# Fourteen year old girls smuggling grapefruits in bikinis **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [April 16, 2003, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourteen-year-old-girls-smuggling-grapefruits-in-bikinis/169204 "2003-04-16T23:40:06Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Badtz\_Maru](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e36b37/32.png) [@Badtz\_Maru](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Badtz_Maru)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2003, 3:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourteen-year-old-girls-smuggling-grapefruits-in-bikinis/169204/21 "2003-04-17T03:37:43Z")
I would give you the three-finger rule, but then I met that extremely tight 22 year old… ---
**Author:** ![John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/2bfe46/32.png) [@John\_Carter\_of\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Carter_of_Mars)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2003, 3:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourteen-year-old-girls-smuggling-grapefruits-in-bikinis/169204/22 "2003-04-17T03:42:27Z")
I think **Astro** s’ ankle idea is a whoosh. Right Astro? As to the OP, you can’t tell very well. I was in a lounge Saturday night. They checked IDs very carefully, and gave everyone 21 and over a red wrist band. There were a bunch of girls in there with the wristbands that looked about 14 or 15 to me, so this problem works both ways. Ya’ pays your money and ya’ takes your chances. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![sivispacem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b19c9b/32.png) [@sivispacem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sivispacem)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2003, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourteen-year-old-girls-smuggling-grapefruits-in-bikinis/169204/23 "2003-04-17T03:52:43Z")
Thanks astro, there goes my whoosh cherry… ---
**Author:** ![Searching\_For\_Truth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/4da419/32.png) [@Searching\_For\_Truth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Searching_For_Truth)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2003, 4:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourteen-year-old-girls-smuggling-grapefruits-in-bikinis/169204/24 "2003-04-17T04:05:24Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by irishgirl \* > **jeez… > what kind of 14 year olds do you know? > when i was 14 the idea of going with anyone older than 16 was icky.** Oh, come on. You didn’t know 14-year-olds who were trying to score with college guys? Freshman showing up at booze parties trying to do their best to get in good with the top football players? There are _so_ many teen girls I know that look and act older than they really are that I find your incredulous question hard to believe.\* Hope you were joking. I’m not talking out of my ass here, because I’ve been going to school with this kind of girl for the past 12 years. \*Those kind of girls, who try to look and act substantially older than they really are, usually use it to get into trouble. Not the kind you want to mess with. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2003, 12:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourteen-year-old-girls-smuggling-grapefruits-in-bikinis/169204/25 "2003-04-17T12:42:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by John Carter of Mars \* > \*\*I think **Astro** s’ ankle idea is a whoosh. Right Astro? > > As to the OP, you can’t tell very well. I was in a lounge Saturday night. They checked IDs very carefully, and gave everyone 21 and over a red wrist band. There were a bunch of girls in there with the wristbands that looked about 14 or 15 to me, so this problem works both ways. > > Ya’ pays your money and ya’ takes your chances. 😃 \*\* No it’s not. To be specific the “ankle thing” was told to me in all seriousness by an Ocean City policeman who used it to make a quick estimate as to whether young girls were underage or not in bars and various other adult venues and clubs etc. where they did not belong. He didn’t say it was foolproof but it was a useful and relatively accurate indicator if the rest of the package was dressed up and made up. The only way he described it was that ankles don’t really lose their “little girl” look until a woman is at least 18-21 or so. I’m not an ankle afficianado but I assume he was talking about either shapeliness or maybe there is still some thickness, “straightness” or chubbiness there a trained eye can discern. ---
**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2003, 12:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourteen-year-old-girls-smuggling-grapefruits-in-bikinis/169204/26 "2003-04-17T12:57:39Z")
If the indicator is all that useful you’d think it would be more widely known. ---
**Author:** ![astro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/9dc877/32.png) [@astro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/astro)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2003, 1:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourteen-year-old-girls-smuggling-grapefruits-in-bikinis/169204/27 "2003-04-17T13:11:32Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Evil Captor \* > \*\*If the indicator is all that useful you’d think it would be more widely known. \*\* In thinking about it some more it does occur to me that as a girl/woman ages between 14-21 her ankles become noticeably more umm… “tendony” and the tendons stick out more whereas in younger girls they are not as prominent. This also happens with hands. Maybe that’s what he’s referring to. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2003, 1:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourteen-year-old-girls-smuggling-grapefruits-in-bikinis/169204/28 "2003-04-17T13:14:11Z")
You dip her in water, and if she turns green, she’s underage, and if she turns blue, she’s overage. If she turns white, she’s drowning, so better be careful. ---
**Author:** ![sivispacem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b19c9b/32.png) [@sivispacem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sivispacem)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2003, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourteen-year-old-girls-smuggling-grapefruits-in-bikinis/169204/29 "2003-04-17T13:43:59Z")
Hhmmm… looks like the old whoosh cherry might still be intact… sorry for the unjust accusation astro, there is certainly something in the hand observation, so maybe tendons really are the kicker. ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2003, 3:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourteen-year-old-girls-smuggling-grapefruits-in-bikinis/169204/30 "2003-04-17T15:29:02Z")
If her name is Deloris, leave her alone. ---
**Author:** ![Davebear](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/bcef8e/32.png) [@Davebear](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Davebear)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2003, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourteen-year-old-girls-smuggling-grapefruits-in-bikinis/169204/31 "2003-04-17T17:02:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Searching For Truth \* > > > [@](#): > > > > _Originally posted by irishgirl_ > > **jeez… > > what kind of 14 year olds do you know? > > when i was 14 the idea of going with anyone older than 16 was icky.** > > \*_Oh, come on. You didn’t know 14-year-olds who were trying to score with college guys? Freshman showing up at booze parties trying to do their best to get in good with the top football players? There are so many teen girls I know that look and act older than they really are that I find your incredulous question hard to believe._ Hope you were joking. I’m not talking out of my ass here, because I’ve been going to school with this kind of girl for the past 12 years. > > \*Those kind of girls, who try to look and act substantially older than they really are, usually use it to get into trouble. Not the kind you want to mess with. \*\* Now, now, ladies! Can’t have two of my favorite women fighting over something like _this._ If you’re going to fight, A) I’ll pay you each $5,000 for the video rights, and B) it should be over a fight over me. 😉 **SFT** has a fiesty side! Cool. 🙂 I think the phenomenon we’re talking about is probably much more common in the US, than in Ireland. And, just because **irishgirl** doesn’t have the _ahem_ good taste to prefer older men, doesn’t mean she’s in denial. I doubt young Irish girls are assaulted by the Hollywood/Wall Street double-team of glitz and glamour to anywhere near the extent our girls are. It definitely DOES happen, here, though. I’ve seen 15 year olds who could pass for 30. And, personally, I don’t blame any man (or woman) for gazing longingly at any girl who is presenting herself as sexually active and seductively dressed. That includes girls wearing teeny bikinis and thongs to the beach. There _are_ other styles they could be wearing. Acting upon that visual invitation is another matter, however. ---
**Author:** ![sivispacem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b19c9b/32.png) [@sivispacem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/sivispacem)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2003, 8:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourteen-year-old-girls-smuggling-grapefruits-in-bikinis/169204/32 "2003-04-17T20:32:44Z")
Girls in Ireland don’t go for older guys?? Damn, I love freckles, and I rreeaaaalllyy love the accent!! ---
**Author:** ![Zebra](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/c0e974/32.png) [@Zebra](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zebra)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2003, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourteen-year-old-girls-smuggling-grapefruits-in-bikinis/169204/33 "2003-04-17T20:44:57Z")
On the one hand you can look at their hips. A 14 years olds hips will not have spread out and from below the chest their lines go straight up and down. Or on the other hand just talk to them. That is not against the law and if they are too young don’t date them. Talking to them will probably make their summer. ---
**Author:** ![UrbanChic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/9dc877/32.png) [@UrbanChic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UrbanChic)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2003, 9:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourteen-year-old-girls-smuggling-grapefruits-in-bikinis/169204/34 "2003-04-17T21:00:44Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by sivispacem \* > **what’s the best way to judge the age of a girl** Cut her in half and count the rings. ---
**Author:** ![merge](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/9f8e36/32.png) [@merge](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/merge)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2003, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourteen-year-old-girls-smuggling-grapefruits-in-bikinis/169204/35 "2003-04-17T21:09:07Z")
well… if she looks old enoug… “but officer… she showed me an ID that said she was 18” but seriously… don’t F her on the beach… ask her to go out later to a club that does not allow anyone under 18 in… if you don’t have any of those around… try a rated R movie… lol… ---
**Author:** ![mack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/b19c9b/32.png) [@mack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mack)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2003, 9:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourteen-year-old-girls-smuggling-grapefruits-in-bikinis/169204/36 "2003-04-17T21:48:53Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by irishgirl \* > \*\*think outside the box. \*\* The best advice yet. ---
**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\ **Post date:** [April 17, 2003, 11:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourteen-year-old-girls-smuggling-grapefruits-in-bikinis/169204/37 "2003-04-17T23:02:11Z")
This guy sells me a magic frog. The magic frog says to me on the golf course, “Use your 5 iron.” I use my 5 iron and get a hole in one. A thought sprung up in my mind: _Casino!_ Magic frog says, “Play the third slot machine from the left.” Jackpot! $475.25! Magic frog says, “Put it all on 32 red.” 32 red! $27,000.00! Magic frog says, “Stay at 19.” House hits on 15, then draws a Queen. $5,700,000.00! I take my winnings and magic frog up to penthouse suite of the hotel/casino. I pour myself a drink. I wonder what to do for the frog. So, I fill up the tub and let the frog hop in. At the touch of water, the magic frog turns into a gorgeous, nubile, completely nude, yet only fifteen year old girl. I was shocked. Then the police came in. And I swear, Your Honor, that’s how she got into my hotel room! ---
**Author:** ![Atrael](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/6a8cbe/32.png) [@Atrael](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Atrael)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2003, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourteen-year-old-girls-smuggling-grapefruits-in-bikinis/169204/38 "2003-04-18T15:02:44Z")
Ok NCB, that was funny. ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2003, 4:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourteen-year-old-girls-smuggling-grapefruits-in-bikinis/169204/39 "2003-04-18T16:21:54Z")
“How old are you?” “Eighteen.” “What year were you born?” “…1981.” “:knowing grin: How old are you? Nobody has to think about what year they were born.” - _Queer as Folk_ (British version) ---
**Author:** ![Fretful\_Porpentine](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fretful_porpentine/32/2873_2.png) [@Fretful\_Porpentine](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fretful_Porpentine)\ **Post date:** [April 18, 2003, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourteen-year-old-girls-smuggling-grapefruits-in-bikinis/169204/40 "2003-04-18T17:02:55Z")
> [@](#): > > -she was wearing flipflops with her sundress instead of sexy shoes > -her ass was very high up. Not too many women in their 20s still have asses that high and hips as narrow as hers without being bony at the same time and she wasn’t bony > -her skin was suspiciously smooth and when she took off her sunglasses I could see she had no make up on > -she fiddled around in certain way that made me think of a kid > -she was awkward in her speech. She asked me a bunch of questions about tween novels > -she met up with a 40ish woman who was very tall which made me think it was her mom even though the 40ish woman was white and the girl was pretty dark skinned. But seeing them together I put it all together. Well, shoot, I _thought_ I was a narrow-hipped, smooth-skinned, rather awkward 26-year-old who doesn’t wear makeup or sexy shoes and has quite a few 40ish colleagues, but now I am quite surprised to learn that I’m really 14. I think your best bet is to talk to them. Sure, they might lie, but it’s hard to _sustain_ a lie of that magnitude if you ask them enough questions about college or work or whatever they claim to be doing. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourteen-year-old-girls-smuggling-grapefruits-in-bikinis/169204.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourteen-year-old-girls-smuggling-grapefruits-in-bikinis/169204.md?page=3)