ea5d25/32.png) [@curlcoat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/curlcoat)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 7:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-wallet-from-the-70s/387659/390 "2008-03-05T07:34:12Z")
Hi all - new here. I finally signed in as a guest just to post in this thread. I read the whole thing and apparently there was no response to the letter to the Long Beach address? If you want to send it to me, I’ll drive up there and look/ask/whatever you want me to do. This must be resolved! \ ---
**Author:** ![bbs2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e495f1/32.png) [@bbs2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bbs2k)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 7:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-wallet-from-the-70s/387659/391 "2008-03-05T07:35:26Z")
What a guy! ---
**Author:** ![A.R.Cane](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ee7513/32.png) [@A.R.Cane](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/A.R.Cane)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 7:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-wallet-from-the-70s/387659/392 "2008-03-05T07:39:59Z")
[QUOTE=curlcoat] Hi all - new here. I finally signed in as a guest just to post in this thread. I read the whole thing and apparently there was no response to the letter to the Long Beach address? If you want to send it to me, I’ll drive up there and look/ask/whatever you want me to do. This must be resolved! \ [/QUOTE] The obvious question is: What qualifies you to do anyhing that hasn’t already been done? ---
**Author:** ![bbs2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e495f1/32.png) [@bbs2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bbs2k)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 8:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-wallet-from-the-70s/387659/393 "2008-03-05T08:06:16Z")
We’ve had someone already knock on the door before? ---
**Author:** ![Tristan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tristan/32/18058_2.png) [@Tristan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tristan)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-wallet-from-the-70s/387659/394 "2008-03-05T13:12:52Z")
Every time this thread gets bumped, I get a little giddy. Every time this thread gets bumped without being resolved, I die a little inside. ---
**Author:** ![Sigene](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/df788c/32.png) [@Sigene](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sigene)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 1:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-wallet-from-the-70s/387659/395 "2008-03-05T13:26:32Z")
That should ever this situation have a favorable outcome, that a new thread be created stating such. Thereby letting me ignore this thread when I see it pop up again. Do I have a second? Of perhaps we can lock this one up and have a new one created should there ever be “Real” news. Moderators??? ---
**Author:** ![Nars\_Glinley](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/nars_glinley/32/8177_2.png) [@Nars\_Glinley](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nars_Glinley)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-wallet-from-the-70s/387659/396 "2008-03-05T14:00:45Z")
[QUOTE=Tristan] Every time this thread gets bumped, I get a little giddy. Every time this thread gets bumped without being resolved, I die a little inside. [/QUOTE] By my calculations, you should be about 98% dead. ---
**Author:** ![Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/e480ec/32.png) [@Least\_Original\_User\_Name\_Ever](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Least_Original_User_Name_Ever)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 2:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-wallet-from-the-70s/387659/397 "2008-03-05T14:21:36Z")
[QUOTE=KRM] By my calculations, you should be about 98% dead. [/QUOTE] Well, he’s not _quite_ dead yet. ---
**Author:** ![bbs2k](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e495f1/32.png) [@bbs2k](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bbs2k)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 2:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-wallet-from-the-70s/387659/398 "2008-03-05T14:35:32Z")
[QUOTE=Least Original User Name Ever] Well, he’s not _quite_ dead yet. [/QUOTE] Are you suggesting we kill it ourselves? ---
**Author:** ![Great\_Dave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/46a35a/32.png) [@Great\_Dave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Dave)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 2:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-wallet-from-the-70s/387659/399 "2008-03-05T14:39:54Z")
Seconded. ---
**Author:** ![brewha](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/91b2a8/32.png) [@brewha](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/brewha)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2008, 2:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-wallet-from-the-70s/387659/400 "2008-03-05T14:40:47Z")
[QUOTE=Tristan] Every time this thread gets bumped, I get a little giddy. Every time this thread gets bumped without being resolved, I die a little inside. [/QUOTE] There’s been a couple of times that this thread has been bumped because someone asked if it had been resolved yet. Grrrr! I 2nd that this thread be locked and a new thread opened with the title **Donald Eugene Ivens Found!** if he is indeed found (and if that is his name I’m going from memory here). [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-wallet-from-the-70s/387659.md?page=19) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/found-wallet-from-the-70s/387659.md?page=21)