# Frances Cobain's "Suicide 16" Party **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Created:** [September 19, 2008, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-cobains-suicide-16-party/464265 "2008-09-19T03:46:18Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 3:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-cobains-suicide-16-party/464265/1 "2008-09-19T03:46:18Z")
Yes, it’s really been SIXTEEN years since she was born (damn!). And the theme of her “Sweet” Sixteen? [Suicide](http://www.celebitchy.com/14156/frances_bean_cobain_has_suicide-themed_birthday_party_with_graveyard_cake/) The invitation: > [@](#): > > Frances’ announcement of the party: > > Date: Tuesday, September 2, 2008 > Time: 9:30pm - 11:30pm > City/Town: Los Angeles, CA > > MY one and only sweet 16…..eerrrr actually it’s my “suicidal 16″. > At the house of blues, on September 2nd from 8:30 (TIME HAS CHANGED FORM 9:30 TO 8:30 KEEP THAT IN MIND) to 11:30 pm. > > MINDLESS SELF INDULGENCE IS PLAYING > i suggest all who intend on coming go to itunes of youtube and look them. If you don’t like them, then please don’t come. all will be forced to jump around and dance. ALL. > > YOU MUST BE WEARING BLACK OR RED OR YOU WILL NOT BE ALLOWED IN! this does not mean you have to wear something “nice” or “fancy” but there is a color code so do it! > > Your bags will be searched at the door > not my rules, but it is the house of blues’ rules > so don’t be stupid and try to bring shit it > do it b4 you get into the party if you have to > and try to be stealth! > > DON’T SEND ME (frances) YOUR ADDRESSES ANYMORE > SEND THEM TO GIANA!!! > > Pinkberry and The IN N’ Out truck will be catering. Of course there will be vegetarian food there to. > > WE ARE ALSO HAVING A CONTEST > its the “who can look most dead contest” > if you dress up dead and are picked as the top 3 you will receive a: IPOD TOUCH and a $200 gift certificate to amoeba. > so get that face paint on, and try to make it as realistic as you can. there will only be 3 WINNERS. > > i guess that’s it! > hope to see you guys there! > > xx franny (Pretty girl, though) ---
**Author:** ![Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/e36b37/32.png) [@Airman\_Doors\_USAF](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Airman_Doors_USAF)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 3:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-cobains-suicide-16-party/464265/2 "2008-09-19T03:51:26Z")
Wow, not even her father wrote words quite as incoherent or vacuous as those, and that’s saying something. It must be her mother’s influence. I have 3 years ago in the “Frances Bean tries smack with her mother” pool, by the way. ---
**Author:** ![bienville](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/4bbf92/32.png) [@bienville](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bienville)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 3:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-cobains-suicide-16-party/464265/3 "2008-09-19T03:52:56Z")
Ooh! I want a $200 gift certificate to Amoeba! I was just there tonight, I could have used it!!! ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 3:54am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-cobains-suicide-16-party/464265/4 "2008-09-19T03:54:37Z")
> [@Guinastasia](#): > > Yes, it’s really been SIXTEEN years since she was born (damn!). And the theme of her “Sweet” Sixteen? “Suicide” party? Really? I was in middle school. My friend and I were out in the driveway playing basketball. It was April 5th but it must’ve been unseasonably cold because I distinctly remember him wearing a thick Tarheels jacket. His mom called us in from several houses down to tell us the news. I liked Nirvana just like every other kid at the time but the guy I was with was a fanatic. He cried. I probably said something I felt would be mildly consoling. Then I let him be and walked home. Hard to believe that was over 14 years ago. Sad to think this girl never knew her dad at all. ---
**Author:** ![Guinastasia](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guinastasia/32/5751_2.png) [@Guinastasia](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Guinastasia)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 4:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-cobains-suicide-16-party/464265/5 "2008-09-19T04:03:30Z")
I turned sixteen the year Kurt died. How old do you think I feel. Hell, I remember my friend Tina calling me up on the phone two years before that and telling me when Frances was born-she was a HUGE Nirvana fan. Ouch. (That cake must taste like suck from all that food coloring) ---
**Author:** ![lavenderviolet](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/cdc98d/32.png) [@lavenderviolet](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lavenderviolet)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 4:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-cobains-suicide-16-party/464265/6 "2008-09-19T04:51:50Z")
I am not overly alarmed by her using “suicide” as a theme for her party. It’s just a 16 year old’s way of testing the boundaries of propriety. It’s maybe also a little bit about trying to take the sting out of those old demons by turning them into a goofy, joke-y kind of thing. The kid has a lot going against her, since both of her parents had such major mental issues of the sort that tend to run in families. But based on this, she seems pretty normal to me. Maybe even a little more sensible than the average kid her age since she tells her friends not to bring drugs TO the party. 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Hippy\_Hollow](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/hippy_hollow/32/4841_2.png) [@Hippy\_Hollow](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Hippy_Hollow)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-cobains-suicide-16-party/464265/7 "2008-09-19T05:31:23Z")
Wow, she’s cute. She inherited the best physical traits from both parents. Having said that, given who her parents are, and their mental problems, I’m amazed that we’ve heard so little of her. Looks like she’s doing the typical adolescent freak-out-the-squares type of thing. I imagine she has some fascination with suicide, seeing that her dad’s might have been the most famous of a generation. ---
**Author:** ![Sunshine\_and\_Smiles](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/a5b964/32.png) [@Sunshine\_and\_Smiles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sunshine_and_Smiles)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 5:32am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-cobains-suicide-16-party/464265/8 "2008-09-19T05:32:15Z")
I’d feel better about this if the girl’s grasp on the English language weren’t so tenuous. “Do it b4 you get into the party if you have to!” ~ seriously? The theme itself, especially in light of “Kurdt”, seems a bit odd (and maybe that’s a bit of understatement) but not enough for me to get up in arms. Typical scenester girl stuff, I guess. ---
**Author:** ![Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/bb73d2/32.png) [@Sleeps\_With\_Butterflies](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sleeps_With_Butterflies)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 5:37am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-cobains-suicide-16-party/464265/9 "2008-09-19T05:37:23Z")
Looks like she’s lost a bit of weight. She has her father’s eyes and (unfortunately) her mother’s old nose. From what I’ve read, she’s a good kid. I think that’s a miracle considering who her mother is. ---
**Author:** ![FriarTed](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/friarted/32/1052_2.png) [@FriarTed](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FriarTed)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 5:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-cobains-suicide-16-party/464265/10 "2008-09-19T05:39:08Z")
Her lips came from one of the (sorry to say the name) Sarah Palin campaign rallies. ---
**Author:** ![lissener](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lissener/32/6139_2.png) [@lissener](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/lissener)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 6:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-cobains-suicide-16-party/464265/11 "2008-09-19T06:23:25Z")
Interesting . . . when you enter “JTT” and “NPH” at [imdb.com](http://imdb.com), you get immediately forwarded to Jonathan Taylor Thomas’s and Neal Patrick Harris’s pages (respectively, of course). ---
**Author:** ![Junior\_Spaceman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Junior\_Spaceman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Junior_Spaceman)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 7:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-cobains-suicide-16-party/464265/12 "2008-09-19T07:58:50Z")
Yeah, about as good or bad taste as any sixteen year old girl’s birthday party. I wonder how many people remember April 5th vividly as the day they heard the news, though? They must have been pretty good psychics, seeing as the news only came through on the 8th. ---
**Author:** ![torie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/77aa72/32.png) [@torie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/torie)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 7:59am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-cobains-suicide-16-party/464265/13 "2008-09-19T07:59:51Z")
Damned if that little girl doesn’t look exactly like her father…She’s beautiful. I still cannot believe it’s been 14 years. We were living in Australia at the time, and my father read it as a news blurb in the paper the day after the body was found. No one cared. So I am somewhat disconnected from the sensation it was here. Four years later, my father was dead. I cannot believe that’s been ten years. Someone stop time before I really freak out. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 11:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-cobains-suicide-16-party/464265/14 "2008-09-19T11:53:03Z")
> [@lavenderviolet](#): > > I am not overly alarmed by her using “suicide” as a theme for her party. It’s just a 16 year old’s way of testing the boundaries of propriety. True. Besides, especially considering her parents, she could be doing so much worse than having a tacky birthday party and sending invitations with a some l33tspeak in them. > [@Junior Spaceman](#): > > I wonder how many people remember April 5th vividly as the day they heard the news, though? They must have been pretty good psychics, seeing as the news only came through on the 8th. The April 5th date has always been an estimate. Maybe the author was watching the “that’d be the butt, Bob” episode of The Newlywed Game when she got the bad news. ---
**Author:** ![Smid](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/838e76/32.png) [@Smid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Smid)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 12:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-cobains-suicide-16-party/464265/15 "2008-09-19T12:56:04Z")
I hope Big Fun will be there, performing their hit “Teen Suicide (Don’t do it)” ---
**Author:** ![Kalhoun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/3bc359/32.png) [@Kalhoun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kalhoun)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 1:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-cobains-suicide-16-party/464265/16 "2008-09-19T13:12:49Z")
I see a lot of her mother in her (I happen to think Courtney Love is beautiful). Wow…time flies. ---
**Author:** ![5-HT](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/5/f19dbf/32.png) [@5-HT](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/5-HT)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-cobains-suicide-16-party/464265/17 "2008-09-19T13:36:06Z")
> [@Junior\_Spaceman](#): > > Yeah, about as good or bad taste as any sixteen year old girl’s birthday party. Based on that sweet 16 show, this party is far more tasteful than most. ---
**Author:** ![Cisco](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ccd318/32.png) [@Cisco](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Cisco)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 3:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-cobains-suicide-16-party/464265/18 "2008-09-19T15:00:48Z")
> [@Junior\_Spaceman](#): > > I wonder how many people remember April 5th vividly as the day they heard the news, though? They must have been pretty good psychics, seeing as the news only came through on the 8th. Edit: My apologies (see below) ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 3:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-cobains-suicide-16-party/464265/19 "2008-09-19T15:02:34Z")
> [@Cisco](#): > > :rolleyes: I didn’t claim to remember the date. “Celebitchy” claims to remember it “vividly,” however. ---
**Author:** ![jk1245](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/49beb7/32.png) [@jk1245](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jk1245)\ **Post date:** [September 19, 2008, 3:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-cobains-suicide-16-party/464265/20 "2008-09-19T15:13:41Z")
> [@Cisco](#): > > Edit: My apologies (see below) Come on man, that edit was begging for an “All Apologies” I agree, a bit eyebrow raising, given her family history, but nothing to get too upset about. She did luck out and get the best of both parents, lookswise. Hope she didn’t get the worst of both emotionally. [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-cobains-suicide-16-party/464265.md?page=2)