# Franciscan order in "grave" financial difficulties

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franciscan-order-in-grave-financial-difficulties/707704>\
**Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\
**Created:** [December 19, 2014, 11:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franciscan-order-in-grave-financial-difficulties/707704 "2014-12-19T23:08:41Z")\
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**Author:** ![Nava](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/da6949/32.png) [@Nava](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nava)\
**Post date:** [December 23, 2014, 6:52am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franciscan-order-in-grave-financial-difficulties/707704/21 "2014-12-23T06:52:58Z")

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> [@jayjay](#):
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> INDIVIDUAL poverty. None of the holy orders vows to institutional poverty, otherwise they’d have no way of maintaining life for their population of personally indigent members. Or, as Sister Mary Annette from Nunsense says, “We can HAVE anything. We just can’t OWN it!”

Also, as **jayjay** implies but doesn’t spell out, ALL members of monastic orders take vows of poverty.

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