# France - The Legislative elections 2017 (june)

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**Category:** Politics & Elections\
**Created:** [May 29, 2017, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/france-the-legislative-elections-2017-june/787682 "2017-05-29T23:24:58Z")\
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**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\
**Post date:** [May 29, 2017, 11:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/france-the-legislative-elections-2017-june/787682/1 "2017-05-29T23:24:58Z")

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Lacking attention here, but as I am [enjoying very much Macron](http://www.businessinsider.com/macron-putin-news-conference-rt-sputnik-propaganda-fake-news-2017-5),[and the most recent polls are showing a good performance](http://www.lexpress.fr/actualite/politique/elections/sondage-macron-populaire-rem-en-route-vers-une-large-victoire-aux-legislatives_1911953.html), surprising.

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> Un président transpartisan  
> Un chiffre toutefois légèrement inférieur à celui enregistré par ses prédécesseurs à l’orée de leur mandats mais, et c’est notable, le chef de l’État recueille la majorité des suffrages chez les sympathisants de gauche (64%) comme de droite (52%). Ainsi, pour Gaël Sliman, président d’Odoxa, Emmanuel Macron réussit ce “que ses prédécesseurs n’ont quasiment jamais pu connaitre (…) le consensus gauche-droite”.  
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> A figure slightly lower than that recorded by his predecessors at the end of their mandates, however, it is notable the Head of State receives the majority of the votes of left-wing sympathizers (64%) and right-wing sympathizers (52%). Thus, for Gaël Sliman, president of Odoxa, Emmanuel Macron succeeds this “that his predecessors almost never knew (…) the left-right consensus”.

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> REM en pôle position pour les législatives  
> Au-delà de cette popularité, qui peut s’étioler au gré des événements, le sondage mesure également une forte envie, de la part des Français interrogés, d’accorder une majorité à La République en marche (REM) lors des élections législatives. Le parti présidentiel est crédité de 29% de souhaits de victoire, loin devant le FN (17%) et Les Républicains (15%) ou La France insoumise (14%).
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> REM in pole position for the legislative elections  
> Beyond this popularity, which can be tainted by the events, the poll also measures a strong desire on the part of the French respondents to grant a majority to the Republic in motion (REM) in the legislative elections. The presidential party is credited with 29% wishes of victory, far ahead of the FN (17%) and Les Républicains (15%) or La France insoumise (14%).

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**Author:** ![dalej42](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/67e7ee/32.png) [@dalej42](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/dalej42)\
**Post date:** [June 7, 2017, 5:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/france-the-legislative-elections-2017-june/787682/2 "2017-06-07T17:16:30Z")

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Looks like a solid victory for Macron’s party.

> **[France's Macron set for biggest majority since De Gaulle: poll](https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN18X171)**
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> Emmanuel Macron's party is set to win the biggest parliamentary majority for a French president since Charles de Gaulle's 1968 landslide, a survey of voter intentions for the coming legislative elections showed on Tuesday.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [June 11, 2017, 9:46pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/france-the-legislative-elections-2017-june/787682/3 "2017-06-11T21:46:13Z")

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Looks like it. Projection is for the biggest single-party majority since De Gaulle’s massive win in 1968.

> **[Macron's party set for huge French parliamentary majority](https://www.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN19200Y)**
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> President Emmanuel Macron's fledgling party is set to trounce France's traditional main parties in a parliamentary election and secure a huge majority to push through his pro-business reforms, projections after the first round showed on Sunday.

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**Author:** ![Tom\_Tildrum](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/e95f7d/32.png) [@Tom\_Tildrum](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tom_Tildrum)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 3:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/france-the-legislative-elections-2017-june/787682/4 "2017-06-12T15:08:17Z")

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Expectations will be high.

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**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 9:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/france-the-legislative-elections-2017-june/787682/5 "2017-06-12T21:02:34Z")

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[Macron tidal wave - press review](http://www.france24.com/en/20170612-press-review-french-legislative-elections-spectacular-grand-slam-emmanuel-macron).

So after the chaos of the rosbifs, the froggies have shown what a positive political renewal can begin to look like.

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**Author:** ![quimper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/q/7c8e57/32.png) [@quimper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/quimper)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 9:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/france-the-legislative-elections-2017-june/787682/6 "2017-06-12T21:21:30Z")

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This was the first round, correct? Curiously low turnout (~51% compared to 67% for the presidential vote) – is this a normal gap or will enthusiasm increase for the ‘real’ vote?

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**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\
**Post date:** [June 12, 2017, 9:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/france-the-legislative-elections-2017-june/787682/7 "2017-06-12T21:49:03Z")

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The turnout is down 8% from the Legislatives of 2012 if I remember this correctly. Normally the 2nd round loses a slight percentage. Comparison should be done to the prior Legislatives not to the Presidentials.

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**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2017, 6:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/france-the-legislative-elections-2017-june/787682/8 "2017-06-18T18:36:33Z")

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And the forecast result by IPSOS, [as publish by Le Monde](http://www.lemonde.fr/elections-legislatives-2017/live/2017/06/18/legislatives-2017-retrouvez-les-resultats-a-20-heures_5146603_5076653.html#Y8lDoqU1jIiRU0SY.99):

La République en marche-MoDem : 355 sièges (of which 311 for LRM) [Presidential];  
Les Républicains-UDI-divers droite : 125 sièges (of which101 for the LR) [Republicans, center right];  
Parti socialiste-Parti radical de gauche-divers gauche : 49 sièges (of which 34 for the PS) ;  
La France insoumise : 19 sièges ;  
Parti communiste : 11 sièges ;  
Front national : 8 sièges ;  
Divers : 10 sièges.

So the FN performed miserably, the new innovation center performed excellently, the tired old unreformed PS is massacred, the opposition core will come from the traditional center right.

Maybe the Americans should stop gazing at their own bellies for lessons and what to see if Macron and his new approach can show a revitalized center that is liberal in its politics and economics but addresses the problems of the current economy for those below the top 15% in income earning to avoid the future radicalism.

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**Author:** ![Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/f/a8b319/32.png) [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Fuzzy_wuzzy)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2017, 8:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/france-the-legislative-elections-2017-june/787682/9 "2017-06-18T20:44:14Z")

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> [@Ramira](#):
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> And the forecast result by IPSOS, [as publish by Le Monde](http://www.lemonde.fr/elections-legislatives-2017/live/2017/06/18/legislatives-2017-retrouvez-les-resultats-a-20-heures_5146603_5076653.html#Y8lDoqU1jIiRU0SY.99):
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> La République en marche-MoDem : 355 sièges (of which 311 for LRM) [Presidential];  
> Les Républicains-UDI-divers droite : 125 sièges (of which101 for the LR) [Republicans, center right];  
> Parti socialiste-Parti radical de gauche-divers gauche : 49 sièges (of which 34 for the PS) ;  
> La France insoumise : 19 sièges ;  
> Parti communiste : 11 sièges ;  
> Front national : 8 sièges ;  
> Divers : 10 sièges.
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> So the FN performed miserably, the new innovation center performed excellently, the tired old unreformed PS is massacred, the opposition core will come from the traditional center right.
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> Maybe the Americans should stop gazing at their own bellies for lessons and what to see if Macron and his new approach can show a revitalized center that is liberal in its politics and economics but addresses the problems of the current economy for those below the top 15% in income earning to avoid the future radicalism.

A note of caution. It’s probably best to wait and see how Macron gets on governing before taking lessons from him. During the last couple of election cycles in the UK we have had Clegg-mania, Sturgeon-mania, May-mania, Scottish Independence mania, the death of Scottish independence mania, death of two party politics mania, the resurgence of two party politics mania, rise of UKIP mania, death of UKIP mania, permanent Conservative majority mania, death of the Labour Party mania and now Corbyn mania. All within around 6 years. Im convinced virtually no-one has a bloody clue about where politics are going and what lessons need learned.

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**Author:** ![Ramira](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ramira/32/344_2.png) [@Ramira](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ramira)\
**Post date:** [June 18, 2017, 10:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/france-the-legislative-elections-2017-june/787682/10 "2017-06-18T22:57:55Z")

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> [@Fuzzy\_wuzzy](#):
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> A note of caution. It’s probably best to wait and see how Macron gets on governing before taking lessons from him. During the last couple of election cycles in the UK we have had Clegg-mania, Sturgeon-mania, May-mania, Scottish Independence mania, the death of Scottish independence mania, death of two party politics mania, the resurgence of two party politics mania, rise of UKIP mania, death of UKIP mania, permanent Conservative majority mania, death of the Labour Party mania and now Corbyn mania. All within around 6 years. Im convinced virtually no-one has a bloody clue about where politics are going and what lessons need learned.

my sentence: what to see if Macron and his new approach can show a revitalized center

It was meant “wait to see if”

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**Author:** ![alphaboi867](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/alphaboi867/32/3898_2.png) [@alphaboi867](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/alphaboi867)\
**Post date:** [June 19, 2017, 2:43am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/france-the-legislative-elections-2017-june/787682/11 "2017-06-19T02:43:56Z")

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Deutsche Welle is [reporting](http://www.dw.com/en/french-president-emmanuel-macrons-lrem-party-wins-majority-in-parliament/a-39299424) that Marine Le Pen won a seat, but the Front National won’t have enough seats to form a formal group in the National Assembly.

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**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\
**Post date:** [June 21, 2017, 3:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/france-the-legislative-elections-2017-june/787682/12 "2017-06-21T15:41:39Z")

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That was fast: [Emmanuel Macron’s defense minister resigns over scandal](http://www.cnn.com/2017/06/20/europe/sylvie-goulard-france-macron/?iid=ob_lockedrail_bottomlist).

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> Goulard’s resignation came as Paris prosecutors launched a preliminary investigation into claims by the French newspaper Canard Enchaine that her party was using European parliamentary funds to pay its staff based in France.
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> It also came one day after Macron removed Richard Ferrand from his Cabinet over allegations of financial impropriety.
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> Ferrand, a close ally of Macron’s who helped manage the now-President’s election campaign, has been caught up in allegations that he and his domestic partner benefited improperly from property deals done six years ago by a health insurance fund he managed in the Brittany region
