# Fox News, Scum bags

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-scum-bags/455574>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [July 7, 2008, 4:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-scum-bags/455574 "2008-07-07T16:59:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 9\
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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2008, 5:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-scum-bags/455574/41 "2008-07-10T17:20:48Z")

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[quopte]Now, it stands to reason that since this board leans pretty far to the left, the average poster here would think that Brit Hume is way over on the right and CNN is somewhere in the middle. But that doesn’t make it so.

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According to this **Media Matters** critique of that study, The RAND Corporation is solidly liberal, the NRA is practically centrist, and the ACLU is conservative. I’m not sure how far I trust that study:

[http://mediamatters.org/items/200512220003](http://mediamatters.org/items/200512220003)

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2008, 5:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-scum-bags/455574/42 "2008-07-10T17:44:50Z")

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[QUOTE=Scylla]  
This is not a "news " piece, but a commentary piece.  
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I dunno, I expect even commentary pieces from major new outlets to at least be vaguely factual. Perhaps biased and not fact checked terribly well, and of course opinionated and full of spin, but not full of outright fabrications.

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> If you’re going to get offended by this you may as well get offended over the caricatures of public figures in political cartoons.

Except caricatures in political cartoons aren’t misleading, its pretty clear to people they’re not meant to be realistic depictions. According to the OP’s links, this wasn’t done during the Fox report.

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**Author:** ![RedFury](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/ec9cab/32.png) [@RedFury](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RedFury)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2008, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-scum-bags/455574/43 "2008-07-10T17:47:24Z")

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Brit Hume is scum. Period.

[Brit Hume Goes On TV & Says He Wants to Profit Off the Terrorist Attack](http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-sirota/brit-hume-goes-on-tv-sa_b_3813.html)

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> **My first thought when I heard - just on a personal basis, when I heard there had been this attack and I saw the futures this morning, which were really in the tank, I thought, 'Hmmm, time to buy.**

Or how about [this comment](http://blog.qusan.com/2005/10/brit-needs-beat-down.html) directed at Juan Williams?

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> **Juan, somebody needs to hose you down.**

Then there’s this propaganda piece he sold out for:

[Brit Hume and the Bush administration take propaganda to a new level](http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/09/11/petraeus_interview/)

Plenty more where those came from. I just can’t imagine anyone defending the schmuck.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2008, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-scum-bags/455574/44 "2008-07-10T17:47:53Z")

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> Except caricatures in political cartoons aren’t misleading, its pretty clear to people they’re not meant to be realistic depictions. According to the OP’s links, this wasn’t done during the Fox report.

I’m on your side about Fox being unethical in running these, especially without saying they’d been altered, but have you _LOOKED_ at the altered pictures? It’s hard to believe anyone accepting those as real pictures. They’re blatantly deformed.

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**Author:** ![Simplicio](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/c37758/32.png) [@Simplicio](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Simplicio)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2008, 5:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-scum-bags/455574/45 "2008-07-10T17:57:21Z")

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[QUOTE=CalMeacham]  
I’m on your side about Fox being unethical in running these, especially without saying they’d been altered, but have you _LOOKED_ at the altered pictures? It’s hard to believe anyone accepting those as real pictures. They’re blatantly deformed.  
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In the context of a website saying: “look at these photoshopped faces” that’s certainly true. But actually watching the show, where they throw up the faces for ~5 seconds each, I don’t think its that obvious.

Actually, you can see the pictures in context in the linked video in the Media Matters website. YMMV (and your TV might be bigger then mine) but I don’t think its that blatant unless your looking for it, especially given that I think most of us assume pictures shown during news broadcasts (even commentary) are accurate.

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**Author:** ![MovieMogul](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/f08c70/32.png) [@MovieMogul](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/MovieMogul)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2008, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-scum-bags/455574/46 "2008-07-10T19:18:35Z")

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Well, [Vanity Fair](http://www.vanityfair.com/online/politics/2008/07/photoshop-of-horrors-the-frightful-faces-of-fox-news.html) has a slideshow of Fox News personalities with their photos similarly (or to be quite honest, more grotesquely) manipulated. Brain-scrubbing payback indeed.

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**Author:** ![CalMeacham](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/calmeacham/32/35_2.png) [@CalMeacham](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CalMeacham)\
**Post date:** [July 10, 2008, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-scum-bags/455574/47 "2008-07-10T19:25:09Z")

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> In the context of a website saying: “look at these photoshopped faces” that’s certainly true. But actually watching the show, where they throw up the faces for ~5 seconds each, I don’t think its that obvious.

I beg to differ. If I were shown those faces, without the originals and with no context, clearly and for as long as 5 seconds, my reaction would be “who’s been screwing with these faces” (or jusy possibly “Those poor deformed bastards”, depending on how groggy I was) – those faces are grotesque.

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**Author:** ![Talon\_Karrde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Talon\_Karrde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Talon_Karrde)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 2:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-scum-bags/455574/48 "2008-07-11T02:26:36Z")

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[QUOTE=CalMeacham]  
I beg to differ. If I were shown those faces, without the originals and with no context, clearly and for as long as 5 seconds, my reaction would be “who’s been screwing with these faces” (or jusy possibly “Those poor deformed bastards”, depending on how groggy I was) – those faces are grotesque.  
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Yes, but you probably have more awareness than the actual Fox News viewer. They have a lot of older viewers who probably haven’t been on the internet much and seen what photoshop can do.

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**Author:** ![Talon\_Karrde](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Talon\_Karrde](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Talon_Karrde)\
**Post date:** [July 11, 2008, 2:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-scum-bags/455574/49 "2008-07-11T02:32:05Z")

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[QUOTE=CalMeacham]  
I beg to differ. If I were shown those faces, without the originals and with no context, clearly and for as long as 5 seconds, my reaction would be “who’s been screwing with these faces” (or jusy possibly “Those poor deformed bastards”, depending on how groggy I was) – those faces are grotesque.  
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And you can forget what I just said. I read your entire post this time and see you weren’t saying what I thought you were saying. :smack:

Um… hey, does anyone else think Brit Hume’s Vanity Fair picture looks kind of like William H Macy?

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