# Fox News refers to Michelle Obama as "Obama's Baby Mama"

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-refers-to-michelle-obama-as-obamas-baby-mama/452698>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [June 12, 2008, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-refers-to-michelle-obama-as-obamas-baby-mama/452698 "2008-06-12T15:53:39Z")\
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**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 3:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-refers-to-michelle-obama-as-obamas-baby-mama/452698/1 "2008-06-12T15:53:39Z")

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[And we thought “terrorist fist jab” was as low as they would sink…](http://www.sadlyno.com/archives/9671.html)

Racism and sexism all rolled up into one! I can’t imagine a more insulting thing to say about a woman as classy and intelligent as Michelle Obama. You know, pretty much any decent human being would refrain from saying something like that, and here they are putting it on the fucking “news.” I’m absolutely disgusted.

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**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-refers-to-michelle-obama-as-obamas-baby-mama/452698/2 "2008-06-12T16:00:48Z")

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Cut them all the slack they need, I say. It’s going to be a spectacular hanging.

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**Author:** ![Bosstone](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/22d042/32.png) [@Bosstone](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bosstone)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 4:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-refers-to-michelle-obama-as-obamas-baby-mama/452698/3 "2008-06-12T16:02:48Z")

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God damn that’s pathetic.

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**Author:** ![Biggirl](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/biggirl/32/3294_2.png) [@Biggirl](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Biggirl)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-refers-to-michelle-obama-as-obamas-baby-mama/452698/4 "2008-06-12T16:09:28Z")

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She’s not his ‘baby mama’, she’s his wife. Still, not as bad as “assassinate Osama. . . I mean Obama-- either one would be good.”

Placing bets-- which FOX word reader will be the first to drop the N-bomb? Even though she’s not regularly on a FOX show, I’m putting my money on Ann Coulter.

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**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 4:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-refers-to-michelle-obama-as-obamas-baby-mama/452698/5 "2008-06-12T16:19:43Z")

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Fox is working overtime on Obama aren’t they? Good heavens.

Terrorist fist jab is still my favorite, however. Has anyone in the history of the world referred to it as that before fox did?

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**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 4:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-refers-to-michelle-obama-as-obamas-baby-mama/452698/6 "2008-06-12T16:23:20Z")

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[QUOTE=drm]  
Fox is working overtime on Obama aren’t they? Good heavens.

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I guess they’ve got to figure that their livelihood is likely to be threatened if a Democrat- especially a popular, charismatic Democrat- were to be elected. They’ve basically made a living off of Bush, so they’ve got to be more than a little worried.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 4:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-refers-to-michelle-obama-as-obamas-baby-mama/452698/7 "2008-06-12T16:26:25Z")

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This label doesn’t make any sense if “baby mama” is what one of the linked commentors describes; it is “… a term used to describe a woman who got impregnated and whose man left her.”

Huh?

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**Author:** ![Miller](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/miller/32/481_2.png) [@Miller](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Miller)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 4:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-refers-to-michelle-obama-as-obamas-baby-mama/452698/8 "2008-06-12T16:28:22Z")

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What’s the “terrorist fist jab” thing? I missed that one.

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**Author:** ![Great\_Dave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/46a35a/32.png) [@Great\_Dave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Great_Dave)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 4:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-refers-to-michelle-obama-as-obamas-baby-mama/452698/9 "2008-06-12T16:29:05Z")

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Any reaction yet?

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**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 4:30pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-refers-to-michelle-obama-as-obamas-baby-mama/452698/10 "2008-06-12T16:30:53Z")

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[QUOTE=Biggirl]  
She’s not his ‘baby mama’, she’s his wife. Still, not as bad as “assassinate Osama. . . I mean Obama-- either one would be good.”  
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I think it behooves us to be scrupulously accurate about these things. You’re referring to Liz Trotta saying:

> [@Liz Trotta](#):
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> “and now we have what … uh … some are reading as a suggestion that somebody knock off Osama … uh … um … Obama … well, both if we could.”

with a smarmy little chuckle, as discussed at length in [this thread.](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=469377&highlight=Trotta)

> [@Biggirl](#):
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> Placing bets-- which FOX word reader will be the first to drop the N-bomb? Even though she’s not regularly on a FOX show, I’m putting my money on Ann Coulter.

If you mean “nigger”, it’s hard to see Coulter crossing that line when she’s so good at using weasley code words.

I’ll have to wait till I get home to see if I can find Fox video with the “Baby Mama” headline; I want to see the exact context in which it appears. (I haven’t actually watched Fox News in years. It took repeated viewings to convince myself that they really are presenting an apparently unending stream of stupidity, ignorance, slease and lies. I mean, moreso than the other news channels.)

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 4:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-refers-to-michelle-obama-as-obamas-baby-mama/452698/11 "2008-06-12T16:31:09Z")

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[QUOTE=Lightnin’]  
I guess they’ve got to figure that their livelihood is likely to be threatened if a Democrat- especially a popular, charismatic Democrat- were to be elected. They’ve basically made a living off of Bush, so they’ve got to be more than a little worried.  
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They’ll be even more successful with a Democrat in office. They have nothing to worry about. They’re not attacking Obama because he threatens them, but because it’s the attacking itself from which they profit.

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**Author:** ![drm](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/a88e57/32.png) [@drm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/drm)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-refers-to-michelle-obama-as-obamas-baby-mama/452698/12 "2008-06-12T16:32:27Z")

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[QUOTE=Lightnin’]  
I guess they’ve got to figure that their livelihood is likely to be threatened if a Democrat- especially a popular, charismatic Democrat- were to be elected. They’ve basically made a living off of Bush, so they’ve got to be more than a little worried.  
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Yeah, I suppose so. It has to be a little appealing for them to be able to spend four years going negative on a president rather than trying to defend the largely indefensible day in and day out.

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**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 4:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-refers-to-michelle-obama-as-obamas-baby-mama/452698/13 "2008-06-12T16:32:34Z")

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> [@Drain Bead](#):
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> And we thought “terrorist fist jab” was as low as they would sink…

Cite please. I don’t recall ever thinking that. 😉

[QUOTE=Miller]  
What’s the “terrorist fist jab” thing? I missed that one.  
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It was a reference to the little fist bump thing they did before he gave his victory speech last Tuesday.

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**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 4:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-refers-to-michelle-obama-as-obamas-baby-mama/452698/14 "2008-06-12T16:34:46Z")

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As Michelle was leaving the podium after addressing a croud during a recent state primary, she and Barak stopped to briefly offer each other encouragement, one part of which was a soft, little knuckle to knuckle fist press. I suppose it was somewhat unorthodox, thus allowing those unfamiliar with the gesture to speculate wildly on its origins, meaning, etc.

ETA: Dang but the responses come in fast. Obviously, this was IRT Miller’s question.

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**Author:** ![holmes](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/e95f7d/32.png) [@holmes](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/holmes)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 4:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-refers-to-michelle-obama-as-obamas-baby-mama/452698/15 "2008-06-12T16:37:18Z")

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[QUOTE=Baldwin]  
I’ll have to wait till I get home to see if I can find Fox video with the “Baby Mama” headline; I want to see the exact context in which it appears. (I haven’t actually watched Fox News in years. It took repeated viewings to convince myself that they really are presenting an apparently unending stream of stupidity, ignorance, slease and lies. I mean, moreso than the other news channels.)  
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[Here you go](http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/)

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**Author:** ![Trion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/ccd318/32.png) [@Trion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Trion)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-refers-to-michelle-obama-as-obamas-baby-mama/452698/16 "2008-06-12T16:42:37Z")

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Terrorist fist jab:

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wcy5XS68_Bc)

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**Author:** ![NurseCarmen](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/5daacb/32.png) [@NurseCarmen](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/NurseCarmen)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 4:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-refers-to-michelle-obama-as-obamas-baby-mama/452698/17 "2008-06-12T16:43:26Z")

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I must be old. What is “baby mama” supposed to mean? The link is the first time I have seen it defined. Has this term been around a long time and in common usage?

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**Author:** ![Baffle](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/dec6dc/32.png) [@Baffle](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baffle)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 4:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-refers-to-michelle-obama-as-obamas-baby-mama/452698/18 "2008-06-12T16:48:50Z")

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Or [here](http://www.salon.com/politics/war_room/2008/06/11/fox_obama/print.html) for a direct link.

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**Author:** ![Acsenray](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/acsenray/32/4519_2.png) [@Acsenray](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Acsenray)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 4:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-refers-to-michelle-obama-as-obamas-baby-mama/452698/19 "2008-06-12T16:49:51Z")

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[QUOTE=NurseCarmen]  
I must be old. What is “baby mama” supposed to mean? The link is the first time I have seen it defined. Has this term been around a long time and in common usage?  
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It’s been in popular culture since at least 1990 and was popularized by rap musicians. It means a woman whose only relationship to you is that she has borne you a child. It implies that she is likely not your wife and not your girlfriend. She might be an ex-wife or ex-girlfriend, but it’s just as likely that she’s just a girl whom you’ve impregnated and that’s the extent of your relationship.

“Baby daddy” is for the other way around.

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**Author:** ![yojimbo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yojimbo/32/232_2.png) [@yojimbo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/yojimbo)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2008, 4:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-refers-to-michelle-obama-as-obamas-baby-mama/452698/20 "2008-06-12T16:53:44Z")

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Here’s a youtube to the fox news segment

[![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/TvZEZL2LmA8/hqdefault.jpg "Fox News: Michelle Obama is "Obama's Baby Mama"") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvZEZL2LmA8)

You can see the actual “Terrorist fist Jab” at 40 secs in to this video.

[![]( " - YouTube") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cit-XeYs9dw)

The fist thing is unbelievable. It was a little cute moment between a husband and wife when the husband just won the race to represent his party for the race to the White House.

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