# Fox "news" and Christianity **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [April 2, 2004, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-and-christianity/237817 "2004-04-02T00:13:17Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 16\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-and-christianity/237817/41 "2004-04-03T17:16:47Z")
> [@John Mace](#): > > If so, then this thread brings all of your posts into question. I don’t recall Clayton claiming to be an unbiased news source. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 5:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-and-christianity/237817/42 "2004-04-03T17:18:55Z")
But if Mr. Smith is himself biased, what’s he doing pointing a finger at Mr. Jones and calling him biased? Isn’t that kind of like Jeffrey Dahmer calling John Wayne Gacy perverted? ---
**Author:** ![Tanach](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/8edcca/32.png) [@Tanach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tanach)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-and-christianity/237817/43 "2004-04-03T17:45:28Z")
Just a general question, why aren’t there specials (be they Fox News or otherwise) detailing the life and times of Mohammed or Budha, or Moses (probably has been a Moses)? Wouldn’t the definition of unbiased be a three part series on Jesus, Moses, and Mohammed? ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-and-christianity/237817/44 "2004-04-03T18:44:51Z")
> [@Libertarian](#): > > But if Mr. Smith is himself biased, what’s he doing pointing a finger at Mr. Jones and calling him biased? Isn’t that kind of like Jeffrey Dahmer calling John Wayne Gacy perverted? No, it’s like a Gentile noticing that the ostentatiously observant Jew is sneaking a ham sandwich. ---
**Author:** ![beajerry](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7bcc69/32.png) [@beajerry](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/beajerry)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 10:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-and-christianity/237817/45 "2004-04-03T22:43:05Z")
Hey, Bill O’Reilly would be more than happy to enlighten you on the teachings of Jesus. _Don’t judge others lest you be judged. Oh wait, judgement’s at the end of the book. Go ahead then._ ---
**Author:** ![labmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f19dbf/32.png) [@labmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/labmonkey)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 11:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-and-christianity/237817/46 "2004-04-03T23:28:42Z")
Oh boy, lefties crowing about Fox news! And, as someone else already mentioned, they do have poopy-pants. Of course they’re of the conservative bent, yet deny it, probably don’t even realize it just like Peter, Dan, and the other guy don’t realize how the CBS. ABC and NBC newsrooms are practically bedwetting bastions of liberalism. They’re just _right._ Everyone else is either a left/right wing nut. Why does it bother you guys so much to have news of a right handed(as opposed to the standard lefty) slant on? I highly recommend that whistle blower Bernie Golberg’s book, _Bias_. Get a little perspective. Besides, someone’s obviously watching, you know, asses in the seats and all. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 11:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-and-christianity/237817/47 "2004-04-03T23:35:42Z")
> [@matt\_mcl](#): > > No, it’s like a Gentile noticing that the ostentatiously observant Jew is sneaking a ham sandwich. Sorry, I don’t follow. Are you saying that bias is bad only when conservatives do it, but it’s okay for liberals to be biased, just like Gentiles can eat ham? ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 3, 2004, 11:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-and-christianity/237817/48 "2004-04-03T23:48:10Z")
Maybe **matt’s** point was that Fox constantly asserts it own objectivity (“fair and balanced,” “we report, you decide,” etc.) so perhaps their bias is more hypocritical. I do think that Fox is hypocritical, biased and dumbed-down as hell but the Jesus specials are a staple of televison across the board and FNC is no more hypocritical or glurgy or biased than anyone else in that regard. There are much better reasons to go after Fox. ---
**Author:** ![rjung](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/45deac/32.png) [@rjung](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rjung)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 12:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-and-christianity/237817/49 "2004-04-04T00:12:33Z")
> [@labmonkey](#): > > Of course they’re of the conservative bent, yet deny it, probably don’t even realize it just like Peter, Dan, and the other guy don’t realize how the CBS. ABC and NBC newsrooms are practically bedwetting bastions of liberalism. Yeah, the major media outlets are so liberal-oriented that they’ve been harping on Bush’s 9/11 failures since 2002, when the failings first came to light. Oh, wait, they _haven’t_… > [@labmonkey](#): > > I highly recommend that whistle blower Bernie Golberg’s book, _Bias_. And I recommend Al Franken’s **Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them,** particularly the chapter entitled “I Bitch-Slap Bernie Goldberg.” Amazingly enough, Bernie still hasn’t been able to prove Al was wrong about Bernie’s own biases… ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 12:24am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-and-christianity/237817/50 "2004-04-04T00:24:17Z")
> [@Libertarian](#): > > Sorry, I don’t follow. Are you saying that bias is bad only when conservatives do it, but it’s okay for liberals to be biased, just like Gentiles can eat ham? No, you ninny; what Diogenes said. News sources, particularly those that constantly trumpet that they lack bias, are expected to be unbiased. Individual people aren’t; after all, to hold an opinion is to be biased. Clayton is not a news source. ---
**Author:** ![leander](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/bcef8e/32.png) [@leander](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/leander)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 12:50am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-and-christianity/237817/51 "2004-04-04T00:50:52Z")
I think one of the biggest problems, aside from the obvious hypocrisy and bias, is that Fox News is so damn _divisive_. You are either right or wrong, and fuck you if you’re wrong…you’re practically aiding the enemy. :rolleyes: Considering the current split in this country, feeding off of that divisiveness, while clearly financially prosperous, is terribly immoral and unhealthy for the nation, IMHO. ---
**Author:** ![labmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f19dbf/32.png) [@labmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/labmonkey)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 4:33am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-and-christianity/237817/52 "2004-04-04T04:33:48Z")
> [@rjung](#): > > Yeah, the major media outlets are so liberal-oriented that they’ve been harping on Bush’s 9/11 failures since 2002, when the failings first came to light. Oh, wait, they _haven’t_… > And I recommend Al Franken’s **Lies and the Lying Liars Who Tell Them,** particularly the chapter entitled “I Bitch-Slap Bernie Goldberg.” Amazingly enough, Bernie still hasn’t been able to prove Al was wrong about Bernie’s own biases… Al franken is a fucking dunce whom I take about as seriosly as Dittohead. Why does it bother you lefties so much it when someone has the fucking gall to mention, that just maybe, the the big three slant left, who cares? Clutch the fucking pearls! You’re just about ready to start spewin left-wing bile, aren’t you? :o ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 4:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-and-christianity/237817/53 "2004-04-04T04:56:58Z")
Ooohh…“Al Franken is a dunce,” what an witty riposte. :rolleyes: The notion that the networks are lefty is a fucking rightwing canard, man. It;s bullshit. It’s paranoid rightwing nutters reading all kinds of ridiculous significance into the way Peter Jennings raises an eyebrow. It is in no way comparable to the naked propaganda perpetuated by Fox News. ---
**Author:** ![ZombiesAteMyBrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/b4bc9f/32.png) [@ZombiesAteMyBrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ZombiesAteMyBrain)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 11:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-and-christianity/237817/54 "2004-04-04T11:06:34Z")
> [@LorieSmurf](#): > > The big story is that Jesus Comes Again in the latest book and GASP…people are upset because /whiny voice/ that’s not how it is in the Bible! \whiny voice\ You mean he didn’t really take Viagra??? ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 11:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-and-christianity/237817/55 "2004-04-04T11:09:57Z")
> [@matt\_mcl](#): > > No, you ninny; what Diogenes said. News sources, particularly those that constantly trumpet that they lack bias, are expected to be unbiased. Individual people aren’t; after all, to hold an opinion is to be biased. Clayton is not a news source. So CNN does not claim to lack bias? Is the perception that they are slanted to be kinder to liberals correct? ---
**Author:** ![labmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f19dbf/32.png) [@labmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/labmonkey)\ **Post date:** [April 4, 2004, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-and-christianity/237817/56 "2004-04-04T14:02:01Z")
"Ooohh…“Al Franken is a dunce,” what an witty riposte. " Wow, you coming out in defense of Al Franken, I’m shocked. He writes bestseller books for people of the left slant, of course his material is full of crap. And sorry, I can’t get his “hilarious” previous stint as an SNL player out of my mental picture of him. Oh wahh…did I insult a hero of yours? And as long as we’re on the subject of witty riposites, there Shakespeare, I think the title of chapter about that evil secret CBS correspondent who went from Kennth’s lapdog of 20 years to whistleblower just fucking pithy, “I bitch slaped Bernie…” :rolleyes: Anyway, since when did pit comebacks have to be poetry? Chill out, I’m probably more on your side than either of the two, but I refuse to choose and tow party lines. Oh, and little newsflash for you sparky, If you think its only right wing nuts who believe the big three are left leaning(I’m talking about larger social issues, not King George’s immediate track record, I think they cover things like that _fairly_ well) you’re way out of touch with most of _fly-over_ country, to use a fucking elitist moronic term. cheers, Ben [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-and-christianity/237817.md?page=2)