# Founder of mortgage robo-signing firm indicted.

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**Created:** [February 8, 2012, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/founder-of-mortgage-robo-signing-firm-indicted/612147 "2012-02-08T01:44:34Z")\
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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [February 8, 2012, 1:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/founder-of-mortgage-robo-signing-firm-indicted/612147/1 "2012-02-08T01:44:34Z")

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[http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-02-07/lender-processing-unit-docx-indicted-in-missouri-for-forgery.html](http://www.businessweek.com/news/2012-02-07/lender-processing-unit-docx-indicted-in-missouri-for-forgery.html)

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> A grand jury in Columbia, Missouri, handed down the 136- count indictment against Docx and founder Lorraine Brown alleging that a person whose name appears on 68 notarized deeds of release didn’t actually sign the paperwork, Chris Koster, the state’s attorney general, said in a statement yesterday.
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> “When you sign your name to a legal document, it matters,” Koster said. “Mass-producing fraudulent signatures on millions of real estate documents across America constitutes forgery.”

It will be interesting to see how this goes.

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**Author:** ![Nobody](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/94ad74/32.png) [@Nobody](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nobody)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 8:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/founder-of-mortgage-robo-signing-firm-indicted/612147/2 "2012-02-09T08:47:34Z")

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Last night I was hearing how a lot of states are settling with banks. The banks give billions of dollars to the states, get broad immunity, and even though they may be pressured to to modify loans, they get to call most of the shots concerning the modifications. [cite](http://www.npr.org/2012/02/08/146585967/states-debate-foreclosure-robo-signing-settlement)

I’m not surprised that money can buy you immunity, but I hope that at least Lorraine Brown, and hopefully more people, don’t get off from criminal charges.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 11:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/founder-of-mortgage-robo-signing-firm-indicted/612147/3 "2012-02-09T11:54:03Z")

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It sounds like the banks would get immunity from individual lawsuits. I have to wonder if that’s even legal.

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**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/founder-of-mortgage-robo-signing-firm-indicted/612147/4 "2012-02-09T13:48:45Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> It sounds like the banks would get immunity from individual lawsuits. I have to wonder if that’s even legal.

Maybe it’s legal if the states sign on our behalf. 😉

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/founder-of-mortgage-robo-signing-firm-indicted/612147/5 "2012-02-09T15:17:03Z")

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I wonder if they’ll go after the lawyers who did sign these things without reading them.

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**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 3:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/founder-of-mortgage-robo-signing-firm-indicted/612147/6 "2012-02-09T15:21:11Z")

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I don’t have any cites handy but I don’t think lawyers are signing these things. Supposedly they’ve been hiring unskilled labor to sign the same fake name to document after document after document.

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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [February 9, 2012, 3:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/founder-of-mortgage-robo-signing-firm-indicted/612147/7 "2012-02-09T15:38:29Z")

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> [@davidm](#):
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> I don’t have any cites handy but I don’t think lawyers are signing these things. Supposedly they’ve been hiring unskilled labor to sign the same fake name to document after document after document.

I was talking about the cases where lawyers did sign, without reading what they’ve signed. I am aware of a lawyer who has been doing that for at least 20 years now. I don’t know what the law is here, but I was under the impression the lawyer wasn’t supposed to be just slapping a signature on, but attesting to the validity of the documents.
