# Frack. I think I might be an addict. **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [November 12, 2008, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frack-i-think-i-might-be-an-addict/472391 "2008-11-12T19:01:58Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 7:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frack-i-think-i-might-be-an-addict/472391/1 "2008-11-12T19:01:58Z")
It started off as appropriate self-medication, honestly it did. Just once or twice a day, and sweet, sweet relief. I could finally sleep! I’ve used a lot in the past, but I’ve always been able to keep it under control. But now it’s gotten out of hand, and I need another fix and I have to quit. Cold turkey’s really the only way to go, there’s no medical support for this. _SNORRRRKFFFGAAAHHHKKKKLL_ Juht day dno to [Afrin](http://www.afrin.com/), kids. ---
**Author:** ![CrazyCatLady](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/dfb087/32.png) [@CrazyCatLady](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/CrazyCatLady)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 7:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frack-i-think-i-might-be-an-addict/472391/2 "2008-11-12T19:16:17Z")
The shitty thing about Afrin and related products is that using them over the course of a couple days actually causes irritation, which leads to swelling and, er, sinus congestion. So you can’t breathe unless you use it, but if you use it you can’t breathe. I’ve found that just irrigating with plain saline works about as well as anything–use some Afrin or whatever to shift things initially, then in a few hours (about halfway through the dosing period, usually) irrigate with plain saline to clear out whatever’s gathered since then. Repeat saline irrigation as needed. ---
**Author:** ![Freudian\_Slip\_1](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/f475e1/32.png) [@Freudian\_Slip\_1](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Freudian_Slip_1)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frack-i-think-i-might-be-an-addict/472391/3 "2008-11-12T19:17:36Z")
Nasal decongestant sprays are BAD with a capital B. Not giving medical advice, but my father tapered off NeoSynephrine by gradually (and increasingly) diluting each bottle with saline. He still had stuffiness, but not nearly as bad as quitting cold turkey. FS ---
**Author:** ![lieu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/c2a13f/32.png) [@lieu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lieu)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 7:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frack-i-think-i-might-be-an-addict/472391/4 "2008-11-12T19:19:18Z")
I went there once, Neo-Synephrine, but came back. Ugh, the only thing worse than chronic allergies is chronic allergies temporarily masked and then exacerbated by nose sprays. Cold turkey worked for me and you’re Betty Badass in comparison. You can do it. Ditto on the saline. It’s all I use, or need, now. Oh, one more thing… I used Afrin during one and only one bad sinus episode and it so fried my olfactory that I couldn’t smell for 6 months or taste for a year. That was horrible. ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 7:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frack-i-think-i-might-be-an-addict/472391/5 "2008-11-12T19:25:46Z")
> [@CrazyCatLady](#): > > The shitty thing about Afrin and related products is that using them over the course of a couple days actually causes irritation, which leads to swelling and, er, sinus congestion. Yep. I’ve had seriously terrible allergies this fall (first year ever!) and bad nasal congestion. Claritin worked for about 2 days, and then nothing, and Sudafed and Phenylephrine don’t do squat for me. Afrin, however, works great! I’ve used it before for up to about 5 days with no problem. I guess I lost count this time. The good news is, I think the Zyrtec I took this morning kicked the allergies (unless it’s another one day wonder) 'cause I don’t actually have any more \*runny \*nose. But it’s completely, utterly, mouthbreathingly blocked up. Just not with mucus. It must be inflammation. I’m going to go check out the bottle and see if it can be opened and filled with saline instead. That sounds like a plan. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 7:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frack-i-think-i-might-be-an-addict/472391/6 "2008-11-12T19:32:13Z")
Just suck it up and get your turbinates bored out. It’ll take a small family of mice living in your sinus to make you feel congested. No need to thank me. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frack-i-think-i-might-be-an-addict/472391/7 "2008-11-12T19:36:08Z")
Try a neti pot. ---
**Author:** ![redtail23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/3e96dc/32.png) [@redtail23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/redtail23)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 7:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frack-i-think-i-might-be-an-addict/472391/8 "2008-11-12T19:41:38Z")
Oh man, that really sucks. I knew someone with an Afrin addiction when I was a teenager and have always been really careful. Good luck with kicking, it will only be completely miserable at first. 😉 Have you tried a neti pot? It’s addictive also, but what do ya do. I’ve hooked at least a half-dozen people since I got mine. ---
**Author:** ![Lightnin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lightnin/32/180_2.png) [@Lightnin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lightnin)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 7:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frack-i-think-i-might-be-an-addict/472391/9 "2008-11-12T19:43:11Z")
> [@Freudian\_Slip](#): > > Not giving medical advice, but my father tapered off NeoSynephrine by gradually (and increasingly) diluting each bottle with saline. He still had stuffiness, but not nearly as bad as quitting cold turkey. That’s what I did, as well. Once I realized I was addicted, I bought a new bottle and used half of it. I filled it back up with sterile saline, then used half of that mixture. Refill, use half, repeat as necessary. Worked like a charm, and I never suffered. ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 7:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frack-i-think-i-might-be-an-addict/472391/10 "2008-11-12T19:47:32Z")
> [@Inigo\_Montoya](#): > > Just suck it up and get your turbinates bored out. It’ll take a small family of mice living in your sinus to make you feel congested. > > No need to thank me. Heh. My mom actually had that done. Ew! > [@Cisco](#): > > Try a neti pot. Problem at the moment is \*nothing \*is passing, not even air. I will admit, I suggest neti pots to other people all the time, but I’ve have a lot of trouble doing it on myself. Images of waterboarding dance through my mind… After investigatin’, the Afrin bottle is one solid molded plastic piece so I can’t take the top off and pour saline in, but I bet if I squeeze it and hold it in a puddle of saline, it’ll suck it up well enough. Upon further investigatin’, this bottle of Afrin expired two months ago. Oops! ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 7:59pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frack-i-think-i-might-be-an-addict/472391/11 "2008-11-12T19:59:15Z")
GAH! O.o Um…let me just warn any other nasal spray tampering wannabes out there that the spray bottle was not designed to spray a nice mist when full. About half full seems best. I think I watered my brain… ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 8:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frack-i-think-i-might-be-an-addict/472391/12 "2008-11-12T20:00:32Z")
> [@WhyNot](#): > > Problem at the moment is \*nothing \*is passing, not even air. Ahh, been there, it sucks. You just have to take a really long, really hot and steamy shower, and use the neti pot towards the end of it. If you have the right mixture it will penetrate. > [@WhyNot](#): > > I admit, I suggest neti pots to other people all the time, but I’ve have a lot of trouble doing it on myself. Images of waterboarding dance through my mind… It’s all mental, you can do it! Just keep your head tilted way over to the side and don’t forget to breathe slowly and deeply through your mouth. ---
**Author:** ![Inigo\_Montoya](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/inigo_montoya/32/124_2.png) [@Inigo\_Montoya](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Inigo_Montoya)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 8:04pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frack-i-think-i-might-be-an-addict/472391/13 "2008-11-12T20:04:16Z")
> [@WhyNot](#): > > GAH! > > O.o > > Um…let me just warn any other nasal spray tampering wannabes out there that the spray bottle was not designed to spray a nice mist when full. About half full seems best. > > I think I watered my brain… I’ll be reporting shortly on the decongestant capabilities of very strong coffee… ETA: the nasal irrigation neti pots thing? Very worth learning how to do. Only takes a couple tries to get good at it. After that it’s disturbingly pleasant. Feels almost … immoral. ---
**Author:** ![TroubleAgain](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e480ec/32.png) [@TroubleAgain](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TroubleAgain)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 8:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frack-i-think-i-might-be-an-addict/472391/14 "2008-11-12T20:05:00Z")
I guess I’m lucky (or not?) that I cannot stand _anything_ liquid up my nostrils. My parents played hell when I was a kid with trying to give me any kind of nosedrops. ---
**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 8:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frack-i-think-i-might-be-an-addict/472391/15 "2008-11-12T20:08:55Z")
From the title, I was assuming this was about Battlestar Galactica… ---
**Author:** ![Tupug\_Anachi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7993a0/32.png) [@Tupug\_Anachi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tupug_Anachi)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 8:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frack-i-think-i-might-be-an-addict/472391/16 "2008-11-12T20:09:26Z")
Happened to me, too. I kicked it by switching to the sprays that aren’t as long acting and only doing it for the proscribed number of days. I was so glad to kick that habit! ---
**Author:** ![WhyNot](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/c77e96/32.png) [@WhyNot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/WhyNot)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frack-i-think-i-might-be-an-addict/472391/17 "2008-11-12T20:14:27Z")
> [@Ethilrist](#): > > From the title, I was assuming this was about Battlestar Galactica… Nah, just trying to keep “fuck” out of the thread titles for Our More Sensitive Viewers. (But would it kill them to make a new season, already?!) ---
**Author:** ![Balance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/ccd318/32.png) [@Balance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Balance)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frack-i-think-i-might-be-an-addict/472391/18 "2008-11-12T20:44:21Z")
> [@WhyNot](#): > > I will admit, I suggest neti pots to other people all the time, but I’ve have a lot of trouble doing it on myself. Images of waterboarding dance through my mind… I find that the key is having the water temperature and salinity exactly right. I fill the pot with hot water first (so it doesn’t chill the water I’m actually going to use), then fiddle with the faucet until it feels just slightly warm to my fingers. Then I dump the hot water and make my solution with the warm water (1/4 teaspoon to 1 cup of water). I’ve been trying to get my family off the nose spray and into using neti pots, but they all assume that it’s horrifically painful, despite my denials. (As if spraying cold drugs up your nose is so very pleasant…) ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 8:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frack-i-think-i-might-be-an-addict/472391/19 "2008-11-12T20:53:26Z")
> [@Balance](#): > > I’ve been trying to get my family off the nose spray and into using neti pots, but they all assume that it’s horrifically painful, despite my denials. (As if spraying cold drugs up your nose is so very pleasant…) The neti pot isn’t exactly relaxing, but I find sprays to be twice as uncomfortable and half as effective. ---
**Author:** ![Drain\_Bead](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/e47774/32.png) [@Drain\_Bead](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Drain_Bead)\ **Post date:** [November 12, 2008, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frack-i-think-i-might-be-an-addict/472391/20 "2008-11-12T21:02:26Z")
I was addicted to nasal sprays for about five or six years, from late teens to college. I can’t use them again, and I still have a horrid sense of smell because of them. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frack-i-think-i-might-be-an-addict/472391.md?page=2)