# FOURTH accident at the Broadway show Spiderman: Turn Off the Dark **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [December 21, 2010, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourth-accident-at-the-broadway-show-spiderman-turn-off-the-dark/564963 "2010-12-21T15:49:19Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 9
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 6:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourth-accident-at-the-broadway-show-spiderman-turn-off-the-dark/564963/161 "2011-02-28T06:24:37Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > Wow, only $30 for rear orchestra? I thought the tickets were starting at something like $70 or $80. How did you also get to switch seats? Were you with someone else who had that seat and you guys traded? Spider-Man sells rush seats each morning when the box office opens for $30 each. They’re all over the theatre, just whatever is available at the time. Usually very back of the Orchestra, box seats, or Balcony. There’s only a select number for sale each day, and it changes each time. Today they had at least 40 seats for sale, but on other days they’d have less than 20. I got there at 10:30am (box office opened at noon) and was 28th on line. > [@AnalogSignal](#): > > Why are you calling it a “book?” Because that is what the written story of a musical is called. Movies have screenplays. Musicals have books. ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 6:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourth-accident-at-the-broadway-show-spiderman-turn-off-the-dark/564963/162 "2011-02-28T06:32:02Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > How did you also get to switch seats? Were you with someone else who had that seat and you guys traded? Whoops, I forgot to answer this part. I had seen an empty seat up front before the show began. Seeing it was still unoccupied when intermission began, I moved up. I’ve done that many times before, the ushers don’t mind. Plus, the guy next to me in my original seat was becoming obnoxious. I don’t know if he had some kind of problems or what, but at one point he kind of stamped the floor really loudly and banged on the seat in front of him (annoying the people in that row as well.) Plus he kept speaking in Spanish at a regular volume to the woman next to him. (Just because you are speaking a different language doesn’t mean you can’t be heard!) ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slit](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/5daacb/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slit](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slit)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 7:05am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourth-accident-at-the-broadway-show-spiderman-turn-off-the-dark/564963/163 "2011-02-28T07:05:43Z")
Oh, cool. Lucky that you got such a cheap one even if it wasn’t such a great show. If more than one person espy the empty seat, how do they decide who gets it? ---
**Author:** ![Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/eyebrows_0f_doom/32/3119_2.png) [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Eyebrows_0f_Doom)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 7:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourth-accident-at-the-broadway-show-spiderman-turn-off-the-dark/564963/164 "2011-02-28T07:16:30Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slit](#): > > If more than one person espy the empty seat, how do they decide who gets it? Whoever’s the fastest! 😃 Heh, I’ve never actually had that happen. There was another empty seat next to mine that someone else moved to as well. ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2011, 7:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourth-accident-at-the-broadway-show-spiderman-turn-off-the-dark/564963/165 "2011-02-28T07:42:39Z")
> [@Eyebrows\_0f\_Doom](#): > > Because that is what the written story of a musical is called. Movies have screenplays. Musicals have books. Thanks, I didn’t know that. Reading up on this, I see “book” is related to “libretto” which make sense. ---
**Author:** ![AnalogSignal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/analogsignal/32/1085_2.png) [@AnalogSignal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AnalogSignal)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 4:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourth-accident-at-the-broadway-show-spiderman-turn-off-the-dark/564963/166 "2011-03-08T04:23:30Z")
**No more Taymor?** [‘Spider-Man’ Director May Face Her Own Exit](http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/08/theater/spider-man-director-faces-tough-choices-including-her-exit.html) > [@](#): > > “The people who spoke about the negotiations said that, throughout Monday, they were not sure if Ms. Taymor would stay or go as director…What is certain, the people said, was that the producers saw the potential for major changes to the musical, which they hope to mount for years in productions around the world, and that Ms. Taymor either needed to accept help in making those changes or face a different outcome, potentially her exit from the show.” ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourth-accident-at-the-broadway-show-spiderman-turn-off-the-dark/564963/167 "2011-03-08T06:44:26Z")
Wow, it sounds like they are going to bring a bunch of people in to “fix” the problems. That often leads to “Too many cooks in the kitchen”. Taymor needs to jump off the sinking ship while she can. ---
**Author:** ![DooWahDiddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e9bcb4/32.png) [@DooWahDiddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DooWahDiddy)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 6:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourth-accident-at-the-broadway-show-spiderman-turn-off-the-dark/564963/168 "2011-03-08T18:17:17Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > … Taymor needs to jump off the sinking ship while she can. But she’s the one who built the ship. I don’t think she’ll abandon it quite so easily. ---
**Author:** ![Voyager](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/voyager/32/133_2.png) [@Voyager](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Voyager)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 8:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourth-accident-at-the-broadway-show-spiderman-turn-off-the-dark/564963/169 "2011-03-08T20:13:29Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Wow, it sounds like they are going to bring a bunch of people in to “fix” the problems. That often leads to “Too many cooks in the kitchen”. Taymor needs to jump off the sinking ship while she can. They bring people in to fix shows all the time. The only surprise here is what is taking so long. There have been rumors about some other people - named - to be brought in. Perhaps Taymor was resisting. And she not only built the ship, it looks like she drilled a hole through the hull. ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 8:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourth-accident-at-the-broadway-show-spiderman-turn-off-the-dark/564963/170 "2011-03-08T20:57:35Z")
But it opens in a week. I think if I were anywhere near NY I’d have to see it, just because it seems like it would be such a spectacular failure. I wonder how much of the audience is going to be people like me. And how long the show can sustain itself on trainwreck spotters. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourth-accident-at-the-broadway-show-spiderman-turn-off-the-dark/564963/171 "2011-03-08T21:16:15Z")
> [@AnalogSignal](#): > > [‘Spider-Man’ Director May Face Her Own Exit](http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/08/theater/spider-man-director-faces-tough-choices-including-her-exit.html) _Face_ it? I think she’s got her whole head in, at this point. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [March 8, 2011, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourth-accident-at-the-broadway-show-spiderman-turn-off-the-dark/564963/172 "2011-03-08T22:47:44Z")
I think I’d rather be a drummer for Spinal Tap, as opposed to stuntman on this show. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 1:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourth-accident-at-the-broadway-show-spiderman-turn-off-the-dark/564963/173 "2011-03-09T01:20:56Z")
> [@amarinth](#): > > But it opens in a week. Nope. [It sounds like it’s going to be delayed for another three months or so while they make big changes.](http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/09/theater/09spider.html?hp) ---
**Author:** ![Annie-Xmas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/ecc23a/32.png) [@Annie-Xmas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie-Xmas)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourth-accident-at-the-broadway-show-spiderman-turn-off-the-dark/564963/174 "2011-03-09T14:12:52Z")
> [@Larry\_Mudd](#): > > _Face_ it? I think she’s got her whole head in, at this point. Taymor had her head up her ass the whole time. I posted earlier that she’ll never work on Broadway again. I wonder who keeps pouring money onto this blazing fire. ---
**Author:** ![garygnu](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/garygnu/32/2924_2.png) [@garygnu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/garygnu)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 3:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourth-accident-at-the-broadway-show-spiderman-turn-off-the-dark/564963/175 "2011-03-09T15:35:26Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > …I wonder who keeps pouring money onto this blazing fire. Max and Leo? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourth-accident-at-the-broadway-show-spiderman-turn-off-the-dark/564963/176 "2011-03-09T15:41:18Z")
[More about Taymor potentially leaving.](http://www.nytimes.com/2011/03/10/theater/julie-taymor-spider-man.html?hp) There were reports last night that she was out. The spokesman who usually says everything is fine - for example he still says there is no official delay for opening night - says he couldn’t confirm the reports she had quit. ---
**Author:** ![storyteller0910](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ecae2f/32.png) [@storyteller0910](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/storyteller0910)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 6:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourth-accident-at-the-broadway-show-spiderman-turn-off-the-dark/564963/177 "2011-03-09T18:43:06Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > Taymor had her head up her ass the whole time. I posted earlier that she’ll never work on Broadway again. I don’t know from the first part, but I’d be willing to bet a shiny nickel that you’re dead wrong about the second part. Julie Taymor has won two Tony Awards and been nominated for two (?) more. _Lion King_ has made a lot of people a lot of money. Someone will hire her again. ---
**Author:** ![DooWahDiddy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e9bcb4/32.png) [@DooWahDiddy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DooWahDiddy)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 7:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourth-accident-at-the-broadway-show-spiderman-turn-off-the-dark/564963/178 "2011-03-09T19:22:48Z")
> [@Annie-Xmas](#): > > Taymor had her head up her ass the whole time. I posted earlier that she’ll never work on Broadway again. Yeah, I don’t know why you keep spouting that nonsense. It sounds really, really dramatic and you don’t have anything to back it up with. Yes, I want people to stop getting hurt at the show. Yes, I think it’s a _huge_ mistake and think it’s probably horrible to sit through (full disclosure: I have not seen it). But is Julie Taymor going to be bagging groceries at Kroger’s next year? Hardly. People make mistakes. Even Stephen Sondheim wrote _Road Show_. The world goes on a-spinning. And she will find work after this. She just needs to let it go and move on, quickly. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourth-accident-at-the-broadway-show-spiderman-turn-off-the-dark/564963/179 "2011-03-09T19:34:27Z")
> [@storyteller0910](#): > > I don’t know from the first part, but I’d be willing to bet a shiny nickel that you’re dead wrong about the second part. Julie Taymor has won two Tony Awards and been nominated for two (?) more. _Lion King_ has made a lot of people a lot of money. Someone will hire her again. Yeah, these folks always land on their feet. Granted, the fall is still going to hurt and she’s not going to come out of it unscathed, but her career will survive. ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [March 9, 2011, 8:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourth-accident-at-the-broadway-show-spiderman-turn-off-the-dark/564963/180 "2011-03-09T20:42:36Z")
> [@DooWahDiddy](#): > > She just needs to let it go and move on, quickly. Next stop: _Oh, Two-and-a-half Men!_ [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourth-accident-at-the-broadway-show-spiderman-turn-off-the-dark/564963.md?page=8) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fourth-accident-at-the-broadway-show-spiderman-turn-off-the-dark/564963.md?page=10)