# FoxNation

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnation/515277>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [October 27, 2009, 8:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnation/515277 "2009-10-27T08:25:06Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 4:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnation/515277/21 "2009-10-27T16:47:07Z")

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Yes, but the Dems don’t go around calling for people who “desecrate” the flag to be hung in the town square.

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**Author:** ![VinylTurnip](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/b2d939/32.png) [@VinylTurnip](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/VinylTurnip)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 4:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnation/515277/22 "2009-10-27T16:55:09Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> Michelle Obama is easily the hottest first lady since Jackie Kennedy

Faint praise, right up there with “smartest NASCAR fan,” “best Jim Varney movie,” and “slenderest Doper.”

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 5:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnation/515277/23 "2009-10-27T17:07:38Z")

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I don’t really understand the obsession with Michelle Obama’s looks. She’s a pretty well put-together lady, neither ugly, nor drop-dead gorgeous.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 5:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnation/515277/24 "2009-10-27T17:11:55Z")

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That.

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 5:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnation/515277/25 "2009-10-27T17:13:00Z")

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> [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](#):
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> Yes, but the Dems don’t go around calling for people who “desecrate” the flag to be hung in the town square.

Amusingly, Chuck Norris was [hawking tea-stained US flags](http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2009/09/24/chuck-norris-to-america-hoist-that-tea-stained-flag/). Dunking our flag in tea sure seems like desecration to this ex-Boy Scout.

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**Author:** ![gaffa](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/e68b1a/32.png) [@gaffa](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gaffa)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnation/515277/26 "2009-10-27T17:16:12Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> I don’t really understand the obsession with Michelle Obama’s looks. She’s a pretty well put-together lady, neither ugly, nor drop-dead gorgeous.

I admire her, but if hotness of First Lady were the prime consideration, [Dennis Kucinich would be president right now](http://static.hometheaterforum.com/imgrepo/e/ed/htf_imgcache_19343.jpeg).

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnation/515277/27 "2009-10-27T17:26:56Z")

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> [@gaffa](#):
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> Amusingly, Chuck Norris was [hawking tea-stained US flags](http://features.csmonitor.com/politics/2009/09/24/chuck-norris-to-america-hoist-that-tea-stained-flag/). Dunking our flag in tea sure seems like desecration to this ex-Boy Scout.

I’m pretty sure Chuck was talking about buying a flag that was made from tea-stained fabric, a point that seems to have eluded **CSM**.

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnation/515277/28 "2009-10-27T17:29:14Z")

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A petty point of law worthy of Bill Clinton. A defaced flag is a defaced flag, even if you do the defacing before the fact.

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 5:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnation/515277/29 "2009-10-27T17:31:43Z")

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How do they make red fabric, or blue?

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**Author:** ![Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/e8c25b/32.png) [@Really\_Not\_All\_That\_Bright](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Really_Not_All_That_Bright)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnation/515277/30 "2009-10-27T17:34:16Z")

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Who makes flags with artificial tea stains?

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**Author:** ![HookerChemical](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/h/278dde/32.png) [@HookerChemical](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/HookerChemical)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 5:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnation/515277/31 "2009-10-27T17:38:09Z")

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Sure, the comments are classless, but there have been a lot more vitriolic, insulting, and misdirected from both sides. If that’s all they have to bring against health care reform, let them bring it and let the world see how little there is to their argument.

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**Author:** ![Xan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/ac8455/32.png) [@Xan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xan)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnation/515277/32 "2009-10-27T18:07:51Z")

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Humans are shit no matter their political bent.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 6:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnation/515277/33 "2009-10-27T18:15:23Z")

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> [@Xan](#):
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> Humans are shit no matter their political bent.

:rolleyes:

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**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnation/515277/34 "2009-10-27T18:29:51Z")

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> [@bup](#):
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> How do they make red fabric, or blue?

Are you suggesting that they use red or blue tea? Or are you equating dying a fabric with staining it with tea?

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 6:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnation/515277/35 "2009-10-27T18:34:09Z")

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Did they stain the fabric with tea before making the flags or did they buy fabric that was already stained with tea?

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**Author:** ![bup](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/6bbea6/32.png) [@bup](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bup)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 6:54pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnation/515277/36 "2009-10-27T18:54:51Z")

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> [@Giles](#):
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> Are you suggesting that they use red or blue tea? Or are you equating dying a fabric with staining it with tea?

I’m equating dying with staining. Neither is desecration.

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**Author:** ![Xan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/ac8455/32.png) [@Xan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xan)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 7:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnation/515277/37 "2009-10-27T19:11:56Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> :rolleyes:

Fuck you cunt.

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**Author:** ![Jack\_Batty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jack_batty/32/3201_2.png) [@Jack\_Batty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jack_Batty)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 7:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnation/515277/38 "2009-10-27T19:15:00Z")

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**Xan** , I think you missed, “Fuck off and die” for the I Dare the Mods to Ban Me Trifecta.

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**Author:** ![mswas](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/e99b99/32.png) [@mswas](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mswas)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 7:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnation/515277/39 "2009-10-27T19:18:13Z")

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> [@Xan](#):
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> Fuck you cunt.

I’d rather be a cunt than shit, that’s a step up for sure! I like cunts, I adore them in fact!

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**Author:** ![Xan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/x/ac8455/32.png) [@Xan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Xan)\
**Post date:** [October 27, 2009, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnation/515277/40 "2009-10-27T19:19:26Z")

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> [@mswas](#):
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> I’d rather be a cunt than shit, that’s a step up for sure! I like cunts, I adore them in fact!

No, see humans are shit. You’re a shit _and_ a cunt.

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