# fractals in nature

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**Category:** Factual Questions\
**Created:** [December 21, 2010, 5:48am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fractals-in-nature/564926 "2010-12-21T05:48:49Z")\
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**Author:** ![Napier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce73a5/32.png) [@Napier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Napier)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 1:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fractals-in-nature/564926/21 "2010-12-23T13:01:45Z")

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Ditto Kevbo and Francis Vaughan. I don’t think much about the universe is fractal in nature. There is a range over which the clumping of galaxies is somewhat scale symmetric, and likewise for the distribution of stars of varying brightness. A test of these is whether you could sketch a typical view and somebody else could deduce from the view what its scale is. Offhand I think galaxy distribution on the scale of 10^7 to 10^9 ly looks pretty similar, and star distribution on the scale of 10^2 to maybe 10^4 ly does also (if you except globular clusters). But that’s it, I think.

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**Author:** ![Shot\_From\_Guns](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/ccd318/32.png) [@Shot\_From\_Guns](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shot_From_Guns)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2010, 3:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fractals-in-nature/564926/22 "2010-12-23T15:39:02Z")

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I think we need a word for “thing that is like a fractal but only for a few factors of magnification rather than infinitely in both directions.”

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**Author:** ![ultrafilter](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/3d9bf3/32.png) [@ultrafilter](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ultrafilter)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2010, 4:45am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fractals-in-nature/564926/23 "2010-12-24T04:45:09Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> I think we need a word for “thing that is like a fractal but only for a few factors of magnification rather than infinitely in both directions.”

A fractal, to a first order approximation.

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**Author:** ![Napier](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/ce73a5/32.png) [@Napier](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Napier)\
**Post date:** [December 24, 2010, 3:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fractals-in-nature/564926/24 "2010-12-24T15:34:28Z")

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> [@Shot\_From\_Guns](#):
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> I think we need a word for “thing that is like a fractal but only for a few factors of magnification rather than infinitely in both directions.”

Or maybe a word for “thing that is fractal infinitely in both directions”. The things that are discussed as fractals are, I think, usually only scale symmetric over a limited range. Certainly the geometry of physical objects must be so, because space and matter have scale limitations. The famous Mandelbrot (sp?) set has a limit at large scale. I only know of conjectural objects like Serpinski (sp?) gaskets that could be infinitely scale symmetric.

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