# Fox cancels Last Man on Earth AND Brooklyn Nine-Nine??

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**Created:** [May 10, 2018, 10:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-cancels-last-man-on-earth-and-brooklyn-nine-nine/813948 "2018-05-10T22:37:08Z")\
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**Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 9:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-cancels-last-man-on-earth-and-brooklyn-nine-nine/813948/21 "2018-05-11T21:09:58Z")

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> [@Mikemike2](#):
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> I’m a big fan of Brooklyn nine nine. I would love to see more seasons, but 5 years is a pretty decent run, and the show did not have great numbers, about 2 million viewers. Excellent stories, a lot of heart, and they did not seem to be running out of ideas. Recent cold opening clip - [Backstreet Boys](https://youtu.be/ffyKY3Dj5ZE)

This.  
I really like “Brooklyn 99.” Just thinking about Andre Braugher saying “Pain!” still makes me laugh.

But it wasn’t getting numbers so it wasn’t making money. It’s a business. There’s no good reason to continue along a path that you know is not going to turn a profit.

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**Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-cancels-last-man-on-earth-and-brooklyn-nine-nine/813948/22 "2018-05-11T21:22:48Z")

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Wikipedia says that Brooklyn Nine-Nine is produced by Universal Television. That’s a sister company to NBC and might be part of the problem. As I understand it, shows from a network’s own production companies are more profitable than ones from outside companies (because the money stays in house) and so they may be more willing to accept lower ratings in such cases.

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**Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-cancels-last-man-on-earth-and-brooklyn-nine-nine/813948/23 "2018-05-11T21:46:53Z")

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They’ve made 110 episodes of _Brooklyn Nine-Nine_. That’s good enough for the old syndication limit (100), never mind the modern limit (80). NBC-Univ. sold syndication rights to the first five seasons to TBS starting last fall. The TBS exec had had something to do with fostering the show to air.

I.e., while it has plenty of episodes, there doesn’t seem to be much demand for syndication. It has quite limited appeal. So why make more?

To me, the good news is that maybe Andre Braugher’s amazing talents will actually be put to good use.

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**Post date:** [May 11, 2018, 10:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-cancels-last-man-on-earth-and-brooklyn-nine-nine/813948/24 "2018-05-11T22:26:29Z")

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Well, they needed room for Last Man Standing and I don’t think they would go for having 2 Last Men.

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 3:20am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-cancels-last-man-on-earth-and-brooklyn-nine-nine/813948/25 "2018-05-12T03:20:14Z")

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> [@actualliberalnotoneofthose](#):
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> Well, they needed room for Last Man Standing and I don’t think they would go for having 2 Last Men.

I was upset enough about the 99 thing, and to hear today that Fox picked up Last Man Standing made it ten times worse. WHY?:eek:

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-cancels-last-man-on-earth-and-brooklyn-nine-nine/813948/26 "2018-05-12T04:33:20Z")

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Looks like NBC (owner of Brooklyn 99) decided to air it themselves!! 13 episode Sixth season!

> **[‘Brooklyn Nine-Nine’ to Continue on NBC](https://variety.com/2018/tv/news/brooklyn-nine-nine-nbc-1202808064/amp/?__twitter_impression=true)**
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> NBC has picked up “Brooklyn Nine-Nine” for a sixth season, the network announced Friday. The decision comes after the cop comedy was canceled at Fox after five seasons on Thursday. Prod…

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> [@tenacious\_j](#):
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> I was upset enough about the 99 thing, and to hear today that Fox picked up Last Man Standing made it ten times worse. WHY?:eek:

I know that hit the news after these cancellations, but I heard about them picking up Last Man Standing awhile back. WHY? indeed

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 8:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-cancels-last-man-on-earth-and-brooklyn-nine-nine/813948/28 "2018-05-12T08:56:29Z")

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> [@ISiddiqui](#):
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> Looks like NBC (owner of Brooklyn 99) decided to air it themselves!! 13 episode Sixth season!
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> [‘Brooklyn Nine-Nine’ to Continue on NBC](http://variety.com/2018/tv/news/brooklyn-nine-nine-nbc-1202808064/amp/?__twitter_impression=true)
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> Sent from my SM-G955U using Tapatalk

Yay!

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 9:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-cancels-last-man-on-earth-and-brooklyn-nine-nine/813948/29 "2018-05-12T09:35:18Z")

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I’m actually a little disappointed they managed to save the show. I feel like the characters have suffered from flanderization and the show has lost that realistic feel the early seasons. At least the cast and crew are getting work.

The Santiago/Peralta wedding would have been a perfect ending for the show.

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-cancels-last-man-on-earth-and-brooklyn-nine-nine/813948/30 "2018-05-12T13:43:38Z")

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NBC also picked up _Scrubs_ after ABC canceled it since it was one of their productions. Merely to pad the syndication count.

It did not go well. Budget cuts lead to many of the stars only appearing occasionally on the show and then it got even worse.

The 13 episode order says they will be cheapin’ out.

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 2:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-cancels-last-man-on-earth-and-brooklyn-nine-nine/813948/31 "2018-05-12T14:12:04Z")

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> [@ftg](#):
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> NBC also picked up _Scrubs_ after ABC canceled it since it was one of their productions. Merely to pad the syndication count.

Wiki says the opposite; NBC had it until they canceled it and ABC pulled it out of the water:

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> The seventh season of the American comedy television series Scrubs premiered on NBC on October 25, 2007 and concluded on May 8, 2008 and consists of 11 episodes. This was the final season to air on NBC after it was picked up by ABC.

Seasons 8 & 9 (the new cast season) were on ABC

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-cancels-last-man-on-earth-and-brooklyn-nine-nine/813948/32 "2018-05-12T16:10:42Z")

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So many rednecks must be dancing in the street over Last Man Standing, one of their big role models will still be on. Giving Roseanne a run for the money in tRump-licking. It was all over the FB news feed yesterday, right up there with North Korea and missing children stories. :mad:

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> [@Jophiel](#):
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> Wiki says the opposite; NBC had it until they canceled it and ABC pulled it out of the water:Seasons 8 & 9 (the new cast season) were on ABC

Thanks for the correction.

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 8:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-cancels-last-man-on-earth-and-brooklyn-nine-nine/813948/34 "2018-05-12T20:03:23Z")

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Apparently one more season at NBC.

> **[‘Brooklyn Nine-Nine’ Officially Revived at NBC](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/brooklyn-nine-nine-officially-revived-at-nbc-1111306/)**
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> The network’s studio counterpart Universal Television produces the show.

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 9:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-cancels-last-man-on-earth-and-brooklyn-nine-nine/813948/35 "2018-05-12T21:40:01Z")

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> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> I’m sure they’ll replace _Brooklyn 99_ with another heartwarming show full of smart-ass kids and idiot parents. There are never enough of _those_ on television!

They are freeing up room for their 5 year contract for Thursday night football.

> [@Cat\_Whisperer](#):
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> André Braugher is one of the funniest people on tv, PERIOD! I often had to pause watching “Brooklyn 99” to rewind something he had said or did because it was so funny. I tried to figure out what made him so funny - I think it’s because he understands that comedy is serious business - he’d say his lines dead straight, and he has a very serious face on top of that. It never failed to crack me up. 🙂

It’s been obvious to me since Homicide that André Braugher is one of the best actors in the world. Now he’s showing he can do comedy too.

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**Post date:** [May 12, 2018, 10:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-cancels-last-man-on-earth-and-brooklyn-nine-nine/813948/36 "2018-05-12T22:02:16Z")

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I get that the reason for cancelling these shows is because of Fox’s NFL contract. But the games will only be on a few days each year. The Hollywood Reporter says the contract “will take over more than 30 hours of space” and that the contract is for Thursday Night Football. So don’t they need programming for the rest of the week and the year? I mean, Brooklyn Nine-Nine and The Last Man on Earth were on Sunday nights most recently and The Mick was, I think, on Tuesday nights.

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I didn’t watch the other two but I will miss The Mick.

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> [@Loach](#):
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> \<snip\>  
> It’s been obvious to me since Homicide that André Braugher is one of the best actors in the world. Now he’s showing he can do comedy too.

I’ve noticed that comedians can usually do serious roles if they want to, but serious actors cannot necessarily do comedy. Andre Braugher is breaking that mold.

> [@Dewey\_Finn](#):
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> I get that the reason for cancelling these shows is because of Fox’s NFL contract. But the games will only be on a few days each year. The Hollywood Reporter says the contract “will take over more than 30 hours of space” and that the contract is for Thursday Night Football. So don’t they need programming for the rest of the week and the year? I mean, Brooklyn Nine-Nine and The Last Man on Earth were on Sunday nights most recently and The Mick was, I think, on Tuesday nights.

I wonder the same thing - networks have schedules chock full of garbage, and they have to cancel one 30 minute show to make room for something else? How about cancelling one 30 minute infomercial to make room for _Brooklyn 99_?

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Well, as to that, I don’t believe that they air thirty-minute infomercials during prime time.

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My guess is that it is probably less about freeing up time for Thursday night football and more about paying for Thursday night football. If these shows were earning a decent return on investment, they’d be renewed.

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