# France's nuclear warning shot **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [February 25, 2025, 8:21pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-nuclear-warning-shot/1014790 "2025-02-25T20:21:27Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 13\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 6:04am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-nuclear-warning-shot/1014790/21 "2025-02-27T06:04:28Z")
Finally, an OPLAN I can get behind. Michaelangelo was _so_ overrated. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![FrenchDunadan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/frenchdunadan/32/5449_2.png) [@FrenchDunadan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FrenchDunadan)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 11:26am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-nuclear-warning-shot/1014790/22 "2025-02-27T11:26:05Z")
Eh No! we have the Villa Medicis there ! ---
**Author:** ![scudsucker](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/scudsucker/32/14101_2.png) [@scudsucker](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/scudsucker)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 11:49am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-nuclear-warning-shot/1014790/23 "2025-02-27T11:49:39Z")
> [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](#): > > Michaelangelo was _so_ overrated. I mean, sure, but an airburst would probably make the Sistene Chapel radioactive rather than destroy it. Tourism may suffer. ---
**Author:** ![OldOlds](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/o/a3d4f5/32.png) [@OldOlds](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/OldOlds)\ **Post date:** [February 27, 2025, 3:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-nuclear-warning-shot/1014790/24 "2025-02-27T15:17:30Z")
And if you watch the simulations in the movie Wargames closely, you’ll see that many of the scenarios are things like India and Pakistan getting into a nuclear exchange that then pulls everyone else in. That is, it wasn’t all US vs USSR as the instigation. I always thought that was a nice touch. Which, by the way, was before Pakistan got nuclear capabilty. ---
**Author:** ![Asuka](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/dec6dc/32.png) [@Asuka](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Asuka)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 7:36am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-nuclear-warning-shot/1014790/25 "2025-02-28T07:36:19Z")
I made a topic a few years ago about “Bad Nuclear War Scenarios in Fiction” that among other things had a nuclear WW3 start after Paris gets nuked by Eastern European terrorists, France responds back by nuking the fuck out of Belarus who had been harboring the terrorists. Russia sensing an opportunity moves it’s military into Belarus and claims the country is now Russian territory again. Then randomly says that since Belarus is now Russian territory and since France nuked it a week ago, that was considered a nuclear attack on Russian soil and decided to launch an all out nuclear attack on France in response which then prompts a NATO counter-launch with ends the world. Just saying that might be possible. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-nuclear-warning-shot/1014790/26 "2025-02-28T15:45:30Z")
> [@Asuka](#): > > Just saying that might be possible. I’ve given up arguing against the impossible ever since a buffoonish fame show host with a long history of stupid business ventures which utterly failed and who previously tried to overthrow an election convinced almost half of the people who bothered to vote to give him a second shot. The Science and Security Board of the Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists has upped their “Doomsday Clock” to 89 seconds: > **[Doomsday Clock - Bulletin of the Atomic Scientists](https://thebulletin.org/doomsday-clock/)** > > It is 89 seconds to midnight. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 7:14pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-nuclear-warning-shot/1014790/27 "2025-02-28T19:14:15Z")
France has SLBMs, you know. ---
**Author:** ![Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/13edae/32.png) [@Stranger\_On\_A\_Train](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Stranger_On_A_Train)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 7:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-nuclear-warning-shot/1014790/28 "2025-02-28T19:34:03Z")
> **[M51 | Missile Threat](https://missilethreat.csis.org/missile/m51/)** > > The M51 is a French long-range, solid-fueled, MIRV-capable, submarine-launched ballistic missile. It is a core component of France’s nuclear deterrent force. M51 Development Originally, France had planned to replace the M45 with the M5, but in 1996... Basically equivalent to the US FBM D-5 ‘Trident II’ SLBM with lower yield warheads (~150 kTTNTeq) than the modern 475 kTTNTeq W-88. Stranger ---
**Author:** ![gnoitall](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/bb73d2/32.png) [@gnoitall](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gnoitall)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 9:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-nuclear-warning-shot/1014790/29 "2025-02-28T21:16:12Z")
I’m sure they’re not going to nuke their own inbound strike, though. Mission coordination is easier within a single country’s armed forces. It’s when multiple uncoordinated parties attack the same targets you can get fratricide. ---
**Author:** ![Dallas\_Jones](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dallas_jones/32/3277_2.png) [@Dallas\_Jones](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dallas_Jones)\ **Post date:** [February 28, 2025, 9:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-nuclear-warning-shot/1014790/30 "2025-02-28T21:56:59Z")
France wll send up an exploratory firework saying they surrender. That is about as aggressive as they will ever get. NATO is largely a fiction where the US steps in and takes care of everything. I would be interested to see what the plan is if the US does not take care of everything. How much money are the individual NATO countries investing in their own defense? Just waiting for the US? What is the plan if they don’t come, then what? Russia is also very weak and hasn’t been able to take over a rebelious state, a bit smalller than Texas, called Ukrane, with Trillions of defense dollars from the US. The next Russian collapse is on the horizon. And they cannot afford this Ukrane war or any new conflict. France, Russia, and the US all exist in the same world economy. The war will end. None of the people involved will like it. Thats the rules. ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2025, 2:09am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-nuclear-warning-shot/1014790/31 "2025-03-03T02:09:13Z")
Since the USA can be vetoed, the USA does not take care of everything. Are you a Russian plant? ---
**Author:** ![Wesley\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/wesley_clark/32/20581_2.png) [@Wesley\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Wesley_Clark)\ **Post date:** [March 3, 2025, 2:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-nuclear-warning-shot/1014790/32 "2025-03-03T02:56:44Z")
> [@Horatius](#): > > > [@Mangetout](#): > > > > nuke something else? > > Nuke the Moon! Nothing lesser would demonstrate both our power and insanity! [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/GTJ3LIA5LmA/maxresdefault.jpg "Mr. Show - Blow Up the Moon") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GTJ3LIA5LmA) ---
**Author:** ![RickJay](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/r/bb73d2/32.png) [@RickJay](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/RickJay)\ **Post date:** [March 7, 2025, 3:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-nuclear-warning-shot/1014790/33 "2025-03-07T03:23:52Z")
> [@Dallas\_Jones](#): > > NATO is largely a fiction where the US steps in and takes care of everything. Have you been paying attention to ANYTHING in world events in the last twenty years? [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frances-nuclear-warning-shot/1014790.md?page=1)