# Fox does it again -- Meet John McCain, D-AZ **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [February 8, 2008, 2:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-does-it-again-meet-john-mccain-d-az/436757 "2008-02-08T02:37:22Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2008, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-does-it-again-meet-john-mccain-d-az/436757/41 "2008-02-08T22:16:47Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] CNN [misidentified Osama as Obama](http://rawstory.com/news/2006/CNN_comments_on_Obama_gaffe_in_0101.html). CNN [shat all over](http://www.michaelmoore.com/sicko/news/article.php?id=10017) Michael Moore’s _Sicko_, partly by hiding Cuba’s number with a graphic. And it made up [a whole fairy tale](http://backissues.cjrarchives.org/year/98/5/cnn.asp) just to increase its ratings. Of course, I’m sure the gang will say none of that is very serious. [/QUOTE] [Here’s an apology from Wolf Blitzer](http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/01/02/cnn-apologizes-to-barack-obama/) for CNN’s gaff. Can you post a link of any apology or public acknowledgement from Faux News? ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2008, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-does-it-again-meet-john-mccain-d-az/436757/42 "2008-02-08T22:22:38Z")
[QUOTE=samclem] [Here’s an apology from Wolf Blitzer](http://www.crooksandliars.com/2007/01/02/cnn-apologizes-to-barack-obama/) for CNN’s gaff. Can you post a link of any apology or public acknowledgement from Faux News? [/QUOTE] [This site](http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/fnc/fnc_puts_mccain_in_the_democratic_party_76962.asp) says that Fox News told them it was “gross incompetence by a producer”. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2008, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-does-it-again-meet-john-mccain-d-az/436757/43 "2008-02-08T22:24:14Z")
[QUOTE=Fear Itself] Explain how that is mislabeled. [/QUOTE] It’s explained on the site. It covers up the numbers for Cuba. ETA: That’s Michael Moore’s own site. I thought you’d trust it. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2008, 10:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-does-it-again-meet-john-mccain-d-az/436757/44 "2008-02-08T22:29:02Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] It’s explained on the site. It covers up the numbers for Cuba. [/QUOTE] So CNN disses Obama and Moore? Can we now lay to rest the liberal bias canard? ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2008, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-does-it-again-meet-john-mccain-d-az/436757/45 "2008-02-08T22:34:44Z")
Sure. Can we take up the Jon Stewart cause that they all push daisies up our asses? Journalism has become as political as government, religion, the arts, science, and all the rest of it. I don’t trust any of them. In every case, the agenda is profit. ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2008, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-does-it-again-meet-john-mccain-d-az/436757/46 "2008-02-08T23:07:02Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] Sure. Can we take up the Jon Stewart cause that they all push daisies up our asses? [/QUOTE] Sure. But not here. Start your own thread. Nobody’s stopping you. ---
**Author:** ![Ignatz](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/3be4f8/32.png) [@Ignatz](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ignatz)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2008, 11:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-does-it-again-meet-john-mccain-d-az/436757/47 "2008-02-08T23:15:54Z")
[QUOTE=What Exit?] When you succeed, I will be happy to return, I officially left the party yesterday. I gave up the fight. Maybe we can resurrect the Bull-Moose Party? 😉 [/QUOTE] Let’s have a pahty! > **[Moose Mounts Bison Statue](https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/statutory-moose/)** > > Photograph shows a moose mounting a statue of a bison. There was some damage to the statue of the American Bison located in the Colorado Rockies. The attacker could not be dissuaded, and kept up his assault for eight hours. The incident even caused a traffic situation - gawkers! The damage consisted of: 1. The loss of about two inches from the left horn. 2. Hoof scratches on the side of the Bison. 3. Some chips in the right rear hoof. 4. Blood stains behind the Bison. The statue was also moved eight inches forward. Attempts to center the statue on the pedestal were made but to no avail. ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [February 8, 2008, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-does-it-again-meet-john-mccain-d-az/436757/48 "2008-02-08T23:53:28Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] [This site](http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/fnc/fnc_puts_mccain_in_the_democratic_party_76962.asp) says that Fox News told them it was “gross incompetence by a producer”. [/QUOTE] And my mother’s hairdresser said that her sister told her she heard that … Fox News has never apologized. And never will. ---
**Author:** ![JonScribe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3be4f8/32.png) [@JonScribe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JonScribe)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2008, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-does-it-again-meet-john-mccain-d-az/436757/49 "2008-02-09T16:55:17Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] [This site](http://www.mediabistro.com/tvnewser/fnc/fnc_puts_mccain_in_the_democratic_party_76962.asp) says that Fox News told them it was “gross incompetence by a producer”. [/QUOTE] Who was promptly promoted. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2008, 5:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-does-it-again-meet-john-mccain-d-az/436757/50 "2008-02-09T17:02:45Z")
[QUOTE=samclem] And my mother’s hairdresser said that her sister told her she heard that … Fox News has never apologized. And never will. [/QUOTE] Just to remind you of what you asked for, it was whether Fox News issued an “apology or public acknowledgement”. Did you intend something other than the ordinary meaning of “or”? ETA: Wait. Nevermind. I think I get it. You’re saying that the source is lying when it says that Fox News gave it that response, is that it? Tell you what. If this is gonna be one of those “gimme a source — no, gimme another source” games, you can just play by yourself. Fuck me for not realizing that in advance. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2008, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-does-it-again-meet-john-mccain-d-az/436757/51 "2008-02-09T17:26:25Z")
[QUOTE=samclem] Just to recount—HOW many times has Fox news put an **R** in front of an actual Democrat’s picture/name? Anyone? [/QUOTE] Far fewer than the number of times they’ve called Lieberman a Democrat, I’d expect. **Lib** , when you ain’t got shit, it’s best to simply acknowledge it, ya know? Or maybe ya don’t know. ---
**Author:** ![athelas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/5e9695/32.png) [@athelas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/athelas)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2008, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-does-it-again-meet-john-mccain-d-az/436757/52 "2008-02-09T17:52:31Z")
[QUOTE=JonScribe] Who was promptly promoted. [/QUOTE] You kidding? You can’t promote incompetents like that. You have to keep them in that position forever. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2008, 9:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-does-it-again-meet-john-mccain-d-az/436757/53 "2008-02-09T21:30:03Z")
The persons who were responsible for sacking the ones who were to have been sacked have, in fact, not been sacked. ---
**Author:** ![Jophiel](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jophiel/32/66_2.png) [@Jophiel](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jophiel)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2008, 10:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-does-it-again-meet-john-mccain-d-az/436757/54 "2008-02-09T22:32:08Z")
My personal favorite FOX “mislabelling” moment was when they invented [a whole new position](http://thinkprogress.org/2006/11/08/hastert-minority-speaker/) in Congress for the fallen Dennis Hastert. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2008, 10:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-does-it-again-meet-john-mccain-d-az/436757/55 "2008-02-09T22:41:27Z")
[QUOTE=ElvisL1ves] **Lib** , when you ain’t got shit, it’s best to simply acknowledge it, ya know? Or maybe ya don’t know. [/QUOTE] I guess by now I shouldn’t be surprised that you find Fox News’s parenthetical “(D)” more egregious than CNN’s complete fabrication of a non-story, responsibility for which went all the way up to Ted Turner. So I won’t be. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2008, 11:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-does-it-again-meet-john-mccain-d-az/436757/56 "2008-02-09T23:18:56Z")
Do I need to repeat myself? ---
**Author:** ![Fear\_Itself](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fear_itself/32/19637_2.png) [@Fear\_Itself](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fear_Itself)\ **Post date:** [February 9, 2008, 11:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-does-it-again-meet-john-mccain-d-az/436757/57 "2008-02-09T23:30:19Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] I guess by now I shouldn’t be surprised that you find Fox News’s parenthetical “(D)” more egregious than CNN’s complete fabrication of a non-story, responsibility for which went all the way up to Ted Turner. So I won’t be. [/QUOTE] And I shouldn’t be surprised when you try to shoehorn some unrelated instance of media bias into a thread about mislabeled chirons. This thread is not for dueling media biases; if it were, we would bury your paltry CNN cites under a blizzard of Faux News transgressions. If you have something to contribute that isn’t a hijack, you are wlecome to participate. Otherwise, you can just climb back up on your cross, and suck on your sponge. ---
**Author:** ![Shayna](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/shayna/32/17976_2.png) [@Shayna](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shayna)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2008, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-does-it-again-meet-john-mccain-d-az/436757/58 "2008-02-10T00:21:53Z")
All Headline News seems to think [McCain is a “Democratic hopeful”](http://www.allheadlinenews.com/articles/7009975261). > [@](#): > > Olympia, WA (AHN) - Sens. Barack Obama (D-IL) and John McCain (R-AZ) are Washington’s top Democratic hopefuls, according to the latest SurveyUSA poll. ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2008, 12:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-does-it-again-meet-john-mccain-d-az/436757/59 "2008-02-10T00:35:55Z")
That isn’t necessarily a false statement. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![samclem](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a9a28c/32.png) [@samclem](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/samclem)\ **Post date:** [February 10, 2008, 1:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-does-it-again-meet-john-mccain-d-az/436757/60 "2008-02-10T01:13:14Z")
[QUOTE=Liberal] Just to remind you of what you asked for, it was whether Fox News issued an “apology or public acknowledgement”. Did you intend something other than the ordinary meaning of “or”? ETA: Wait. Nevermind. I think I get it. You’re saying that the source is lying when it says that Fox News gave it that response, is that it? Tell you what. If this is gonna be one of those “gimme a source — no, gimme another source” games, you can just play by yourself. Fuck me for not realizing that in advance. [/QUOTE] Some of us will take it on faith, and some won’t. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-does-it-again-meet-john-mccain-d-az/436757.md?page=2)