# Fox News and Milum **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [October 19, 2003, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-and-milum/208400 "2003-10-19T20:02:04Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Desmostylus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/c57346/32.png) [@Desmostylus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Desmostylus)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2003, 12:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-and-milum/208400/21 "2003-10-20T12:25:04Z")
**Soup\_du\_jour** , there’s just no way your quote is going to get through to **Milum**. Oddly enough, because it’s too black-and-white. You would have more chance posting **Milum** style: > [@](#): > > _From the linked article_ > The researchers then asked where the respondents most commonly went to get their news. The fair and balanced folks at Fox, the survey concludes, were “the news source whose viewers had the most [symbol]misper[/symbol]ceptions.” Eighty percent of Fox viewers believed at least one of these un-facts; 45 percent believed all three. Over at CBS, 71 percent of viewers fell for one of these mistakes, but just 15 percent bought into the full trifecta. And in the daintier precincts of PBS viewers and NPR listeners, just 23 percent adhered to one of these [symbol]mispe[/symbol]rceptions, while a scant 4 percent entertained all three. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2003, 12:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-and-milum/208400/22 "2003-10-20T12:36:58Z")
**Milum** never ceases to amaze me. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2003, 1:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-and-milum/208400/23 "2003-10-20T13:20:36Z")
He’s probably feeling all warm and fuzzy at the moment, watching all us libruls scurry around every time he plops another of his pearls of wisdom on us. Let’s talk about something else. So – how 'bout them Yankees, huh? ---
**Author:** ![Typo\_Negative](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/typo_negative/32/484_2.png) [@Typo\_Negative](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Typo_Negative)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2003, 2:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-and-milum/208400/24 "2003-10-20T14:13:34Z")
Yankees?? AAAAARRRRGGGHHH ---
**Author:** ![Soup\_du\_jour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Soup\_du\_jour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soup_du_jour)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2003, 2:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-and-milum/208400/25 "2003-10-20T14:51:21Z")
**Desmostylus**. 😛 ---
**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2003, 3:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-and-milum/208400/26 "2003-10-20T15:14:22Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Desmostylus \* > \*\*At some point, **Milum** , you might pause to wonder whether there is a _reason_ why people keep calling you an idiot. \*\* Because the black helicopters and one-world-government evvvvvvviiiiiiillllll Liberals are conspiring against him. They have secretly routed his posts through a special server which makes his posts sound like they were provided by a dim-witted fruitcake with an adversion to logic. Still, regardless of his continued idiocy, I am sure he will try to portray himself as a victim as soon as he can. ---
**Author:** ![jjimm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/ba8739/32.png) [@jjimm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jjimm)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2003, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-and-milum/208400/27 "2003-10-20T15:45:50Z")
And there was me thinking that the problem was us limp-wristed Europeans. Article: I present these beauties for your delight, all from the same [thread](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?threadid=204549): > [@](#): > > _Originally posted by milum_ > **Many socialistic european countries have now evolved into state pens of human husbandry and are rife with citizenry eager for freedom.** > [@](#): > > _Ibid._ > **Admit it. You Eurotypes are becoming overrefined and effete. Kinda like ageing aimless bachelors who still live with their ageing permissive parents who still provide all the accruements of life with a minimum of demands. Such are the rewards of socialism.** > [@](#): > > _Ibid._ > **Inspired by this shinning [sic] example [the US] of the possibilities of human will, many europeans rid their own countries of their own royal tyrants so that they too could become fat and degenerate like many or the successful democratic societies of today.** I’d like to say we’ve found our new **december** , but this one’s got neither the wit nor the manners of our late friend. And of course there’s the whole use-of-colour thing, that often seems to precede meltown. ---
**Author:** ![PatriotX](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/c4cdca/32.png) [@PatriotX](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PatriotX)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2003, 4:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-and-milum/208400/28 "2003-10-20T16:46:11Z")
**Milum** ’s not a **december**. bdecember\*\* revealed more evidence of firing syanpses than **Milum**. **Milum** is more of a mere regurgitator. He’s thoroughly Coulterized. ---
**Author:** ![Squink](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b5e925/32.png) [@Squink](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Squink)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2003, 5:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-and-milum/208400/29 "2003-10-20T17:45:20Z")
> [@](#): > > syanpses ---
**Author:** ![Chefguy](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/chefguy/32/138_2.png) [@Chefguy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Chefguy)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2003, 5:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-and-milum/208400/30 "2003-10-20T17:55:22Z")
He must be a _real_ geezer if he thinks _I’m_ a “young buck”. 😛 **Priceguy’s** solution is the best. I had no idea what this putz was like and tried to encourage him to partake in honest debate. My mistake, and it won’t happen again. I’ll be content in the future to sit back and be warmed by the flames. ---
**Author:** ![cheddarsnax](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/a587f6/32.png) [@cheddarsnax](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/cheddarsnax)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2003, 8:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-and-milum/208400/31 "2003-10-20T20:48:14Z")
I was thinkin’ about mentioning the color thing in the OP. What the hell is that? I was looking through Milum’s GD post history and it’s like a fucking box of crayons. ---
**Author:** ![Gadfly](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/aeb1de/32.png) [@Gadfly](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gadfly)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2003, 10:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-and-milum/208400/32 "2003-10-20T22:14:58Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by cheddarsnax_ > I was thinkin’ about mentioning the color thing in the OP. What the hell is that? I was looking through Milum’s GD post history and it’s like a fucking box of crayons. I know. Milum, buddy ol’ pal: TECHNICOLOR BULLSHIT IS STILL BULLSHIT. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [October 20, 2003, 11:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-and-milum/208400/33 "2003-10-20T23:53:03Z")
**Milum** , okay, I admit it. I hate Faux News because I’m a liberal, and anything and anyone to the right of Noam Chompsky is evil. Happy? :rolleyes: ---
**Author:** ![matt\_mcl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7ab992/32.png) [@matt\_mcl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/matt_mcl)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2003, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-and-milum/208400/34 "2003-10-21T00:21:26Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Soup\_du\_jour \* > \*\*The fair and balanced folks at Fox, the survey concludes, were “the news source whose viewers had the most misperceptions.” Eighty percent of Fox viewers believed at least one of these un-facts; 45 percent believed all three. \*\* _gets down on my knees and thanks G-O-D for the C-B-C_ ---
**Author:** ![Larry\_Mudd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/f14d63/32.png) [@Larry\_Mudd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Larry_Mudd)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2003, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-and-milum/208400/35 "2003-10-21T00:31:17Z")
I wonder what **Milum** makes of last month’s [Program on International Policy Attitudes](http://www.pipa.org/) study ([.pdf link](http://www.pipa.org/OnlineReports/Iraq/Media_10_02_03_Report.pdf)) that touched on the correlation between respondants’ primary news source and their tendency to believe things which are manifestly untrue. Amongst the findings:[ul][li]67% of faithful Fox News viewers believe that evidence has been found linking Hussein’s regime to al Qaeda.[/li](This belief is held amongst more Fox News viewers than people who get their news from any other single source, or from a variety of sources.)[li]33% of faithful Fox News viewers somehow believe that Weapons of Mass Destruction _have_ been found in Iraq.[/li](This belief is held amongst more Fox News viewers than people who get their news from any other single source, or from a variety of sources.)[li]35% of faithful Fox News viewers believe that world opinion was mostly in favour of the US going to war against Iraq.[/li](This belief is held amongst more Fox News viewers than people who get their news from any other single source, of from a variety of sources.)[/ul]Interestingly, _Fox News_-watching respondants distinguished themselves from people who get their news elsewhere in a more general sense, too. _Fox News_ viewers alone demonstrated a grasp of reality that was _inversely-proportionate_ to their exposure to news. The less they claimed to be paying attention, the less likely they were to be mistaken. Interesting, that. (On preview, sorry **soup-du-jour** – I missed your post somehow. I’ll let mine stand since it links to the study and I don’t think that the last point was referenced in your linked article, though I admit that I didn’t register to read it.) **matt\_mcl** , _amen!_ (And _The Globe & Mail_, and Google News Search!) ---
**Author:** ![elf6c](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c57346/32.png) [@elf6c](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elf6c)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2003, 12:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-and-milum/208400/36 "2003-10-21T12:54:35Z")
Another happy nod to **Google News Search**. Citer’s paradise. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Derleth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/b9e5f3/32.png) [@Derleth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Derleth)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2003, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-and-milum/208400/37 "2003-10-21T14:53:17Z")
**matt** : Of course, the Ceeb is still biased. More subtly, and not to the point of obscuring whole classes of facts, but biased. ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2003, 3:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-and-milum/208400/38 "2003-10-21T15:52:06Z")
There’s also the BBC’s famous [anti-Israel bias](http://www.cnsnews.com/ForeignBureaus/Archive/200307/FOR20030715f.html). Sorry, that should read [“pro-Israel, anti-Islamic”](http://media.guardian.co.uk/mediaguardian/story/0,7558,493642,00.html) bias. No, [wait a moment](http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/from_our_own_correspondent/1021166.stm)… And of course, [don’t mention](http://media.guardian.co.uk/print/0,3858,4620273-111303,00.html) [the war](http://media.guardian.co.uk/iraqandthemedia/story/0,12823,991150,00.html)… ---
**Author:** ![Doomtrain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/0ea827/32.png) [@Doomtrain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Doomtrain)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2003, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-and-milum/208400/39 "2003-10-21T17:11:44Z")
“You started it.” “We did not.” “Yes, you did, you invaded Poland!” ---
**Author:** ![Gyrate](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gyrate/32/3588_2.png) [@Gyrate](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Gyrate)\ **Post date:** [October 21, 2003, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-and-milum/208400/40 "2003-10-21T17:36:24Z")
Iraq invaded Poland? Man, I have _got_ to start watching Fox News… [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-and-milum/208400.md?page=1) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-and-milum/208400.md?page=3)