# FOXNews--Fair and balanced my ass: At last the truth comes out! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 30, 2002, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593 "2002-11-30T03:32:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![WSLer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a6a055/32.png) [@WSLer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WSLer)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593/1 "2002-11-30T03:32:00Z")
From the Op-Ed page of Friday’s NYTimes, in the column by Paul Krugman, comes the following little tidbit: “\*The political agenda of FoxNews, to take the most important example, is hardly obscure. Roger Ailes, the network’s chairman, has been advising the Bush administration. Fox’s Brit Hume even claimed credit for the midterm election. ‘\ ***It was because of our coverage that it happened** ,’ _he told Don Imus._ **'People watch us and take their electoral clues from us. No one should doubt the influence of FoxNews in these matters.** ’” _Fair and balanced_ my ass.:rolleyes: :rolleyes: Fox News should change its slogan to something a little more truthful, like: **FOXNews. We decieve. You follow along like mindless sheep.** \* \*Yeah I know I used that quote in another post, what of it. It still fits. ---
**Author:** ![Soup\_du\_jour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Soup\_du\_jour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soup_du_jour)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 5:08am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593/2 "2002-11-30T05:08:14Z")
You needed the NY Times to tell you that Fox News is obnoxiously biased? :eek: I figured it out and all I had to do was watch the bloody network. 😉 Oh, the quote is still valid, by the way. ---
**Author:** ![JonScribe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/3be4f8/32.png) [@JonScribe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JonScribe)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 5:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593/3 "2002-11-30T05:10:48Z")
Laughable. I talk my marching orders for how I vote from Oprah. Well, that and the little voices in my head. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593/4 "2002-11-30T05:12:13Z")
I heard the Brit Hume interview on Imus. He was being sarcastic. If you’ve ever listened to Imus’ show you would understand. Imus jokingly forced Hume into making that statement. Haj ---
**Author:** ![Vic\_Ferrari](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/v/dbc845/32.png) [@Vic\_Ferrari](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Vic_Ferrari)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 5:12am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593/5 "2002-11-30T05:12:14Z")
Paul Krugman has used his gigantic brain to “discover” what the entire country’s known for years, no wonder he works for the New York Times. I wonder if FNC keeps their tagline just to hear the howling about it. That said, I’m not so sure that the “news” portion of Fox News is all that biased. Flashy, shallow and glib maybe, but not hugely biased. It’s their analysis shows where the bias is strong, most everyone is conservative. The one liberal that I can think of on the network is that goofy looking pinhead who’s on their Crossfire rip-off. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 5:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593/6 "2002-11-30T05:49:15Z")
We report, WE fucking decide! ---
**Author:** ![Witch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/258eb7/32.png) [@Witch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Witch)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 5:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593/7 "2002-11-30T05:51:17Z")
Too true **Dio**. I can’t watch that sorry excuse for a news station for more than five minutes without pitching something at the screen. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593/8 "2002-11-30T05:55:38Z")
The worst is Bill O’Reilly. I can’t stand the guy, but I feel morbidly compelled to watch. The guy would be mincemeat on the SDMB. ---
**Author:** ![Witch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/258eb7/32.png) [@Witch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Witch)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593/9 "2002-11-30T06:04:36Z")
Oh, Bill’s my favorite snuggly bunny too **Dio**. I especially like how he always looks like he has a hot poker rammed up his ass, which may explain his ill-bred and bad tempered habit of never letting any of his guests have the last word. Sean Hannity is another pissah. He’s such a numb-nut I have to ask myself at times if it isn’t an act. The thought that it isn’t is extremely frightening to me. ---
**Author:** ![Monster104](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/c6cbf5/32.png) [@Monster104](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monster104)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 6:19am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593/10 "2002-11-30T06:19:42Z")
It’s better than CNN. ---
**Author:** ![Witch](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/258eb7/32.png) [@Witch](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Witch)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 6:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593/11 "2002-11-30T06:29:17Z")
I’ll take CNN anyday. At least you don’t have to put up with that show-bizzy type feel. And Fox has the worst morning news show EVER. Nope, I’d rather hang with Paula Zahn. At least I don’t have to listen to Van Halen at the station breaks in a desperate attempt to be hip, or listen to that dickhead Mancow(I know it’s only for 2 minutes or so, but it feels like an eternity.) ---
**Author:** ![butter\_pie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/aca169/32.png) [@butter\_pie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/butter_pie)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 6:40am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593/12 "2002-11-30T06:40:01Z")
I’m sorry, if you want me to make a comment on how fair and/or balanced your ass is, I’m going to need a picture… er, cite. ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 6:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593/13 "2002-11-30T06:44:56Z")
Right back at you, **Jin**. I think you lean a little to the left, but I feel as though I must check to be certain. 😉 ---
**Author:** ![I\_can\_t\_believe\_that\_s\_butter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/8edcca/32.png) [@I\_can\_t\_believe\_that\_s\_butter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/I_can_t_believe_that_s_butter)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 7:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593/14 "2002-11-30T07:00:58Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Monster104 \* > \*\*It’s better than CNN. \*\* That I’d agree with. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 7:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593/15 "2002-11-30T07:10:50Z")
> [@](#): > > _Originally posted by Witch_Sean Hannity is another pissah. He’s such a numb-nut I have to ask myself at times if it isn’t an act. The thought that it isn’t is extremely frightening to me. I agree completely. Sean Hannity is smarm incarnate. And is it just me or does it seem like Alan Colmes gets to say about four words an episode, and the rest is just that smug little fucktard Hannity spouting the GOP’s daily talking points or ranting on at the guests in his typically uninformed and polemic way instead of asking them questions? ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 8:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593/16 "2002-11-30T08:21:58Z")
WSLer wrote: > [@](#): > > Fox’s Brit Hume even claimed credit for the midterm election. ‘It was because of our coverage that it happened,’ he told Don Imus. ‘People watch us and take their electoral clues from us. No one should doubt the influence of FoxNews in these matters.’" Just when you thought the _NYT_ couldn’t sink to a new low. That sort of deliberate misrepresentation — Hume was **joking** , people — by extremist-left news sources is no doubt one reason that Fox News has taken over. People are sick of liberal preachiness and disreputable fabrications. ---
**Author:** ![Zoe](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/z/a4c791/32.png) [@Zoe](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Zoe)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 8:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593/17 "2002-11-30T08:36:53Z")
What I don’t understand is why Conservatives would have someone as dim as O’Reilly as a spokesperson. What gives? ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 8:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593/18 "2002-11-30T08:42:35Z")
That’s a good question, although O’Reilly has said that he is not conservative, but independent (whatever that means). ---
**Author:** ![Soup\_du\_jour](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/848f3c/32.png) [@Soup\_du\_jour](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Soup_du_jour)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 8:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593/19 "2002-11-30T08:44:55Z")
**Lib** , can’t someone be both independant and conservative? Nevertheless, I’d bet that Mr O’Reilly votes for the elephant more often than for the donkey. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [November 30, 2002, 9:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593/20 "2002-11-30T09:03:00Z")
[…shrug…] Sure, I guess so. Frankly, I’d love to see a libertarian news source. One that points out, for example, the irony of conservative presidents creating brand new federal bureaucracies. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593.md?page=2)