# Fox News collaborates with Al Qaeda in targeting Navy Seal. **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [August 25, 2012, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-collaborates-with-al-qaeda-in-targeting-navy-seal/632554 "2012-08-25T00:36:52Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 12:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-collaborates-with-al-qaeda-in-targeting-navy-seal/632554/1 "2012-08-25T00:36:52Z")
Ok, they didn’t exactly collaborate, but they may as well have. > **[Fox News Outs Secret Identity Of Navy SEAL In Bin Laden Raid](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/fox-news-navy-seal-bin-laden_n_1825146)** > > Fox News Outs Secret Identity Of Navy SEAL In Bin Laden Raid > [@](#): > > Fox News said on Thursday that it had identified the real identity of the Navy SEAL who is writing a book about his participation in the raid that killed Osama bin Laden. The Associated Press later confirmed the report. > > The forthcoming publication of the book, titled “No Easy Day,” was announced on Wednesday. It will be released on September 11, and has not been vetted or cleared by the Pentagon. The author is using a pseudonym, Mark Owen. > > But on Thursday, Fox News ran an item with what it claimed was the author’s true name Then this: [http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503543\_162-57500137-503543/al-qaeda-calls-for-death-of-navy-seal-who-authored-book-on-bin-laden-mission](http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503543_162-57500137-503543/al-qaeda-calls-for-death-of-navy-seal-who-authored-book-on-bin-laden-mission) > [@](#): > > Al Qaeda has wasted no time in calling for the death of the former Navy SEAL who has written a book under a pseudonym which his publisher Dutton calls a first person account of the death of Osama bin Laden. > > A jihadist forum, al-Fidaa, located in Malaysia, posted the death calls and provided the author’s name and photograph under a headline titled “First Image of One of the Dogs who killed Bin Laden.” Dogs are considered unclean in Islam. I don’t even know what to say about this. JESUS FUCKING CHRIST. Yeah, the guy shouldn’t have written the book, but c’mon Fox News, are you trying to win the evil fuckers of the century award? ---
**Author:** ![Loach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/loach/32/350_2.png) [@Loach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Loach)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 12:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-collaborates-with-al-qaeda-in-targeting-navy-seal/632554/2 "2012-08-25T00:44:56Z")
We already knew who killed Bin Laden. [http://m.funnyordie.com/videos/8e464776e6/the-navy-seal-who-killed-osama-bin-laden](http://m.funnyordie.com/videos/8e464776e6/the-navy-seal-who-killed-osama-bin-laden) ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-collaborates-with-al-qaeda-in-targeting-navy-seal/632554/3 "2012-08-25T01:01:20Z")
Of course they had to reveal his name. It had a “D” next to it. ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 1:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-collaborates-with-al-qaeda-in-targeting-navy-seal/632554/4 "2012-08-25T01:03:50Z")
> [@runner pat](#): > > Of course they had to reveal his name. It had a “D” next to it. Do we know that? ---
**Author:** ![Ike\_Witt](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ike_witt/32/283_2.png) [@Ike\_Witt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ike_Witt)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 1:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-collaborates-with-al-qaeda-in-targeting-navy-seal/632554/5 "2012-08-25T01:08:04Z")
> [@davidm](#): > > Do we know that? Woosh ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-collaborates-with-al-qaeda-in-targeting-navy-seal/632554/6 "2012-08-25T01:23:11Z")
People, we need to focus on the real villain here. Fox News was forced to reveal this sailor’s name due to Obama’s attempt to hog all the credit. ---
**Author:** ![PlainJain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/5daacb/32.png) [@PlainJain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PlainJain)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 1:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-collaborates-with-al-qaeda-in-targeting-navy-seal/632554/7 "2012-08-25T01:29:11Z")
Pathetic and sickening. I can’t wait to see how the pundits and tea partiers will defend this. . ---
**Author:** ![davidm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/davidm/32/225_2.png) [@davidm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/davidm)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 1:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-collaborates-with-al-qaeda-in-targeting-navy-seal/632554/8 "2012-08-25T01:31:33Z")
They’ll say he deserved it for writing the book, which put him and others in danger. Wait for it. Limbaugh will probably be implying it, if not outright saying it. ---
**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 1:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-collaborates-with-al-qaeda-in-targeting-navy-seal/632554/9 "2012-08-25T01:38:12Z")
I’m wondering about this whole “Al Queda threat” thing. Is there such a discrete entity, any more? Keep in mind, there are checks to be cashed in all of this. How better to bolster credibility if not credulity by saying such a thing. Who could prove you wrong? Gonna call up an Al Queda spokesman? It appears as though Fox Gnaws already knows what the book says, and they like it. All on spec, of course. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-collaborates-with-al-qaeda-in-targeting-navy-seal/632554/10 "2012-08-25T02:23:17Z")
Eh. You write a book under a pseudonym and someone is going to out you. Fox just got there first. Maybe HuffPo shouldn’t have not spread the rumor if they think it’s so bad. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 2:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-collaborates-with-al-qaeda-in-targeting-navy-seal/632554/11 "2012-08-25T02:35:24Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > Eh. You write a book under a pseudonym and someone is going to out you. Fox just got there first. Maybe HuffPo shouldn’t have not spread the rumor if they think it’s so bad. Perhaps it is inevitable. It’s still a cunt maneuver for the person who did it. I now return you to your reflexive defense of conservatism. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-collaborates-with-al-qaeda-in-targeting-navy-seal/632554/12 "2012-08-25T02:43:43Z")
> [@Lobohan](#): > > Perhaps it is inevitable. It’s still a cunt maneuver for the person who did it. It was a cunt maneuver to publish the book because nothing like this remains a secret these days. This guy is trying to profit off the bravery and sacrifice of his brothers. I have no doubt that any new agency would have broken the news if they had the chance. Fox just got there first. ---
**Author:** ![GreasyJack](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/df705f/32.png) [@GreasyJack](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GreasyJack)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-collaborates-with-al-qaeda-in-targeting-navy-seal/632554/13 "2012-08-25T02:46:03Z")
I’m glad CBS cleared up that “dog” wasn’t a term of endearment. ---
**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 3:06am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-collaborates-with-al-qaeda-in-targeting-navy-seal/632554/14 "2012-08-25T03:06:43Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > It was a cunt maneuver to publish the book because nothing like this remains a secret these days. This guy is trying to profit off the bravery and sacrifice of his brothers. > > I have no doubt that any new agency would have broken the news if they had the chance. Fox just got there first. MSNBC isn’t saying the dude’s name. CBS in the OP link didn’t mention his name. Although the AP did repeat it after FOX spilled it. I have my doubts that any serious agency would leak a name that could get someone killed. I don’t doubt that any number of rabid assholes of the right-wing pseudo-media would, mind you. I’m sure Drudge or Brietbart would. Or any number of bloggers on both sides. But I used to work for a newspaper and the editors had standards that far surpassed FOX News and the half-assed wannabes that resonate the right-wing echo-chamber. ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 3:16am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-collaborates-with-al-qaeda-in-targeting-navy-seal/632554/15 "2012-08-25T03:16:42Z")
[CNN also refused](http://thinkprogress.org/security/2012/08/24/740021/pentagon-book-publisher-reveal-seal-name/) to reveal his name. > [@](#): > > And CNN’s Barbara Starr said the network will not report Owen’s real name. “CNN is not doing so at this time at the request of the Pentagon,” she said yesterday, “which is citing its concern about the security of the other SEAL team members.” ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-collaborates-with-al-qaeda-in-targeting-navy-seal/632554/16 "2012-08-25T03:18:34Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > It was a cunt maneuver to publish the book because nothing like this remains a secret these days. This guy is trying to profit off the bravery and sacrifice of his brothers. > > I have no doubt that any new agency would have broken the news if they had the chance. \*\* Fox just got there first.\*\* Doesn’t mean they had to reveal his name. The could have taken the ethical high ground they so often claim to occupy. ---
**Author:** ![FoieGrasIsEvil](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/foiegrasisevil/32/16638_2.png) [@FoieGrasIsEvil](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FoieGrasIsEvil)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 3:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-collaborates-with-al-qaeda-in-targeting-navy-seal/632554/17 "2012-08-25T03:38:09Z")
I don’t get the outrage. Navy SEALS operate in a highly intel-sensitive environment. You just don’t write a tell-all book about that. Perhaps the book abounds in vagaries, but still. There’s absolutely no reason to reveal any minor details OPSEC-wise about how we conduct our operations. None. Whether its the President doing so or a SEAL on the ground is irrelevant. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 4:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-collaborates-with-al-qaeda-in-targeting-navy-seal/632554/18 "2012-08-25T04:10:05Z")
[LA Times](http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2012/08/23/bin-laden-assassin-is-medal-of-honor-warfighter-consultant/) names the author. So does [The Atlantic Wire](http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2012/08/no-easy-week-outed-navy-seal-author/56154/) Not far behind is [The New York Times.](http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/24/business/media/bin-laden-raids-firsthand-chronicler-is-unmasked.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1345867703-898OEYLxRBkAQMqwgxw1SQ) ---
**Author:** ![running\_coach](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/running_coach/32/15836_2.png) [@running\_coach](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/running_coach)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-collaborates-with-al-qaeda-in-targeting-navy-seal/632554/19 "2012-08-25T04:15:45Z")
> [@John\_Mace](#): > > [LA Times](http://herocomplex.latimes.com/2012/08/23/bin-laden-assassin-is-medal-of-honor-warfighter-consultant/) names the author. So does [The Atlantic Wire](http://www.theatlanticwire.com/national/2012/08/no-easy-week-outed-navy-seal-author/56154/) > > Not far behind is [The New York Times.](http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/24/business/media/bin-laden-raids-firsthand-chronicler-is-unmasked.html?_r=1&adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1345867703-898OEYLxRBkAQMqwgxw1SQ) All of them noting that Fox News had already revealed his name. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [August 25, 2012, 4:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-collaborates-with-al-qaeda-in-targeting-navy-seal/632554/20 "2012-08-25T04:15:54Z")
I’m sure all the Julian Assange defenders will be here post haste to defend FoxNews on this matter. > [@runner pat](#): > > All of them noting that Fox News had already revealed his name. So what? [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-collaborates-with-al-qaeda-in-targeting-navy-seal/632554.md?page=2)