# Fox News: You've earned your own Pit Thread!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-youve-earned-your-own-pit-thread/296166>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [March 25, 2005, 5:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-youve-earned-your-own-pit-thread/296166 "2005-03-25T05:57:29Z")\
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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [March 25, 2005, 10:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-youve-earned-your-own-pit-thread/296166/41 "2005-03-25T22:15:59Z")

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Well, you guys can either keep bitching about it on a message board, or be proactive and buy one of [these.](http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/tv/aptv_story.asp?category=1401&slug=TV%20Fox%20Blocker)😉

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**Author:** ![Harborwolf](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/c89c15/32.png) [@Harborwolf](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Harborwolf)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2005, 2:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-youve-earned-your-own-pit-thread/296166/42 "2005-03-26T02:38:14Z")

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> [@duffer](#):
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> Well, you guys can either keep bitching about it on a message board, or be proactive and buy one of [these.](http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/tv/aptv_story.asp?category=1401&slug=TV%20Fox%20Blocker)😉

The fox blocker cite isn’t loading for me, but please tell me that it’s a set of rabbit ears and the whole thing is a whoosh. Do not tell me that somebody was… I don’t know what enough to actually build a device for the sole purpose of blocking fox news.

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2005, 2:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-youve-earned-your-own-pit-thread/296166/43 "2005-03-26T02:46:44Z")

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> [@Diogenes the Cynic](#):
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> Unfortunately, yes amd Mrs. Dio is none too happy about it.
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> My daughter thinks it’s funny when daddy starts swearing at the TV. She knows daddy curses at Bill O’Reilly and she says, “Daddy, quit saying bad words and just turn that jerk off.” Good advice which I’ve been heeding of late.

Heh heh. She just said jerk off. Heh.

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**Author:** ![5\_time\_champ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/278dde/32.png) [@5\_time\_champ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5_time_champ)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2005, 2:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-youve-earned-your-own-pit-thread/296166/44 "2005-03-26T02:59:55Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> And Jonathan Edwards was a Puritan homilist best known for such cheerful pieces as “Sinners In the Hands of an Angry God”…

Yeah, but he also liked to  
_lay around the shanty  
and put a good buzz on_.

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**Author:** ![Good\_Egg](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/96bed5/32.png) [@Good\_Egg](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Good_Egg)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2005, 3:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-youve-earned-your-own-pit-thread/296166/45 "2005-03-26T03:10:27Z")

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They couldn’t get Sylvia Brown cause they couldn’t afford her. ha! Strangely, I am watching Animal Cops. They are going all out to save these animals which were aandoned in a house and were dehydrating and needing food. And the owner was actually in trouble for this. And here its okay to do it to a human. Food for thought. Food for thought. ☹

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**Author:** ![Tuckerfan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/eada6e/32.png) [@Tuckerfan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tuckerfan)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2005, 3:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-youve-earned-your-own-pit-thread/296166/46 "2005-03-26T03:18:24Z")

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> [@tdn](#):
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> Gee, thanks for a mental image that I truly did not need. John Edward with big boobs. _shudder_

I would highly recommend that you _not_ watch _Star Trek Nemesis_ while that image is lingering in your brain. Unless, of course, you _like_ the thought of seeing Riker on top of Edward, pounding away for all he’s worth at Edward’s “gloryhole.”

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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2005, 3:22am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-youve-earned-your-own-pit-thread/296166/47 "2005-03-26T03:22:44Z")

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> [@Harborwolf](#):
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> The fox blocker cite isn’t loading for me, but please tell me that it’s a set of rabbit ears and the whole thing is a whoosh. Do not tell me that somebody was… I don’t know what enough to actually build a device for the sole purpose of blocking fox news.

Well, [this](http://mambo.foxblocker.com/) is the site. It’s a new story so I’m sure it’s busy. It’s basically a cylinder (remember the old HBO descramblers?) that connects the coax to the tv. Only $8.95! (God, I’m gonna laugh if this is a hoax)

Anyway, for everyone sick of the channel, **DO** something about it! Block the signal from your home entirely! Lest little Johnnie or Suzy stumble upon it while looking for Stern or Springer.

This product will save the _CHILDREN!!!_

[sub]Note: Failure to buy this product proves you hate children. [/sub]

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**Author:** ![Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/8edcca/32.png) [@Hentor\_the\_Barbarian](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hentor_the_Barbarian)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2005, 3:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-youve-earned-your-own-pit-thread/296166/48 "2005-03-26T03:58:18Z")

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Daily Kos has a few notes on the apparently growing rabid and dangerous quality of opponents of Michael and Terri Schiavo, several of whom are considering killing others in support of the Culture of Life.

[http://www.dailykos.com/](http://www.dailykos.com/)

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> Over the last three days or so, however, the coverage on the Little Three news networks – Fox, CNN, MSNBC – has ceased to be humorous. There is a difference between bad coverage and willfully irresponsible coverage, and another line between willfully irresponsible coverage and dangerously irresponsible coverage. In the last three days, those lines have been crossed. Repeatedly. And it has been absolutely, definitively intentional.

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> CNN is reporting that the FBI has arrested a North Carolina man for offering, via the internet, a reward of $200,000 for the murder of Michael Schiavo, and an additional $50,000 for the murder of Judge Greer. (Link when it becomes available.)

Are they whipping people into a frenzy? How can we address such a problem?

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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2005, 4:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-youve-earned-your-own-pit-thread/296166/49 "2005-03-26T04:36:09Z")

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You address them the same as any other criminal. We live in a nation of what, 300 million people? There are going to be a few nuts.

Hasn’t the White House been fired upon while both Bush and Clinton were President? It ain’t politics. It’s about the fruitcakes that look for reasons to act out. And it will always happen.

Psychosis has been around for centuries. They need little reason to see a need to fight anyone and anything. And it has nothing to do with what’s on TV. It could be a video game, malfunctiong dishwasher or a dust bunny.

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**Author:** ![TV\_time](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f17d59/32.png) [@TV\_time](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TV_time)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2005, 4:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-youve-earned-your-own-pit-thread/296166/50 "2005-03-26T04:58:42Z")

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> [@DoctorJ](#):
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> Fox News: You’ve earned your own Pit Thread!

No, I have to disagree with you. By now they have at least earned sub-forum or mini-forum status of some kind as a division of the Pit

They have been Pitted more times than Jack Chick, George W. Bush and **December** combined.

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**Author:** ![Apos](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/838e76/32.png) [@Apos](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Apos)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2005, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-youve-earned-your-own-pit-thread/296166/51 "2005-03-26T05:31:08Z")

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> [@Good Egg](#):
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> They couldn’t get Sylvia Brown cause they couldn’t afford her. ha! Strangely, I am watching Animal Cops. They are going all out to save these animals which were aandoned in a house and were dehydrating and needing food. And the owner was actually in trouble for this. And here its okay to do it to a human. Food for thought. Food for thought. ☹

Were any of them in a PVS?

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**Author:** ![DoctorJ](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/doctorj/32/2904_2.png) [@DoctorJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DoctorJ)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2005, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-youve-earned-your-own-pit-thread/296166/52 "2005-03-26T05:39:26Z")

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> [@](#):
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> Anyway, for everyone sick of the channel, DO something about it! Block the signal from your home entirely!

Well, like I said in my OP, I’ve already managed to do that, and it didn’t even require an $8.95 device–I do it by not having cable. I can’t remember the last time I laid eyes on the channel.

Lots of people do, though, and then they come to message boards spouting outright falsehoods that they got from Hannity, O’Reilly, or even Fox’s various purportedly news-bearing anchorchoads.

So the usual “change the channel!” bullshit won’t fly here.

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**Author:** ![Annie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/858c86/32.png) [@Annie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Annie)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2005, 5:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-youve-earned-your-own-pit-thread/296166/53 "2005-03-26T05:54:09Z")

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> [@WhyNot](#):
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> Really, haven’t you noticed he’s simply Deana Troi with a haircut and boob reduction?

Yeah, but has he ever threatened to eject a Romulan into space??? 😛

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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2005, 6:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-youve-earned-your-own-pit-thread/296166/54 "2005-03-26T06:14:44Z")

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> [@DoctorJ](#):
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> So the usual “change the channel!” bullshit won’t fly here.

I didn’t expect it to, that’s why I didn’t say it. If it’s truly all bullshit, people will recognize it and it’ll go by the wayside. There’s disinformation on every channel, and to single out Fox News seems disingenuous.

However, if their spin sells better than yours, maybe it’s because your opinion is in the minority overall. I watch both Fox and CNN. I see bias in both. One to the left, one to the right. Guess which one I enjoy watching more? Guess which one has the better ratings?

Rant all you want. It sounds like the base feeling is, _“But I don’t like them!”_

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**Author:** ![Man\_from\_Mars](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c5a1d2/32.png) [@Man\_from\_Mars](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Man_from_Mars)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2005, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-youve-earned-your-own-pit-thread/296166/55 "2005-03-26T07:00:00Z")

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Quote:  
CNN is reporting that the FBI has arrested a North Carolina man for offering, via the internet, a reward of $200,000 for the murder of Michael Schiavo, and an additional $50,000 for the murder of Judge Greer. (Link when it becomes available.)  
Apparently the “culture of life” is expensive business.

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**Author:** ![Contrapuntal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/e274bd/32.png) [@Contrapuntal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Contrapuntal)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2005, 7:18am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-youve-earned-your-own-pit-thread/296166/56 "2005-03-26T07:18:52Z")

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[CNN link](http://www.cnn.com/2005/US/03/25/arrest.schiavo/index.html)

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**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2005, 7:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-youve-earned-your-own-pit-thread/296166/57 "2005-03-26T07:37:05Z")

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> [@](#):
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> **duffer** : Anyway, for everyone sick of the channel, DO something about it! Block the signal from your home entirely!

I’d much rather help to sponsor a nightly program that has the sole purpose of exposing Fox’s lies and propaganda techniques (two different things).

I strongly believe in First Amendment Rights. At the same time, I see that the media in this country is owned by few and fewer corporations. It becomes crucial for citizens to be aware of which news stations and broadcasts are blatantly using techniques of propoganda that were spelled out back when Fox was just a movie studio.

Having a _slight_ slant to the Right or Left on a program is one thing – undesireable, but sometimes it happens. An example might be the use of the word “The President _claims_” instead of the the words "the President _said."_. But intentional lying, distortion, disinformation, misinformation, and the use of propoganda in news programming are subversive to a free society. Failure to retract and apologize when a mistake has been made is another bad sign.

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> **duffer** : And it has nothing to do with what’s on TV.

\<snip\>

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> If it’s truly all bullshit, people will recognize it and it’ll go by the wayside.

History indicates otherwise. I am old enough to remember the House Committe on UnAmerican Activities and the McCarthy Hearings that were on television and what that did to our country. An entire nation was frightened and intimidated into silence and made fearful of their neighbors. _Finally_, one newsman, a Southerner from the Carolinas, named Edward R. Murrow, had the gumption to call **bullshit.**

As idiotic as it may sound, some people actually turn to Fox as their main source of information. _That_ is frightening.

My latest small gripe with Fox was their question of the day yesterday: Is it _Mercy_ or is it _Murder_?

No class at all.

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**Author:** ![duffer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/duffer/32/1026_2.png) [@duffer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/duffer)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2005, 7:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-youve-earned-your-own-pit-thread/296166/58 "2005-03-26T07:41:46Z")

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> [@Zoe](#):
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> My latest small gripe with Fox was their question of the day yesterday: Is it _Mercy_ or is it _Murder_?
> 
> No class at all.

Considering the polarizing effect this case is having, it seems a fair poll. Every news source I’ve seen has a similar one. What’s the problem? The wording? It seems it’s either one or the other (given only 2 choices).

Maybe you should contact the news outlets and let them know what questions are asked and how they’re worded. I’m not being snarky, but if that adds to your hate of Fox, let them know that you know best.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2005, 7:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-youve-earned-your-own-pit-thread/296166/59 "2005-03-26T07:46:11Z")

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> [@Acaciacath](#):
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> Does anyone have a link to a site so I can see what John Edwards had to say?

It appears about five minutes into this [Jon Stewart show clip](http://www.comedycentral.com/tv_shows/thedailyshowwithjonstewart/).

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**Author:** ![Sample\_the\_Dog](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/8797f3/32.png) [@Sample\_the\_Dog](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sample_the_Dog)\
**Post date:** [March 26, 2005, 2:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fox-news-youve-earned-your-own-pit-thread/296166/60 "2005-03-26T14:37:52Z")

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I would actually encourage those who hate what Fox is doing to watch/read their stuff from time to time. I knew they were shills, but didn’t realize the extent of it til I checked out some links on this board. Now I keep occasional tabs.

If we turn our backs, that’s to their advantage.

As for folks getting all their news from Fox, I recently was in a household where Fox news stayed on the (very large and prominently positioned) TV all day. They just left it on.

What’s even more dangerous is this… A woman at work said recently that her mother had expressed some doubts about Bush’s Social Security plan. So she told her mother to stop watching network news (other than Fox) because it was all propaganda paid for by the liberals, and it’s just “not true”! :eek: ☹ :mad:

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