# France's Hollande ET disclosure - the only way to avert nuclear and planetary cataclysm? **URL:** \ **Category:** Great Debates\ **Created:** [May 2, 2012, 8:53am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-hollande-et-disclosure-the-only-way-to-avert-nuclear-and-planetary-cataclysm/620617 "2012-05-02T08:53:10Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 4
**Author:** ![The\_Man\_With\_The\_Golden\_Gun](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/dc4da7/32.png) [@The\_Man\_With\_The\_Golden\_Gun](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Man_With_The_Golden_Gun)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 1:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-hollande-et-disclosure-the-only-way-to-avert-nuclear-and-planetary-cataclysm/620617/61 "2012-05-02T13:48:19Z")
Antichrist comes, takes over world, is defeated by Lady of Fatima. France surrenders. ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-hollande-et-disclosure-the-only-way-to-avert-nuclear-and-planetary-cataclysm/620617/62 "2012-05-02T13:57:42Z")
**greenlife** , I’ve merged your threads about the French elections and the Fatima vision because somehow they were about the same basic topic. Please don’t start any new threads about this subject while this one is active. ---
**Author:** ![Ludovic](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/l/7ab992/32.png) [@Ludovic](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ludovic)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 2:02pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-hollande-et-disclosure-the-only-way-to-avert-nuclear-and-planetary-cataclysm/620617/63 "2012-05-02T14:02:33Z")
> [@Czarcasm](#): > > **Greenlife** , if what you say is true then thank you for this advance warning. This gives us time to plan a proper attack against this vile monster who would murder billions out of spite. Do you have a way to identify his evil minions, the underhanded scum that would betray their own kind to this abomination just to get into his good graces? Personally, I’m part of the secret cabal to help them come to Earth. In return they promise to eat me first. ---
**Author:** ![DrFidelius](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/drfidelius/32/3447_2.png) [@DrFidelius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DrFidelius)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 5:32pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-hollande-et-disclosure-the-only-way-to-avert-nuclear-and-planetary-cataclysm/620617/64 "2012-05-02T17:32:12Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > **greenlife** , I’ve merged your threads about the French elections and the Fatima vision because somehow they were about the same basic topic. Please don’t start any new threads about this subject while this one is active. … and you had to put them both under the boring French politics title? ---
**Author:** ![Marley23](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/45deac/32.png) [@Marley23](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Marley23)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 5:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-hollande-et-disclosure-the-only-way-to-avert-nuclear-and-planetary-cataclysm/620617/65 "2012-05-02T17:36:17Z")
> [@DrFidelius](#): > > … and you had to put them both under the boring French politics title? That happened automatically because that thread was strated first, but reread that title again - it says the president of France disclosing the existence of aliens might be the only way to prevent nuclear war and planetary disaster. Is that really boring? That said, I’ll try to think of a way to combine the thread titles. ---
**Author:** ![conway](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/ec9cab/32.png) [@conway](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/conway)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 5:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-hollande-et-disclosure-the-only-way-to-avert-nuclear-and-planetary-cataclysm/620617/66 "2012-05-02T17:47:35Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > That happened automatically because that thread was strated first, but reread that title again - it says the president of France disclosing the existence of aliens might be the only way to prevent nuclear war and planetary disaster. Is that really boring? Meh. I would have preferred something about Satan worked in there. ---
**Author:** ![kaylasdad99](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kaylasdad99/32/3398_2.png) [@kaylasdad99](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/kaylasdad99)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 5:52pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-hollande-et-disclosure-the-only-way-to-avert-nuclear-and-planetary-cataclysm/620617/67 "2012-05-02T17:52:31Z")
> [@Broomstick](#): > > [Tomislav Vlasic](http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fr._Tomislav_Vlasic), a prime promoter (one might even say exploiter) of those hallucinating was defrocked by the Pope. Why? Promoting dubious doctrine, manipulation, and mysticism. I thought it was because the quality of his pickles deteriorated so far after Wal\*Mart negotiated the price down to an unsustainable level. ---
**Author:** ![Sailboat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sailboat/32/461_2.png) [@Sailboat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sailboat)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 6:33pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-hollande-et-disclosure-the-only-way-to-avert-nuclear-and-planetary-cataclysm/620617/68 "2012-05-02T18:33:56Z")
> [@greenlife](#): > > this is about those who ridicule everything and everyone, not for the people who take their time to respond, even if their views are quite different. I don’t want to come across as being negative, but none of these responders “ridicule everything and everyone.” They’re specifically ridiculing your ideas. ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-hollande-et-disclosure-the-only-way-to-avert-nuclear-and-planetary-cataclysm/620617/69 "2012-05-02T19:44:28Z")
What’s the big deal?! Can’t Our Lady handle the extraterrestrials?! ---
**Author:** ![Bryan\_Ekers](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/bryan_ekers/32/183_2.png) [@Bryan\_Ekers](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Bryan_Ekers)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 7:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-hollande-et-disclosure-the-only-way-to-avert-nuclear-and-planetary-cataclysm/620617/70 "2012-05-02T19:53:55Z")
> [@Marley23](#): > > That said, I’ll try to think of a way to combine the thread titles. Go the _Variety_ route: CLENCHED FRENCH PREZ SAYS E.T. KEY TO KNEE WORLD WAR THREE ---
**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 8:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-hollande-et-disclosure-the-only-way-to-avert-nuclear-and-planetary-cataclysm/620617/71 "2012-05-02T20:14:13Z")
> [@greenlife](#): > > Fatima says a year - before the end of 20th century. Read Neues Europa text that sounds astoundingly similar to Akita and others. We had 11+ years granted. It comes to an end. Why 2012? We may guess any year incl 2012, and why not 2012 if we are told so loudly. We may guess any year? OK, I prediict 1990. I think the world will end in 1990. But seriously, **greenlife** have you talked to anyone in the real world about this? How did they react? ---
**Author:** ![Lemur866](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/lemur866/32/434_2.png) [@Lemur866](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Lemur866)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 8:41pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-hollande-et-disclosure-the-only-way-to-avert-nuclear-and-planetary-cataclysm/620617/72 "2012-05-02T20:41:08Z")
> [@Mangetout](#): > > We may guess any year? OK, I prediict 1990. I think the world will end in 1990. Look, the world is going to end sometime, right? Guaranteed. But we don’t know when, nobody does except Jesus. Could the world end in 2012? Either it’s going to end in 2012, or it will end in some other year. That means the odds of the world ending in 2012 is 50-50. Better start saying your apologies to the man upstairs while you still can. ---
**Author:** ![clairobscur](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/839c29/32.png) [@clairobscur](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/clairobscur)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 8:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-hollande-et-disclosure-the-only-way-to-avert-nuclear-and-planetary-cataclysm/620617/73 "2012-05-02T20:55:29Z")
> [@Lemur866](#): > > Look, the world is going to end sometime, right? Guaranteed. But we don’t know when, nobody does except Jesus. . In fact, he stated that even himself didn’t know the day, and that it would take everybody by surprise. Fortunately for us, many modern Christians are much smarter than Jesus, and can predict the day and warn us in a timely fashion. ---
**Author:** ![Dissonance](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/85f322/32.png) [@Dissonance](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dissonance)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 10:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-hollande-et-disclosure-the-only-way-to-avert-nuclear-and-planetary-cataclysm/620617/74 "2012-05-02T22:51:53Z")
> [@Gyrate](#): > > Also: I want a flying pyramid. They sound cool. Oh, you laugh now, but who did the Evil Council turn out to be in Kung Pow: Enter the Fist? Yeah, that’s right. [Aliens from France in flying pyramids.](http://www.google.com/imgres?q=kung+pow+evil+council&hl=en&biw=1466&bih=776&tbm=isch&tbnid=5wgUN4DmBCt28M:&imgrefurl=http://dvd.ign.com/articles/363/363362p1.html&docid=jEcayf4SLNJFTM&imgurl=http://dvdmedia.ign.com/dvd/image/20020626014.jpg&w=460&h=259&ei=FLihT-ynF6js0gHkmIH2CA&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=1126&vpy=157&dur=763&hovh=168&hovw=299&tx=126&ty=73&sig=110870892733526776308&page=1&tbnh=99&tbnw=176&start=0&ndsp=28&ved=1t:429,r:6,s:0,i:79) ---
**Author:** ![BrainGlutton](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/82dd89/32.png) [@BrainGlutton](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BrainGlutton)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-hollande-et-disclosure-the-only-way-to-avert-nuclear-and-planetary-cataclysm/620617/75 "2012-05-02T23:17:06Z")
Y’know, the Dope ought to have a separate forum for . . . this sort of thread. I wonder what it should be called? ---
**Author:** ![JRDelirious](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/jrdelirious/32/9531_2.png) [@JRDelirious](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JRDelirious)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-hollande-et-disclosure-the-only-way-to-avert-nuclear-and-planetary-cataclysm/620617/76 "2012-05-02T23:19:06Z")
Why WOULD it be the President of France who reveals ET evidence? Who says it’s the President of France that _knows_? What’s if it’s the PM of New Zealand? What if it’s Ollanta Humala? And WTH do Marian apparitions have to do with ET or with 2012? Look, either it’s the aliens or it’s Jesus and his Mom. Maybe Jesus and his Mom _are_ aliens but then that would be a bloody disappointment for the truly faithful. Plus I have the feeling that a large part, if not a huge majority, of those who’d be into following up on ET technology to save the planet would be massively uninterested in what religion has to say about that, never mind in Marian devotion. At least Bob Dobbs promises us triple our money back if we fail to arrive at the promised land. BTW, if everything in the Fatima messages was to happen in the 20th Century, and we got an 11-year “break”… where did _that_ come from? Was never mentioned that I recall, has never been explained AFAIK. It seems some of the messages, it turns out, were all along about symbolic or spiritual conflicts, not actual events – and really, the RCC is notoriously NON-apocalyptic, as befits an institution dating all the way back to Roman times. And FWIW I just don’t see Mary as the sort to go around scaring the kids half to death with really horrible tales of doom. (Medugorje? Really? That has been so contaminated by other factors from the start… and I can’t help but notice it did nothing to prevent Yugoslavia from being the one part of Europe that descended into war and atrocity almost as soon as the communist yoke was off. Oh, and while Fatima and Akita are apparitions ratified by the Vatican - which is where it counts, the RCC is not a democracy - Medugorje has not been yet, and was even kept at an arm’s length by the hierarchy for a while until Vlasic was purged, and only then could the proper inquiry begin.) ---
**Author:** ![Captain\_Amazing](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/c/6de8d8/32.png) [@Captain\_Amazing](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Captain_Amazing)\ **Post date:** [May 2, 2012, 11:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-hollande-et-disclosure-the-only-way-to-avert-nuclear-and-planetary-cataclysm/620617/77 "2012-05-02T23:19:29Z")
> [@greenlife](#): > > Akita says “fire from heaven” not tsunami. Tsunami were horrible, Fukushima was too, the coming events will eclipse all that. It also said all this would happen “if men do not repent and better themselves”. Maybe people repented. ---
**Author:** ![Astroboy14](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/df705f/32.png) [@Astroboy14](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Astroboy14)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 12:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-hollande-et-disclosure-the-only-way-to-avert-nuclear-and-planetary-cataclysm/620617/78 "2012-05-03T00:21:38Z")
> [@Der\_Trihs](#): > > …and no mystic anything else. I saw a movie called **Mystic Pizza** once. Sheesh, do some basic research! 🙂 ---
**Author:** ![Scupper](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/b9bd4f/32.png) [@Scupper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Scupper)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 12:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-hollande-et-disclosure-the-only-way-to-avert-nuclear-and-planetary-cataclysm/620617/79 "2012-05-03T00:31:38Z")
I’m curious as to what force brings people with … uh … interesting opinions like this to the Straight Dope Message Board, of all places. ---
**Author:** ![tomndebb](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/b9e5f3/32.png) [@tomndebb](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/tomndebb)\ **Post date:** [May 3, 2012, 1:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-hollande-et-disclosure-the-only-way-to-avert-nuclear-and-planetary-cataclysm/620617/80 "2012-05-03T01:26:09Z")
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