# Frances Cobain has married Tony Hawk's son Riley - but that's not the whole story **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [October 24, 2023, 9:22pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-cobain-has-married-tony-hawks-son-riley-but-thats-not-the-whole-story/992038 "2023-10-24T21:22:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 11\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Omar\_Little](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/omar_little/32/269_2.png) [@Omar\_Little](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Omar_Little)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 9:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-cobain-has-married-tony-hawks-son-riley-but-thats-not-the-whole-story/992038/21 "2023-10-25T21:24:44Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > I’m a reverend in the Universal Life Church. Hello brother! I’ve married 4 couples…but I’ve got one divorce. .750 isn’t too bad of a batting average. Did you get the rear view mirror - clergy hang-tag for visiting hospitals? ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 10:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-cobain-has-married-tony-hawks-son-riley-but-thats-not-the-whole-story/992038/22 "2023-10-25T22:44:33Z")
Not only that, but after Cobain died, Courtney wanted to assign Michael Stipe to be Frances’ legal guardian and raise her in the event of her own death, and Michael declined because he was afraid that she too would commit suicide. I had a pen pal at the time, through a music zine we both wrote for, and told her (and she agreed) that if he were to acquire a toddler that wasn’t his, he would be calling his parents all the time to ask, “So, what do I do?” She added that he would probably be a better male role model for Frances than Kurt ever would have been, and that he would likely be a better parent than Courtney, although that wouldn’t be a very high bar. I knew Frances had been briefly married before, but not that it ended that dramatically. Wow. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 10:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-cobain-has-married-tony-hawks-son-riley-but-thats-not-the-whole-story/992038/23 "2023-10-25T22:47:01Z")
That’s correct, and Peter’s future (now ex-) wife was 7 months pregnant with twins when Kurt offed himself. They were still able to keep all of this under wraps until R.E.M. released their album “Monster” a few months later. Good for them. ---
**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 11:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-cobain-has-married-tony-hawks-son-riley-but-thats-not-the-whole-story/992038/24 "2023-10-25T23:07:32Z")
> [@Hampshire](#): > > > [@nearwildheaven](#): > > > > Oh, c’mon, I just thought that with all the terrible things going on in the world, we could use a little distraction, if only for a minute. > > Taylor and Travis called. They want your attention back. Maybe for the rest of you. But here in western NY it’s all about Hailee and Josh. ---
**Author:** ![nearwildheaven](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/90db22/32.png) [@nearwildheaven](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/nearwildheaven)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-cobain-has-married-tony-hawks-son-riley-but-thats-not-the-whole-story/992038/25 "2023-10-25T23:13:17Z")
As for Drew Barrymore, mining the depths of my memory bank unearthed a National Enquirer story where Barrymore and another gender fluid actress whose name escapes me right now wanted to have a baby, and wanted JMS to father their child. That was the only time I ever heard about anything like that. ---
**Author:** ![Leaper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/4bbf92/32.png) [@Leaper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaper)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 11:25pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-cobain-has-married-tony-hawks-son-riley-but-thats-not-the-whole-story/992038/26 "2023-10-25T23:25:40Z")
> [@nearwildheaven](#): > > Barrymore and another gender fluid actress whose name escapes me right now wanted to have a baby, and wanted JMS to father their child …The writer of Babylon 5? Random joke: when the groom’s father showed at the wedding, none of the guests knew who he was. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 11:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-cobain-has-married-tony-hawks-son-riley-but-thats-not-the-whole-story/992038/27 "2023-10-25T23:38:38Z")
> [@Al128](#): > > one could argue the case that 12.5% of your clients died the year after you married them Heh. It was a marriage of convenience/necessity and the groom got worked up during rehearsal/discussion just prior to the ceremony and nearly expired. They were a seeet couple who’d been together since each of their spouses died. ---
**Author:** ![kayaker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kayaker/32/441_2.png) [@kayaker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kayaker)\ **Post date:** [October 25, 2023, 11:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-cobain-has-married-tony-hawks-son-riley-but-thats-not-the-whole-story/992038/28 "2023-10-25T23:40:38Z")
> [@Omar\_Little](#): > > Did you get the rear view mirror - clergy hang-tag for visiting hospitals? I proudly had one hanging until someone (I think I know who) nicked it. I also had a clergy press pass of some sort. The Universal Life Church was one of the first fun things I did when the internets was young. ---
**Author:** ![digs](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/digs/32/14889_2.png) [@digs](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/digs)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 3:35am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-cobain-has-married-tony-hawks-son-riley-but-thats-not-the-whole-story/992038/29 "2023-10-26T03:35:42Z")
> [@kayaker](#): > > I’m a reverend in the Universal Life Church. Long before Them Thar Interwebs (late 60s, I think), I mailed five bucks to the Universal Life Church for my ordination. I had to agree with their doctrine: > Do that which is right. ---
**Author:** ![hajario](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hajario/32/171_2.png) [@hajario](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/hajario)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 2:58pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-cobain-has-married-tony-hawks-son-riley-but-thats-not-the-whole-story/992038/30 "2023-10-26T14:58:14Z")
Two out of the three marriages that I officiated are still intact. ---
**Author:** ![Al128](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/al128/32/16541_2.png) [@Al128](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Al128)\ **Post date:** [October 26, 2023, 6:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-cobain-has-married-tony-hawks-son-riley-but-thats-not-the-whole-story/992038/31 "2023-10-26T18:20:23Z")
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