# Frank, enough with you Pilgrim ethics!!

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frank-enough-with-you-pilgrim-ethics/370892>\
**Category:** The BBQ Pit\
**Created:** [August 31, 2006, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frank-enough-with-you-pilgrim-ethics/370892 "2006-08-31T07:56:16Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![Grrr](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/grrr/32/146_2.png) [@Grrr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Grrr)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2006, 7:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frank-enough-with-you-pilgrim-ethics/370892/1 "2006-08-31T07:56:16Z")

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You closed [this](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=386235) thread?  
Dude so fucking what if the whole front page is covered with sex questions? As long as they all aren’t asking the same question; who cares?  
And furthermore…  
Eh, thats all I got.  
I’m going to stop now because I promised myself I’d never pit a mod. They do a fine job around here it’s just that this one got under my skin.

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**Author:** ![Sage\_Rat](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/sage_rat/32/399_2.png) [@Sage\_Rat](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sage_Rat)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2006, 8:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frank-enough-with-you-pilgrim-ethics/370892/2 "2006-08-31T08:34:59Z")

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**Author:** ![Dervorin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Dervorin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dervorin)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2006, 9:38am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frank-enough-with-you-pilgrim-ethics/370892/3 "2006-08-31T09:38:03Z")

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What are those squirrels doing in there, spoiling all that wonderful sex? :dubious:

I have to say, though, that I was surprised at that closure. Maybe we aren’t Penthouse, but to arbitrarily close a thread simply because there happen to be too many threads on the topic seems a little, well, arbitrary. People want to share sex stories, let 'em, say I.

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**Author:** ![The\_Weird\_One](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/7bcc69/32.png) [@The\_Weird\_One](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/The_Weird_One)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2006, 11:21am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frank-enough-with-you-pilgrim-ethics/370892/4 "2006-08-31T11:21:40Z")

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[QUOTE=Dervorin]  
What are those squirrels doing in there, spoiling all that wonderful sex? :dubious:  
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Eh, they’re just there for the nuts. 😃

I was mildly annoyed by the sex-purge, too.

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**Author:** ![AncientHumanoid](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ancienthumanoid/32/278_2.png) [@AncientHumanoid](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/AncientHumanoid)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2006, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frank-enough-with-you-pilgrim-ethics/370892/5 "2006-08-31T11:25:39Z")

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Everybody wants to fill the Dope with silly sex threads

And what’s wrong with that?

I’d like to know

Cause here I go

Again

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**Author:** ![Epimetheus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/c4cdca/32.png) [@Epimetheus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Epimetheus)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2006, 11:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frank-enough-with-you-pilgrim-ethics/370892/6 "2006-08-31T11:25:46Z")

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What a prude.

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**Author:** ![Dervorin](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/eb8c5e/32.png) [@Dervorin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dervorin)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2006, 11:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frank-enough-with-you-pilgrim-ethics/370892/7 "2006-08-31T11:27:13Z")

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[QUOTE=The Weird One]  
Eh, they’re just there for the nuts. 😃

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_snerk_

Ah, hap-penis is a bad pun. 😉

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**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2006, 11:44am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frank-enough-with-you-pilgrim-ethics/370892/8 "2006-08-31T11:44:49Z")

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Speaking of forplay…

What’s wrong with a kiss, boy? Hmm? Why not start her off with a nice kiss? … You don’t have to go leaping straight for the clitoris like a bull at a gate. Give her a kiss, boy.

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**Author:** ![Baldwin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/baldwin/32/7264_2.png) [@Baldwin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Baldwin)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2006, 11:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frank-enough-with-you-pilgrim-ethics/370892/9 "2006-08-31T11:51:13Z")

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That’s not a pun, it’s a play on words. The latter may be truly clever; the former virtually never.

It seems to me the thread in question was entirely in keeping with the idea of fighting ignorance; an honest question was asked about the human experience, and folks were offering their own experience and insight. Unless somebody started inserting hotlinks to Swedish “Aunt Peggy” videos from the 1970s, I don’t see a problem.

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**Author:** ![Turek](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/turek/32/18782_2.png) [@Turek](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Turek)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2006, 1:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frank-enough-with-you-pilgrim-ethics/370892/10 "2006-08-31T13:07:22Z")

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I agree. Either make a rule about no sex threads or leave the damn things alone. Closing one just because there are too many of them (in your eyes) is arbitrary.

And don’t make a rule about no sex threads.

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**Author:** ![Mangetout](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mangetout/32/19_2.png) [@Mangetout](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mangetout)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2006, 1:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frank-enough-with-you-pilgrim-ethics/370892/11 "2006-08-31T13:27:31Z")

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Wait. so the clitoris looks like a bull? Or a gate? No wonder I can’t find the fucking thing.

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**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2006, 1:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frank-enough-with-you-pilgrim-ethics/370892/12 "2006-08-31T13:31:01Z")

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Yeah, especially when the front page of the Dope website currently mentions the baad word SEX in two different places. OMG, think of the chiillddrreennnnnn…

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**Author:** ![Ethilrist](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/ethilrist/32/4604_2.png) [@Ethilrist](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ethilrist)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2006, 1:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frank-enough-with-you-pilgrim-ethics/370892/13 "2006-08-31T13:37:25Z")

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He also closed [this one](http://boards.straightdope.com/sdmb/showthread.php?t=385719), saying that the thread had run its course, twelve minutes after somebody else had posted in it…

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**Author:** ![gfloyd](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/g/d2c977/32.png) [@gfloyd](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/gfloyd)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2006, 1:43pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frank-enough-with-you-pilgrim-ethics/370892/14 "2006-08-31T13:43:02Z")

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I was irked by this as well. It does seem a little arbitrary. I don’t think any of the threads violated the rules, did they?

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**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2006, 1:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frank-enough-with-you-pilgrim-ethics/370892/15 "2006-08-31T13:45:22Z")

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Also in the front page, A Cecil Classic: Did Renaldus Columbus discover the clitoris in 1559?

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**Author:** ![BMalion](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/e274bd/32.png) [@BMalion](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/BMalion)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2006, 1:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frank-enough-with-you-pilgrim-ethics/370892/16 "2006-08-31T13:47:26Z")

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maybe **Frank** just needs to get laid. 😃

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**Author:** ![Klaatu](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/k/e0b2c6/32.png) [@Klaatu](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Klaatu)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2006, 1:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frank-enough-with-you-pilgrim-ethics/370892/17 "2006-08-31T13:55:12Z")

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He should have sailed with Columbus in 1559 then…

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**Author:** ![Evil\_Captor](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/f17d59/32.png) [@Evil\_Captor](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Evil_Captor)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2006, 2:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frank-enough-with-you-pilgrim-ethics/370892/18 "2006-08-31T14:18:25Z")

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One of the things about power is the need to use it wisely. Most of the time, wisely=sparingly.

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**Author:** ![DianaG](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/7ab992/32.png) [@DianaG](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/DianaG)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2006, 2:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frank-enough-with-you-pilgrim-ethics/370892/19 "2006-08-31T14:23:44Z")

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Eh. Closing that thread is certainly arbitrary, but I can’t seem to get too worked up that now we only have six threads (on the first page) to discuss sex in.

For the record: Foreplay? HELLS YEAH!!! 😃

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**Author:** ![mhendo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/mhendo/32/3159_2.png) [@mhendo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/mhendo)\
**Post date:** [August 31, 2006, 2:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frank-enough-with-you-pilgrim-ethics/370892/20 "2006-08-31T14:26:31Z")

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After i read the OP, i clicked on the link, thinking “Surely there’s no way he closed it _just_ because there were too many other sex threads. There must be some other reason.”

But no, that’s exactly what happened.

Very poor judgment.

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