# Franklin's Lost Expedition - Found **URL:** \ **Category:** Miscellaneous and Personal Stuff I Must Share\ **Created:** [September 9, 2014, 5:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklins-lost-expedition-found/697980 "2014-09-09T17:39:56Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [October 3, 2014, 3:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklins-lost-expedition-found/697980/41 "2014-10-03T15:06:09Z")
Ah - the CBC article says it was a combination “a meticulous review of data and artifacts” from the seabed, high-resolution photos and video, along with sonar measurements. And the CBC article mentions they had several dives to the wreck, before the winter closed in. ---
**Author:** ![Northern\_Piper](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/northern_piper/32/5304_2.png) [@Northern\_Piper](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Northern_Piper)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2015, 1:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklins-lost-expedition-found/697980/42 "2015-03-05T13:13:18Z")
Prime Minister announces that there will be further dives, starting next month: [Franklin expedition’s HMS Erebus to be examined by dive teams in April](http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/franklin-expedition-s-hms-erebus-to-be-examined-by-dive-teams-in-april-1.2982283) I don’t envy them diving in the Arctic in April; there will still be ice on the water. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 5, 2015, 6:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklins-lost-expedition-found/697980/43 "2015-03-05T18:09:08Z")
Thanks for the update. Hope they’re dressed _very_ warmly. ---
**Author:** ![Boyo\_Jim](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/87869e/32.png) [@Boyo\_Jim](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Boyo_Jim)\ **Post date:** [March 6, 2015, 4:39am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklins-lost-expedition-found/697980/44 "2015-03-06T04:39:17Z")
They’re Canadians. They oughta be able to do the dives naked, except it wouldn’t be polite. ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklins-lost-expedition-found/697980/45 "2016-09-13T01:51:07Z")
Updating this thread: > [@](#): > > The second of two British explorer ships that vanished in the Arctic nearly 170 years ago during a storied expedition to find the fabled Northwest Passage has been found. > > The Arctic Research Foundation said Monday that the HMS Terror has been located by a research ship. Last seen in the 1840s while under the command of Sir John Franklin, HMS Erebus and HMS Terror have long been among the most sought-after prizes in marine archaeology and the subject of songs, poems and novels. The wreck of the Erebus was found in 2014. [https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the\_americas/searchers-find-2nd-ship-from-doomed-british-expedition/2016/09/12/f419a320-794f-11e6-8064-c1ddc8a724bb\_story.html](https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/the_americas/searchers-find-2nd-ship-from-doomed-british-expedition/2016/09/12/f419a320-794f-11e6-8064-c1ddc8a724bb_story.html) ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 2:15am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklins-lost-expedition-found/697980/46 "2016-09-13T02:15:01Z")
I can’t wait to see pictures. ---
**Author:** ![Latimera](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/latimera/32/497_2.png) [@Latimera](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Latimera)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 2:25am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklins-lost-expedition-found/697980/47 "2016-09-13T02:25:12Z")
> [@Leaffan](#): > > I can’t wait to see pictures. Funny, that was the first thing I thought… ---
**Author:** ![PastTense](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/pasttense/32/14550_2.png) [@PastTense](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/PastTense)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 3:00am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklins-lost-expedition-found/697980/48 "2016-09-13T03:00:33Z")
Some video: [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/-_hug6UIyyE/hqdefault.jpg "Underwater footage shows 'perfectly preserved' HMS Terror") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_hug6UIyyE) The ship is shown starting about 1 minute and a half into the video. ---
**Author:** ![Mr.Kobayashi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/4af34b/32.png) [@Mr.Kobayashi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mr.Kobayashi)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 5:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklins-lost-expedition-found/697980/49 "2016-09-13T05:55:04Z")
Came to bump this with the discovery of the _Terror_, glad to see you’re already on it! Who’da thunk they’d find it in Terror Bay? 😃 Some interesting conclusions - _“This discovery changes history,” he told the Guardian. “Given the location of the find [in Terror Bay] and the state of the wreck, it’s almost certain that HMS Terror was operationally closed down by the remaining crew who then re-boarded HMS Erebus and sailed south where they met their ultimate tragic fate.”_ > **[Ship found in Arctic 168 years after doomed Northwest Passage attempt](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2016/sep/12/hms-terror-wreck-found-arctic-nearly-170-years-northwest-passage-attempt)** > > Exclusive: Perfectly preserved HMS Terror vessel sank during disastrous expedition led by British explorer Sir John Franklin ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 3:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklins-lost-expedition-found/697980/50 "2016-09-13T15:36:10Z")
Fascinating. Thanks for keeping us posted. ---
**Author:** ![Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/46a35a/32.png) [@Tim\_T-Bonham.net](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Tim_T-Bonham.net)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 9:53pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklins-lost-expedition-found/697980/51 "2016-09-13T21:53:33Z")
> [@Northern\_Piper](#): > > Since the ship was a Royal Navy ship, it is still the property of the British government. Any attempts to explore the ship itself will probably need consent from the British government. So they just need the Queen of Canada to talk to the Queen of Britain, then? ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2016, 11:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklins-lost-expedition-found/697980/52 "2016-09-13T23:17:20Z")
> [@t-bonham@scc.net](#): > > So they just need the Queen of Canada to talk to the Queen of Britain, then? They are not amused. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2016, 3:34am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklins-lost-expedition-found/697980/53 "2016-09-14T03:34:34Z")
But _we_ are. ---
**Author:** ![Snorri\_Thorfinnsson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/77aa72/32.png) [@Snorri\_Thorfinnsson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snorri_Thorfinnsson)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 10:11pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklins-lost-expedition-found/697980/54 "2016-09-24T22:11:34Z")
> [@Malthus](#): > > I read somewhere that the two ships had quite different auxillary steam engines. So if those are preserved, they ought to be able to tell which it is. Here is an interesting article on the steam engines and the severe lead poisoning the expedition members suffered from. > **[Forensic Facts From the Fatal Franklin Expedition](https://www.huffpost.com/entry/franklin-expedition-northwest-passage_b_9013366)** > > The 1845 expedition led by Sir John Franklin to find the Northwest Passage was one of the biggest disasters in exploration history. FYI - The ships’ names would have been inscribed on their respective bells so identification should have been pretty easy. Another interesting tidbit was the discovery of one of the ship chronometers a few years back - it has historians pretty baffled. > **[Arctic riddle of 19th-century chronometer](https://www.theguardian.com/world/2009/may/20/arctic-chronometer-franklin)** > > Timepiece linked to Sir John Franklin's fatal Arctic expedition returns to Britain disguised as a carriage clock ---
**Author:** ![carnivorousplant](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/carnivorousplant/32/3563_2.png) [@carnivorousplant](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/carnivorousplant)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklins-lost-expedition-found/697980/55 "2016-09-24T23:16:42Z")
I wonder how many chronometers will be found in the wreck. ---
**Author:** ![Snorri\_Thorfinnsson](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/s/77aa72/32.png) [@Snorri\_Thorfinnsson](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Snorri_Thorfinnsson)\ **Post date:** [September 24, 2016, 11:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklins-lost-expedition-found/697980/56 "2016-09-24T23:23:56Z")
> [@carnivorousplant](#): > > I wonder how many chronometers will be found in the wreck. That answer partly depends on how many the expedition members took with them (for whatever reason - they took some pretty strange things with them (most likely due to impaired judgement from the lead poisoning) when they abandoned the ships) . I haven’t read of any being discovered among the artifacts and bodies that have been found - but I know not all of the expedition members have been accounted for over the years - although some remains might be found on the ships. ---
**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2018, 3:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklins-lost-expedition-found/697980/57 "2018-03-27T15:45:36Z")
Bumped. See the second new show mentioned here: [Return of 'Roseanne' and premiere of 'The Terror' among top TV viewing choices (videos) - cleveland.com](http://www.cleveland.com/tv-blog/index.ssf/2018/03/return_of_roseanne_and_premiere_of_the_terror_among_top_tv_viewing_choices_videos.html) ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [March 27, 2018, 4:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklins-lost-expedition-found/697980/58 "2018-03-27T16:44:02Z")
> [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](#): > > Bumped. > > See the second new show mentioned here: [Return of 'Roseanne' and premiere of 'The Terror' among top TV viewing choices (videos) - cleveland.com](http://www.cleveland.com/tv-blog/index.ssf/2018/03/return_of_roseanne_and_premiere_of_the_terror_among_top_tv_viewing_choices_videos.html) The Roseanne story arc getting into the rumours of cannibalism woven into the cognitive effects from ingesting too much lead? 😉 ---
**Author:** ![Leaffan](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/leaffan/32/299_2.png) [@Leaffan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Leaffan)\ **Post date:** [August 28, 2019, 10:50pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklins-lost-expedition-found/697980/59 "2019-08-28T22:50:35Z")
Bumped. New video from inside Terror. [![](https://img.youtube.com/vi/im2DtfgmMTc/maxresdefault.jpg "HMS Terror: New video from inside Arctic wreck reveals artifacts frozen in time") ](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=im2DtfgmMTc) (I’m not sure what the mobile link does to you computer or tablet people.) ---
**Author:** ![Morgyn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/morgyn/32/3041_2.png) [@Morgyn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Morgyn)\ **Post date:** [August 29, 2019, 12:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklins-lost-expedition-found/697980/60 "2019-08-29T00:17:14Z")
Are those intact China plates? And bottles! Wow. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklins-lost-expedition-found/697980.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/franklins-lost-expedition-found/697980.md?page=4)