# Franklin Graham: The Muslim Brotherhood, with Obama's complicity, has infiltrated U.S. gov't

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**Created:** [March 23, 2011, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklin-graham-the-muslim-brotherhood-with-obamas-complicity-has-infiltrated-u-s-govt/575737 "2011-03-23T17:12:27Z")\
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**Author:** ![Revtim](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/revtim/32/1042_2.png) [@Revtim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Revtim)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2011, 5:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklin-graham-the-muslim-brotherhood-with-obamas-complicity-has-infiltrated-u-s-govt/575737/1 "2011-03-23T17:12:27Z")

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> **[Franklin Graham: World’s Christians in Grave Danger](https://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/franklin-graham-christians-muslims/2011/03/18/id/389992/)**
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> The Muslim Brotherhood, with the complicity of the Obama administration, has infiltrated the U.S. government at the highest levels and is influencing American policy that leaves the world s Christians in grave danger, warns internationally known...

Geeze, you’d think the International Jewish Conspiracy would be a good hedge against this happening.

Oh my god, are the two groups conspiring together?

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**Author:** ![elucidator](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/8edcca/32.png) [@elucidator](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/elucidator)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2011, 5:34pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklin-graham-the-muslim-brotherhood-with-obamas-complicity-has-infiltrated-u-s-govt/575737/2 "2011-03-23T17:34:07Z")

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Franklin Graham had a wild youth, and did the prodigal son _shtick._ Now, he’s a hysterical idiot. Lesson: if you start down the path of sex, drugs, and rock 'n roll, stick with it.

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**Post date:** [March 23, 2011, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklin-graham-the-muslim-brotherhood-with-obamas-complicity-has-infiltrated-u-s-govt/575737/3 "2011-03-23T18:09:10Z")

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Never get off of the boat, dammit!

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**Author:** ![Little\_Nemo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/little_nemo/32/3120_2.png) [@Little\_Nemo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Little_Nemo)\
**Post date:** [March 23, 2011, 6:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklin-graham-the-muslim-brotherhood-with-obamas-complicity-has-infiltrated-u-s-govt/575737/4 "2011-03-23T18:10:23Z")

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> [@Revtim](#):
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> Geeze, you’d think the International Jewish Conspiracy would be a good hedge against this happening.
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> Oh my god, are the two groups conspiring together?

You obviously don’t understand how it works. There are only two religions: Christian and Others. Those Others will try to claim there are differences between being a Muslim or a Jew or a Satanist or an Atheist or a Mormon or a Scientist - but they’re just trying to confuse you. So keep it simple: there’s Us and there’s Them.

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**Author:** ![EvilTOJ](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/ee59a6/32.png) [@EvilTOJ](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/EvilTOJ)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 11:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklin-graham-the-muslim-brotherhood-with-obamas-complicity-has-infiltrated-u-s-govt/575737/5 "2011-03-24T11:31:58Z")

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This Muslim Brotherhood sounds sinister… until I started reading about them. It sounds like any other run-of-the-mill bible thumping organization. Osama bin Laden broke away from the Muslim Brotherhood because they weren’t violent enough. That news article is just chock full of the crazy though.

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**Author:** ![Shodan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/9f8e36/32.png) [@Shodan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Shodan)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 1:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklin-graham-the-muslim-brotherhood-with-obamas-complicity-has-infiltrated-u-s-govt/575737/6 "2011-03-24T13:18:24Z")

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Newsmax is a reputable cite now?

Regards,  
Shodan

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**Author:** ![newcomer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e5b9ba/32.png) [@newcomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/newcomer)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 1:28pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklin-graham-the-muslim-brotherhood-with-obamas-complicity-has-infiltrated-u-s-govt/575737/7 "2011-03-24T13:28:11Z")

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Franklin Graham is a reputable purveyor of political wisdom?

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**Author:** ![Giles](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/giles/32/60_2.png) [@Giles](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Giles)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 1:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklin-graham-the-muslim-brotherhood-with-obamas-complicity-has-infiltrated-u-s-govt/575737/8 "2011-03-24T13:36:28Z")

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> [@Little\_Nemo](#):
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> You obviously don’t understand how it works. There are only two religions: Christian and Others. Those Others will try to claim there are differences between being a Muslim or a Jew or a Satanist or an Atheist or a Mormon or a Scientist - but they’re just trying to confuse you. So keep it simple: there’s Us and there’s Them.

You could have added “Roman Catholic” to the list of non-Christian religions. (I’m old enough to remember worries that President Kennedy would take his orders from the Pope.)

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**Author:** ![Steve\_MB](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/steve_mb/32/5339_2.png) [@Steve\_MB](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Steve_MB)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 1:40pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklin-graham-the-muslim-brotherhood-with-obamas-complicity-has-infiltrated-u-s-govt/575737/9 "2011-03-24T13:40:53Z")

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> [@EvilTOJ](#):
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> This Muslim Brotherhood sounds sinister… until I started reading about them. It sounds like any other run-of-the-mill bible thumping organization.

One of the roots of fundie fear of Moose Limbs is concern that the war against Islamic terrorism and extremism will do to them what the war against the Nazis did to genteel anti-Semitism (i.e. banish it from polite society as being too uncomfortably similar to obvious evil).

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 1:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklin-graham-the-muslim-brotherhood-with-obamas-complicity-has-infiltrated-u-s-govt/575737/10 "2011-03-24T13:57:04Z")

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I’m confused. He’s fearing for the millions of Christians in Egypt, but don’t the Fundamentalists like him consider the main churches there not Christian?

I’m also confused on another issue. Why is anyone listening to that jackass?

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**Author:** ![Monty](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/monty/32/47_2.png) [@Monty](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Monty)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 2:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklin-graham-the-muslim-brotherhood-with-obamas-complicity-has-infiltrated-u-s-govt/575737/11 "2011-03-24T14:00:05Z")

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> [@Giles](#):
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> You could have added “Roman Catholic” to the list of non-Christian religions. (I’m old enough to remember worries that President Kennedy would take his orders from the Pope.)

Heck, recently, very recently, there was a lot of hoopla (read: stupidity) to the effect that Romney would be “taking orders” from Salt Lake City if he were to become President of the US.

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**Author:** ![Skammer](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/skammer/32/143_2.png) [@Skammer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Skammer)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 2:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklin-graham-the-muslim-brotherhood-with-obamas-complicity-has-infiltrated-u-s-govt/575737/12 "2011-03-24T14:38:59Z")

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Oh, dear. Billy would be turning over in his grave. Except I don’t think he’s dead yet, is he?

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**Author:** ![Buck\_Godot](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/buck_godot/32/6573_2.png) [@Buck\_Godot](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Buck_Godot)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 2:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklin-graham-the-muslim-brotherhood-with-obamas-complicity-has-infiltrated-u-s-govt/575737/13 "2011-03-24T14:53:05Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Newsmax is a reputable cite now?
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

For quoting a right wing nutball? Sure

For actually presenting accurate news analysis? No way

I’m sure that if [MoveOn.org](http://MoveOn.org) had a quote from Michael Moore saying that the Republicans were secretly being controlled by the KKK. You would believe that Michael Moore actually said it, even if you wouldn’t normally think of [MoveOn.org](http://MoveOn.org) as a reliable source for unbiased news.

Why would news max purposely fabricate a quote frome someone on their own side?

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**Author:** ![Ibn\_Warraq](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/e19b73/32.png) [@Ibn\_Warraq](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Ibn_Warraq)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 3:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklin-graham-the-muslim-brotherhood-with-obamas-complicity-has-infiltrated-u-s-govt/575737/14 "2011-03-24T15:49:54Z")

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> [@EvilTOJ](#):
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> This Muslim Brotherhood sounds sinister… until I started reading about them. It sounds like any other run-of-the-mill bible thumping organization.

Then I would respectfully say that you didn’t read up on them that well. Sayyid Qutb and Hassan Al Banna were hardly simply Islamic versions of Billy Graham.

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**Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 3:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklin-graham-the-muslim-brotherhood-with-obamas-complicity-has-infiltrated-u-s-govt/575737/15 "2011-03-24T15:55:39Z")

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> [@Skammer](#):
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> Oh, dear. Billy would be turning over in his grave. Except I don’t think he’s dead yet, is he?

No, but he does sleep in a coffin.

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**Author:** ![newcomer](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/e5b9ba/32.png) [@newcomer](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/newcomer)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 4:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklin-graham-the-muslim-brotherhood-with-obamas-complicity-has-infiltrated-u-s-govt/575737/16 "2011-03-24T16:09:51Z")

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> [@Ibn\_Warraq](#):
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> Then I would respectfully say that you didn’t read up on them that well. Sayyid Qutb and Hassan Al Banna were hardly simply Islamic versions of Billy Graham.

Please, do enlighten… they were \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ ?

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 4:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklin-graham-the-muslim-brotherhood-with-obamas-complicity-has-infiltrated-u-s-govt/575737/17 "2011-03-24T16:16:06Z")

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He also said that the earthquake/tsunami could be a [calling card of The End Times](http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/franklin-graham-japan-tsunami/2011/03/18/id/389996)™®. Or maybe not.

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> “Maybe this is it, I don’t know. We should pray and be vigilant. The Bible teaches us Jesus is going to return someday. Many of us we believe that day is sooner rather than later.”

By this logic of course the final episode of Hannah Montana might or might not be a sign of the End Times as well.

I wonder if he’s still putting money in his retirement account.

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**Author:** ![Sampiro](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/2acd7d/32.png) [@Sampiro](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Sampiro)\
**Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 4:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklin-graham-the-muslim-brotherhood-with-obamas-complicity-has-infiltrated-u-s-govt/575737/18 "2011-03-24T16:18:50Z")

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> [@newcomer](#):
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> Please, do enlighten… they were \_\_\_\_\_\_\_\_ ?

Advocates of violent revolution and fierce retribution for non compliers with Islam, which give him his due, Graham has never done.

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**Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 4:20pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklin-graham-the-muslim-brotherhood-with-obamas-complicity-has-infiltrated-u-s-govt/575737/19 "2011-03-24T16:20:11Z")

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> [@Shodan](#):
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> Newsmax is a reputable cite now?
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> Regards,  
> Shodan

Hmmm. You _might_ have a point (I’d be grateful if you’d elaborate on just what you intended it to be, though).

In the meantime, **revtim** what are you doing nosing around on Newsmax? Slumming?

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**Post date:** [March 24, 2011, 4:42pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklin-graham-the-muslim-brotherhood-with-obamas-complicity-has-infiltrated-u-s-govt/575737/20 "2011-03-24T16:42:42Z")

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> [@Sampiro](#):
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> Advocates of violent revolution and fierce retribution for non compliers with Islam

Khm… cite?

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