# Fox News headline: "Obama Praises Indian Chief Who Killed U.S. General." The Indian: Sitting Bull **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 15, 2010, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-headline-obama-praises-indian-chief-who-killed-u-s-general-the-indian-sitting-bull/560786 "2010-11-15T21:53:48Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-headline-obama-praises-indian-chief-who-killed-u-s-general-the-indian-sitting-bull/560786/1 "2010-11-15T21:53:48Z")
Damn, these clowns really know no shame, do they? Here’s the story: [http://gawker.com/5690436/fox-news-turns-obamas-kid-book-into-anti+american-war-epic](http://gawker.com/5690436/fox-news-turns-obamas-kid-book-into-anti+american-war-epic) > [@](#): > > When news aggregation goes wrong: Fox News republished a USA Today article called “Obama Shares Dreams for His Kids in Book About 13 Americans.” Fox News’ headline? “Obama Praises Indian Chief Who Killed U.S. General.” > > The chief in question is Sitting Bull, whom Obama calls “a Sioux medicine man who healed broken hearts and broken promises” in his book. Here’s a comparison between USA Today’s article and Fox News’ article, the latter of which is exactly the same as the former, but with a different headline and one paragraph in bold. Anyway this comment that someone left on there pretty much sums my thoughts: > [@](#): > > Note to all Fox News watchers: > > Fox News thinks that the US military should be able to move you from your home and death march you to reservations. If the military knocks on your door and tells you to go, please put down your guns and follow obediently. No fighting back with said guns. (Note: This only applies if it’s a republican government with a republican president.) > > Warping words to mean their opposite is fun ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 10:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-headline-obama-praises-indian-chief-who-killed-u-s-general-the-indian-sitting-bull/560786/2 "2010-11-15T22:22:20Z")
Think the timing with his visit to India is a coincidence? ---
**Author:** ![appleciders](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/85f322/32.png) [@appleciders](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/appleciders)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-headline-obama-praises-indian-chief-who-killed-u-s-general-the-indian-sitting-bull/560786/3 "2010-11-15T22:24:27Z")
Wow. That’s pretty blatant. ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 10:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-headline-obama-praises-indian-chief-who-killed-u-s-general-the-indian-sitting-bull/560786/4 "2010-11-15T22:33:09Z")
Well, he’s a known anti-imperialist, afterall. ---
**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 10:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-headline-obama-praises-indian-chief-who-killed-u-s-general-the-indian-sitting-bull/560786/5 "2010-11-15T22:34:35Z")
What are you talking about? So what? You know how one time this other network was overzealous in pursuing a true story and credulously used forged documents? And what’s wrong with the headline? Did or did not Sitting Bull kill a U.S. general? If he did, then what’s the complaint? ---
**Author:** ![pravnik](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/8edcca/32.png) [@pravnik](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/pravnik)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 10:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-headline-obama-praises-indian-chief-who-killed-u-s-general-the-indian-sitting-bull/560786/6 "2010-11-15T22:45:40Z")
I don’t see whay they stopped there. Obama also praised: - The marijuana grower who led an armed insurrection against the legitimately recognized government of the first 13 states - An “artist” obsessed with the human vagina - A baseball player who was at the center of one of the most controversial sports incidents of the 20th century ---
**Author:** ![Slithy\_Tove](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/slithy_tove/32/18248_2.png) [@Slithy\_Tove](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Slithy_Tove)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 10:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-headline-obama-praises-indian-chief-who-killed-u-s-general-the-indian-sitting-bull/560786/7 "2010-11-15T22:54:54Z")
Nitpick: Custer was a colonel at Little Bighorn. ---
**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 11:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-headline-obama-praises-indian-chief-who-killed-u-s-general-the-indian-sitting-bull/560786/8 "2010-11-15T23:03:06Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > Did or did not Sitting Bull kill a U.S. general? No, actually, although I sense a strong sense of irony in your post. Not any more than Santa Anna personally killed William Travis at the Alamo. In fact, I don’t think Sitting Bull was even a strategic commander in the Battle of Little Big Horn. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-headline-obama-praises-indian-chief-who-killed-u-s-general-the-indian-sitting-bull/560786/9 "2010-11-15T23:08:39Z")
> [@pravnik](#): > > - The marijuana grower who led an armed insurrection against the legitimately recognized government of the first 13 states And a noted anti-imperialist as well. ---
**Author:** ![joebuck20](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/74df32/32.png) [@joebuck20](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/joebuck20)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-headline-obama-praises-indian-chief-who-killed-u-s-general-the-indian-sitting-bull/560786/10 "2010-11-15T23:19:35Z")
> [@Rhythmdvl](#): > > What are you talking about? So what? You know how one time this other network was overzealous in pursuing a true story and credulously used forged documents? And what’s wrong with the headline? Did or did not Sitting Bull kill a U.S. general? If he did, then what’s the complaint? Come on, let’s not play stupid here. Yes, the headline _may_ technically be true (I don’t know enough about the Battle of Little Big Horn to tell you how or even whether or not Sitting Bull is indeed responsible for the death of Custer). But the way it’s worded, it’s designed solely for the purpose of inciting yet another faux outrage about how Obama hates all that is good about America. As I said before, the folks at Fox are utterly shameless. They’re the Eric Cartman of the news landscape. If they thought they could score some mileage out of a headline that said “Obama sleeping with black chick” I have no doubt that they would run with it. ---
**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\ **Post date:** [November 15, 2010, 11:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-headline-obama-praises-indian-chief-who-killed-u-s-general-the-indian-sitting-bull/560786/11 "2010-11-15T23:32:14Z")
> [@joebuck20](#): > > Come on, let’s not play stupid here. If I’m reading **Rhythmdvl** ’s post right, he is playing. In other words, you done got wooshed. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2010, 12:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-headline-obama-praises-indian-chief-who-killed-u-s-general-the-indian-sitting-bull/560786/12 "2010-11-16T00:38:28Z")
Custer got his entire command wiped out because he was an idiot. I don’t think Sitting Bull was actually a battlefield commander, but I may be mistaken. That said, Boo Hiss to Fox News for this one. Really no excuse for what they’ve done here. ---
**Author:** ![armedmonkey](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/d6d6ee/32.png) [@armedmonkey](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/armedmonkey)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2010, 1:07am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-headline-obama-praises-indian-chief-who-killed-u-s-general-the-indian-sitting-bull/560786/13 "2010-11-16T01:07:26Z")
> [@Oakminster](#): > > Custer got his entire command wiped out because he was an idiot. I don’t think Sitting Bull was actually a battlefield commander, but I may be mistaken. It was Crazy Horse who put the Lt. Colonel down for his dirt nap. ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2010, 1:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-headline-obama-praises-indian-chief-who-killed-u-s-general-the-indian-sitting-bull/560786/14 "2010-11-16T01:22:54Z")
> [@A Monkey With a Gun](#): > > It was Crazy Horse who put the Lt. Colonel down for his dirt nap. Along with many others (Rain-in-the-Face, Chief Gall, etc.). Custer attacked during a conference of many war leaders of Cheyenne, Sioux and a few Arapaho so there wasn’t really a supreme commander. In addition to Custer himself two of his brothers, a nephew, a brother-in-law and a cousin were killed there- bad day for the Custer family in general. Trivia: U.S. Grant’s son Fred was supposed to have been there but had been given home leave because his wife had just had a baby. ---
**Author:** ![Oakminster](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/77aa72/32.png) [@Oakminster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oakminster)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2010, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-headline-obama-praises-indian-chief-who-killed-u-s-general-the-indian-sitting-bull/560786/15 "2010-11-16T01:26:04Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > Along with many others (Rain-in-the-Face, Chief Gall, etc.). Custer attacked during a conference of many war leaders of Cheyenne, Sioux and a few Arapaho so there wasn’t really a supreme commander. Kinda like the guy that walked right by the police car outside to attempt a robbery of a gun store. :smack: ---
**Author:** ![silenus](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/silenus/32/166_2.png) [@silenus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/silenus)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2010, 1:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-headline-obama-praises-indian-chief-who-killed-u-s-general-the-indian-sitting-bull/560786/16 "2010-11-16T01:30:26Z")
IIRC, it was Gall’s encirclement that put paid to Custer’s band. They swept up over Last Stand Hill from the back side and that was that. No way of telling when Numbnuts bought it, of course. ---
**Author:** ![GIGObuster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/gigobuster/32/421_2.png) [@GIGObuster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GIGObuster)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2010, 1:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-headline-obama-praises-indian-chief-who-killed-u-s-general-the-indian-sitting-bull/560786/17 "2010-11-16T01:32:27Z")
Lots of Bull from FOX. [http://www.westholmepublishing.com/sittingbull.html](http://www.westholmepublishing.com/sittingbull.html) > [@](#): > > Sitting Bull was later more of a shaman and tribal elder. During the Little Big Horn, he was in camp making sure the children were safely concealed. The most likely killer of Custer was another Bull: [White Cow Bull](http://www.astonisher.com/archives/museum/who_killed_custer.html), then less likely but possible there were others like Brave Bear and Old Bear (No relation to Running Bear who loved Little White Dove 😃 ) ---
**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2010, 2:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-headline-obama-praises-indian-chief-who-killed-u-s-general-the-indian-sitting-bull/560786/18 "2010-11-16T02:00:05Z")
White Cow Bull is a strangely hermaphroditic name, isn’t it? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2010, 2:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-headline-obama-praises-indian-chief-who-killed-u-s-general-the-indian-sitting-bull/560786/19 "2010-11-16T02:08:18Z")
I went to the website to verify this story, as it’s not uncommon for these things to be taken things out of context, or otherwise reported less than accurately. As it turns out, the story is exactly correct. However… if you go to Fo xNews and do a search for this story, you don’t get anything. At least, I didn’t get anything. You have to go to “Fox Nation” to find it. Fox Nation appears to be part of Fox News, but I’m wondering why Fox News doesn’t like to the story. Is there some sort of distinction they are trying to make between Fox News and Fox Nation? ---
**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\ **Post date:** [November 16, 2010, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-headline-obama-praises-indian-chief-who-killed-u-s-general-the-indian-sitting-bull/560786/20 "2010-11-16T02:23:08Z")
> [@Sampiro](#): > > White Cow Bull is a strangely hermaphroditic name, isn’t it? I vote for poor translation. Probably better translated as just “White Bull”, where bull= steer, and not a bull buffalo, for example. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-headline-obama-praises-indian-chief-who-killed-u-s-general-the-indian-sitting-bull/560786.md?page=2)