# Fox News headline: "Obama Praises Indian Chief Who Killed U.S. General." The Indian: Sitting Bull

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**Created:** [November 15, 2010, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-headline-obama-praises-indian-chief-who-killed-u-s-general-the-indian-sitting-bull/560786 "2010-11-15T21:53:48Z")\
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**Author:** ![Scuba\_Ben](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/278dde/32.png) [@Scuba\_Ben](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scuba_Ben)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2010, 7:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-headline-obama-praises-indian-chief-who-killed-u-s-general-the-indian-sitting-bull/560786/41 "2010-11-16T19:49:07Z")

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> [@descamisado](#):
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> And was a Zombie!!!

He got better.

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**Author:** ![Mighty\_Girl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/7bcc69/32.png) [@Mighty\_Girl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mighty_Girl)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2010, 7:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-headline-obama-praises-indian-chief-who-killed-u-s-general-the-indian-sitting-bull/560786/42 "2010-11-16T19:57:23Z")

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Why is anyone ignoring that Obama fathered two black children?

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**Author:** ![descamisado](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e480ec/32.png) [@descamisado](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/descamisado)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2010, 8:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-headline-obama-praises-indian-chief-who-killed-u-s-general-the-indian-sitting-bull/560786/43 "2010-11-16T20:06:43Z")

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October Surprise?

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2010, 8:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-headline-obama-praises-indian-chief-who-killed-u-s-general-the-indian-sitting-bull/560786/44 "2010-11-16T20:36:31Z")

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> [@Mighty\_Girl](#):
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> Why is anyone ignoring that Obama fathered two black children?

Lawl.

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**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2010, 8:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-headline-obama-praises-indian-chief-who-killed-u-s-general-the-indian-sitting-bull/560786/45 "2010-11-16T20:49:28Z")

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> [@Scuba\_Ben](#):
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> You guys rock.
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> May I play too? That cult leader also opposed the laws governing freedom of expression, religion, and opposing the government.

Hey, he gave up a three day weekend for me, that’s more than any other cult leader ever did.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2010, 9:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-headline-obama-praises-indian-chief-who-killed-u-s-general-the-indian-sitting-bull/560786/46 "2010-11-16T21:18:42Z")

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> [@outlierrn](#):
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> Hey, he gave up a three day weekend for me, that’s more than any other cult leader ever did.

He gave up a three day weekend to convince Himself that He shouldn’t punish you for something an ancestor did.

Whereas Sun Myung Moon is personally willing to level-up your WOW character for free.

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**Author:** ![marshmallow](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/df705f/32.png) [@marshmallow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/marshmallow)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2010, 9:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-headline-obama-praises-indian-chief-who-killed-u-s-general-the-indian-sitting-bull/560786/47 "2010-11-16T21:27:33Z")

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It would have been pretty awesome if Obama were a crack smoking Muslim communist who sympathizes with terrorists by day and thirsts for white women by night. Alas.

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**Author:** ![Rhythmdvl](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/85f322/32.png) [@Rhythmdvl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Rhythmdvl)\
**Post date:** [November 16, 2010, 9:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-headline-obama-praises-indian-chief-who-killed-u-s-general-the-indian-sitting-bull/560786/48 "2010-11-16T21:55:44Z")

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Just get him to work on that “thirst” thing and you’ll be golden.

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**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 1:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-headline-obama-praises-indian-chief-who-killed-u-s-general-the-indian-sitting-bull/560786/49 "2010-11-17T13:46:07Z")

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> [@elucidator](#):
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> I have a tribal name. They call me “Dances With Vulvas”.

Mine is “Drinks beer, watches television.”

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**Author:** ![LonesomePolecat](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/a88e57/32.png) [@LonesomePolecat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LonesomePolecat)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-headline-obama-praises-indian-chief-who-killed-u-s-general-the-indian-sitting-bull/560786/50 "2010-11-17T13:49:23Z")

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> [@Jack\_Batty](#):
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> This thread has given me the fever. I got the fever and there’s only one cure.  
> More Cow Bull.

Oh. My. _God_.

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**Author:** ![Merijeek](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f05b48/32.png) [@Merijeek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Merijeek)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 1:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-headline-obama-praises-indian-chief-who-killed-u-s-general-the-indian-sitting-bull/560786/51 "2010-11-17T13:58:57Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Along with many others (Rain-in-the-Face, Chief Gall, etc.). Custer attacked during a conference of many war leaders of Cheyenne, Sioux and a few Arapaho so there wasn’t really a supreme commander. In addition to Custer himself two of his brothers, a nephew, a brother-in-law and a cousin were killed there- bad day for the Custer family in general.  
> Trivia: U.S. Grant’s son Fred was supposed to have been there but had been given home leave because his wife had just had a baby.

Sounds like a group of community organizers to me. Custer was right to have attacked!

-Joe

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**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 3:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-headline-obama-praises-indian-chief-who-killed-u-s-general-the-indian-sitting-bull/560786/52 "2010-11-17T15:23:03Z")

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> [@GIGObuster](#):
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> …Brave Bear and Old Bear (No relation to Running Bear who loved Little White Dove 😃 )

Dear god! Who’s got no shame? :dubious:😃

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**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-headline-obama-praises-indian-chief-who-killed-u-s-general-the-indian-sitting-bull/560786/53 "2010-11-17T18:39:46Z")

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> [@Gyrate](#):
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> Stop the presses! I have reason to believe that Obama is a devoted follower of a radical Middle Eastern cult leader and martyr who, among other things, committed violent acts in a holy temple, encouraged ritualized cannibalism, spoke with demons and communed with the dead.

I had been drinking when I did that shit; how many times do I have to explain that demon shit was an accident? I man, hell, just let a man fuck one zombie and no one ever forgets it.

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**Author:** ![LouisB](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/dfb087/32.png) [@LouisB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/LouisB)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 6:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-headline-obama-praises-indian-chief-who-killed-u-s-general-the-indian-sitting-bull/560786/54 "2010-11-17T18:47:59Z")

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On a serious note, as if my last post wasn’t serious, which it was, but anyway: When I lived in Yankton, SD, I tried really hard to learn the local history. The local newspaper had many copies of really old newspapers and I was allowed to read as many of them as I wished. The Indians weren’t locally favorite citizens and I was struck by how many times the name “Sitting Bull” was rendered as “Slightly Recumbent Gentleman Cow.” I had always thought that rendering was more or less an urban legend; seeing it in print, in an actual newspaper, was a jolt.

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**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 7:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-headline-obama-praises-indian-chief-who-killed-u-s-general-the-indian-sitting-bull/560786/55 "2010-11-17T19:04:29Z")

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> [@LonesomePolecat](#):
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> Mine is “Drinks beer, watches television.”

Among my people, I am “Stands With Difficulty”.

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**Author:** ![Lobohan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lobohan/32/79_2.png) [@Lobohan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lobohan)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-headline-obama-praises-indian-chief-who-killed-u-s-general-the-indian-sitting-bull/560786/56 "2010-11-17T19:11:17Z")

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> [@Bryan\_Ekers](#):
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> Among my people, I am “Stands With Difficulty”.

My tribe calls me “Over-Concerned with Plot Inconsistencies in Popular Science Fiction.”

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 7:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-headline-obama-praises-indian-chief-who-killed-u-s-general-the-indian-sitting-bull/560786/57 "2010-11-17T19:29:30Z")

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In my tribe, I am known as … ‘Jack’.  
We’re really not very creative.

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**Author:** ![outlierrn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/outlierrn/32/3005_2.png) [@outlierrn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/outlierrn)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 8:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-headline-obama-praises-indian-chief-who-killed-u-s-general-the-indian-sitting-bull/560786/58 "2010-11-17T20:02:12Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> Whereas Sun Myung Moon is personally willing to level-up your WOW character for free.

…and this means what to me?

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**Author:** ![John\_Mace](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/john_mace/32/185_2.png) [@John\_Mace](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/John_Mace)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 8:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-headline-obama-praises-indian-chief-who-killed-u-s-general-the-indian-sitting-bull/560786/59 "2010-11-17T20:16:21Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> No, it was more a thinly veiled way for me to say, “Oh, by the way, I’m super smart and know Sitting Bull’s \*Lakota \*name.”
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> Now I pay for it by being questioned and not really knowing.
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> Here’s my research: \*Tatanka \*is the preferred spelling per google. Sitting Bull is usually written _Tatanka Yotanka_, and White Bull’s name in \*Lakota \*is _Pte San Hunka_, per [here](http://amertribes.proboards.com/index.cgi?board=miniconjou1&action=print&thread=200)and several places. It doesn’t literally mean _White Bull_ or _Lazy Bull_ or _Cow Bull_, but I can’t find what it \*does \*mean.

“Pte” means bison, “San” (pronounced shan) means white, and “hunka” means (I think) chosen. I could mean something like “He chooses the white bull”, or it could be “chosen by the white bull”. The White Bull (Pte San) is sacred to the Lakota. At any rate, this would be a powerful name to posses-- assuming he earned it.

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**Author:** ![Death\_of\_Rats](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a6a055/32.png) [@Death\_of\_Rats](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Death_of_Rats)\
**Post date:** [November 17, 2010, 8:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-headline-obama-praises-indian-chief-who-killed-u-s-general-the-indian-sitting-bull/560786/60 "2010-11-17T20:24:17Z")

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> [@Lobohan](#):
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> He gave up a three day weekend to convince Himself that He shouldn’t punish you for something an ancestor did.
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> Whereas Sun Myung Moon is personally willing to level-up your WOW character for free.

If he can get my Shaman up to 80 before Dec. 7 I will cut him a check today. 😃

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