In the case of Islam right here and now I’d suggest not. Ask those news agencies who refrained from publishing the Danish cartoons whether it was done through respect or fear
We don’t actually agree - of course the murders should stop, but I think CH should also be stopped.
This ought to be taken to heart by everyone on all sides of an issue.
It is also the reason for laws such as the castle doctrine, protesting in a right of way etc
So should Piss Christ be stopped?
“Satanist” death metal?
Dungeons and Dragons?
Then you’ve set an impossible bar and you’ve painted yourself into a corner.
Note that plenty of Islamic and other religious traditions run in direct opposition to and absolutely do violate the “people’s traditions” in numerous countries. And note also that the bullying from the religious side actually results in credible threats and actions against innocent people.
And those other figures don’t have a non-representation tradition (any more, some Christians used to be quite hardcore about it too).
He’s “iconic” without a traditional representation… I mean, the only people depicting him now are Islamophobes. That’s not the same as depictions of the Pope, an actual living human being depicted in all kinds of media - it’s a silly comparison.
Interesting that you think “don’t troll people” is an impossible bar. And I don’t see any corner…
And that’s fine. But “Be a dick to people” is not some secular mandate.
I’m not advocating for fucking Sharia here. I’m saying don’t be a dick to people that don’t deserve being a dick to (i.e. the millions of moderate Muslims).
Piss Christ is an example of violating other people’s culture to troll someone. Satanic death metal uses Christianity’s own language and motifs to troll it. Using names of demons and devils from the Bible in your D&D game is violating other people’s culture.
There are many Christians who were offended by all these things. My stance is 100% consistent: fuck 'em. You don’t like “real” demons in your D&D game? You’re welcome to find a new group. Don’t like death metal? Don’t listen to it. Don’t like Piss Christ? Just don’t think about it – it can’t hurt you.
Specifically going to a bakery you know is owned by devout catholics so that you can ask them to bake you a gay wedding cake? I 100% agree with this, and I still recognize it as quite obvious “trolling” of the religious right. They SHOULD be trolled – you don’t get to run a discriminatory business in the USA based on your barbaric religion.
But for some reason, drawings of Muhammed get special consideration? Fuck that.
So you are against Piss Christ and making Christian bakers bake gay wedding cakes for the same reasons?
I don’t think you’re quite clear on what I want stopped by stopping CH - it’s not their depiction of Muhammad. At least, not because it’s of Muhammad. You’ll notice I’ve said nothing about stopping Jyllands-Posten.
I’ve said publishing depictions of Muhammad is disrespectful, I didn’t say I want all of them stopped.
So call me when Piss Christ, Satanic metal and Dungeons and Dragons are full-on racist (well, D&D does have the Drow, but their representation there has improved quite a bit)
I’m sure then you’ll have to problem pointing me to Andres Serrano clearly admitting that the sole reason Piss Christ exists is to troll Christians?
I’m not a fan of Piss Christ, no. It’s childish.
But there’s no current trend of anti-Christianity in the place it was produced, so it’s a bit less concerning for me overall.
And making Christian bakers bake gay wedding cakes? Naah, sorry, homophobia trumps religious intolerance. If they are a public business, they can’t discriminate.
It’s definitely an oversimplification and I don’t mean it in a bad way. I know the artist was catholic. What I mean is that the art piece takes something central to Christians (the crucifix) and intentionally does something provocative and unusual with it (dunk it in piss) to illicit a reaction (make people think about the commercialization of christianity). I think you could call that “trolling” without saying it isn’t art.
It’s also the sort of thing I’d imagine a “valid” use of Muhammed in media might look like. A portrayal thats shocking, brings accusations of blasphemy… and which is still a valid work of art whose purpose is to make people think.
Skipped right over my whole “especially that of cultures you’ve historically oppressed” bit like it didn’t even exist, didn’t you 
So we are back to “only things I don’t like are racist and bad”. Cool, good to know. I thought people like you didn’t exist outside the fevered imagination of people like Octopus, but I guess I was wrong about that. Good to know.
When did we ever leave? Still haven’t answered that one.
What, people with a strong moral system?
I know those cartoons of Muhammad butt fucking a goat sure made me contemplate the truth of Islam…
Those of us whose moral system is a little more complex than “GOD SAYS X BAD, SO X BAD” tend to look for reasoning behind our moral systems, so I wouldn’t describe a moral system which you’ve boiled down to “WHAT MRDIBBLE LIKE, GOOD; WHAT MRDIBBLE DONT LIKE, BAD” could be described as a “strong” one.
That’s exactly what I was referring to 
The lack of representation is irrelevant. Salman Rushdie’s work was literal not pictorial and the uproar was just the same. We should not allow groups to dictate what is off-limits for criticism and criticism.
There is an Islamic tradition of not depicting Mohammed. Islamic. Those are self-imposed and have no bearing on people who are not followers of the Islamic faith.
There is equally a western tradition of a satirical press and this is also self-imposed and that calls for lampooning and ridiculing and criticising of anyone and everything that deserves it. Again, this should have no bearing on those who do not subscribe to that way of thinking. No-one can or should force such people to produce satirical periodicals or transgressive art etc.
I see no way of fully reconciling those traditions other than by allowing free choice of which tradition to follow and sucking up what comes your way.
If I’m offended by religious ideas and practices (which I am, deeply) that is my problem and it is for me to deal with it and consider how to react. Same applies to muslims and criticism of their religion and religious figures.