# FOXNews--Fair and balanced my ass: At last the truth comes out! **URL:** \ **Category:** The BBQ Pit\ **Created:** [November 30, 2002, 3:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593 "2002-11-30T03:32:00Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 5
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 1:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593/81 "2002-12-04T13:23:40Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by litost \* > \*\*_Is it just me or are most of the representatives of the Religious Right (apart from the main bosses) young, very pretty women, well made-up with seductive smiles_, while the liberal side presents aging, bespectacled women ? \*\* It’s just you. (gag). I hope you’re not thinking of the person I think you’re thinking of. ---
**Author:** ![Oblong](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/c0e974/32.png) [@Oblong](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Oblong)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 1:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593/82 "2002-12-04T13:34:37Z")
NAY!!! There’s a couple of hotties. Kelly Ann Fitzpatrick, Monica Crowley, Heck, even Peggy Noonan is sort of hot for an older broad. Not Ann Colter. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 2:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593/83 "2002-12-04T14:15:12Z")
Two words: Laurie Duhe. […please, heart, stop that!..] ---
**Author:** ![litost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@litost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/litost)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 6:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593/84 "2002-12-04T18:44:31Z")
Yes, I was thinking about Annie Coulter! No, really. I was not referring to the news readers at FNC either (Linda Vester, Laurie Dhue and the rest of the extremely-short-skirt gang) but the self-proclaimed analysts who keep poppin’ up on all shows on the side of the Religious Right in particular. After some googling, here’s some names, all blondes, in no particular order: Monica Crawley Kelly Ann Fitzpatrick Laura Ingraham Kathleen Parker Debbie Schlussel Ann Coulter (the last two try hard, and for fetishists, they could be, well, very attractive!) I have named names! (I still think there are a few more out there) ---
**Author:** ![js\_africanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/87869e/32.png) [@js\_africanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/js_africanus)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593/85 "2002-12-04T22:51:54Z")
Fox News? I’m not familiar with that channel. It does sound an awful lot like one we do get, it’s called _Logical Fallacy Land_. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 10:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593/86 "2002-12-04T22:55:06Z")
Is it anything like the _Contradiction News Network_? Or the _Mostly Stupid News By Cretins_? ---
**Author:** ![js\_africanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/87869e/32.png) [@js\_africanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/js_africanus)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 11:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593/87 "2002-12-04T23:00:25Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Libertarian \* > \*\*Is it anything like the _Contradiction News Network_? Or the _Mostly Stupid News By Cretins_? \*\* That’s funny! I laughed out loud. Thanks, I needed that. ---
**Author:** ![furt](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/439d5e/32.png) [@furt](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/furt)\ **Post date:** [December 4, 2002, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593/88 "2002-12-04T23:24:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Libertarian \* > \*\*Two words: Laurie Duhe. \*\* I sure hope she does… d&r ---
**Author:** ![Jackmannii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jackmannii/32/311_2.png) [@Jackmannii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Jackmannii)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2002, 3:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593/89 "2002-12-05T03:56:03Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by litost \* > \*\*Yes, I was thinking about Annie Coulter! > \*\* I could have sworn you were going to confess your unrequited lust for Tammy Faye Bakker. 😃 ---
**Author:** ![litost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@litost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/litost)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2002, 8:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593/90 "2002-12-05T08:30:05Z")
Is she the one on the 700 club? (if yes, I confess) ---
**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2002, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593/91 "2002-12-05T17:39:28Z")
I find it amusing that the liberals used to tell conservatives to stop bitching and moaning about the liberal bias in the media. Now, that there is one network who is not left leaning they can’t stop bitching and moaning about it. ---
**Author:** ![Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e99b99/32.png) [@Diogenes\_the\_Cynic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Diogenes_the_Cynic)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2002, 6:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593/92 "2002-12-05T18:02:32Z")
The liberal bias on the networks was _imaginary_. The right-wing agenda on Fox is _real._ ---
**Author:** ![december](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/838e76/32.png) [@december](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/december)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2002, 6:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593/93 "2002-12-05T18:29:30Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Diogenes the Cynic \* > \*\*The liberal bias on the networks was _imaginary_. The right-wing agenda on Fox is _real._ \*\* And I’m the Queen of Bavaria. ---
**Author:** ![Ulterior](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/85f322/32.png) [@Ulterior](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ulterior)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2002, 6:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593/94 "2002-12-05T18:38:05Z")
Anyone’s perceptions of bias in the media are going to be informed by their _own_ bias, inherently. **Lib** will see CNN as left wing and Fox as fairly moderate. **Dio** will see the liberal bias of the networks as imaginary and the right-wing agenda on Fox as real. In the end, I think that objectivity is absolutely impossible. Therefore, the logical solution is to read widely, and subject your own ideas to the same critical analysis you apply to anyone else’s. All you really need is broad-mindedness. -Ulterior PS: I was in NYC in the spring of 2000, watching Fox News as an innocent Canuck, on the day that the American pilots were returned from China. The anchor got “China” confused with “Japan” _twice_… e.g. “Hainan Island, off Japan”. I don’t remember who the anchor was. I don’t think this has an effect on whether they’re left wing or right wing; but I do think it means that they have a tendency to hire total ditzes. ---
**Author:** ![lurkernomore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@lurkernomore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lurkernomore)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2002, 6:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593/95 "2002-12-05T18:42:53Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Diogenes the Cynic \* > \*\*The liberal bias on the networks was _imaginary_. The right-wing agenda on Fox is _real._ \*\* Cite? I’ve cited Harriss and Gallup polls. I cited WALTER CRONKITE. You are more an expert on the media that Newsweek bureau chiefs and Walter Cronkite? ---
**Author:** ![lurkernomore](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/d6d6ee/32.png) [@lurkernomore](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lurkernomore)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2002, 6:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593/96 "2002-12-05T18:46:10Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Ulterior \* > \*\*I do think it means that they have a tendency to hire total ditzes. \*\* Yeah, but I bet the Talking Head had a great haircut… The on-camera people just read what is written in many cases. They try to put out Pretty Faces(both sexes). The bias is the writer, not the reader. ---
**Author:** ![Liberal](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/848f3c/32.png) [@Liberal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Liberal)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2002, 6:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593/97 "2002-12-05T18:59:26Z")
Ulterior wrote: > [@](#): > > Lib will see CNN as left wing and Fox as fairly moderate. No, I see CNN as left wing and Fox as right wing. For example, Fox loves to point out the irony in the actions of certain liberals vis-a-vis their alleged principles (e.g., the speakers at the Wellstone wake/rally). But I recently lambasted Fox for failing to point out the irony of a Republican president (who should be working to reduce government’s size) who is creating a whole new huge cabinet-level federal bureaucracy. I’m neither left nor right wing. I’m libertarian. ---
**Author:** ![litost](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c4cdca/32.png) [@litost](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/litost)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2002, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593/98 "2002-12-05T20:14:02Z")
Both CNN and Fox are libert-wing. When is the libertarian bias in mainstream media going to end? ---
**Author:** ![ElvisL1ves](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/5daacb/32.png) [@ElvisL1ves](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ElvisL1ves)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2002, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593/99 "2002-12-05T20:21:19Z")
Even [Rush Limbaugh](http://www.rushlimbaugh.com/home/daily/site_112002/content/cutting_edge.guest.html) now says the media is conservative, not liberal. ---
**Author:** ![carrot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/9de0a6/32.png) [@carrot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carrot)\ **Post date:** [December 5, 2002, 8:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593/100 "2002-12-05T20:33:52Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by december \* > \*\*And I’m the Queen of Bavaria. \*\* Cite? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593.md?page=4) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/foxnews-fair-and-balanced-my-ass-at-last-the-truth-comes-out/139593.md?page=6)