# Frasier Reboot; Threat or Menace? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\ **Created:** [February 25, 2021, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722 "2021-02-25T13:29:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 3
**Author:** ![Yookeroo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/yookeroo/32/323_2.png) [@Yookeroo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Yookeroo)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2021, 9:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722/41 "2021-02-25T21:35:48Z")
> [@snowthx](#): > > Yes, this is the main question these days. Seems like all TV now is just the same, basic idea chosen from a menu: You should probably expand your viewing choices outside of the broadcast networks. ---
**Author:** ![bump](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/7c8e57/32.png) [@bump](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bump)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2021, 10:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722/42 "2021-02-25T22:16:42Z")
I think that’s a large part of it, although I think the popularity of the reboots and revivals has something to do with it. And very few of the reboots are really interesting, IMO. _Battlestar Galactica_ of a decade ago, is about the only one, and the rest seem to be just rehashes of the old stuff- what makes the new Magnum P.I. interesting, for example? Nothing that I can see. Revivals make more sense to me, in that often a show just sort of grows stale without having any fundamental problems, and just need some time to have some events (life, current, etc…) build up for the characters to deal with. I mean, there could have been some very funny pandemic-centric _Will & Grace_ episodes, for example. But otherwise you’re absolutely right. There are dozens of channels/streaming services all of which are competing for limited viewing time, and while it can be great for consumers who often get to watch a more tailored set of TV programs than otherwise, it also means that the viewer base is much more fragmented, and the competition is much more fierce. It is definitely true that viewership has gone down precipitously for any given show- for example, on [this list of the top 100 shows of 2019-2020](https://www.usatoday.com/story/entertainment/tv/2020/06/08/ratings-top-100-shows-2019-2020-tv-season/3144382001/), the best non-sports show was _NCIS_, with 15.3 million people watching on average, followed by _FBI_ with 12.6. By comparison [in 2002, _Friends_ averaged 24.5 million viewers per episode](https://www.mic.com/articles/28290/would-seinfeld-and-friends-be-popular-today), and the article goes on to point out that in 1995, 27.3 million people watched a **rerun** of _Grace Under Fire_ on a Tuesday night. ---
**Author:** ![Helena330](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/helena330/32/531_2.png) [@Helena330](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Helena330)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2021, 10:23pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722/43 "2021-02-25T22:23:12Z")
Paramount+ is CBS All-Access with a new name. I enjoyed Frasier and I’ll watch the revival. I hope Niles and Daphne have a bunch of kids. Niles dealing with all that … 😃 ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2021, 10:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722/44 "2021-02-25T22:27:46Z")
Teenage David will either be the direct opposite of Niles or exceed him in fussiness. ---
**Author:** ![amarinth](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/3be4f8/32.png) [@amarinth](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/amarinth)\ **Post date:** [February 25, 2021, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722/45 "2021-02-25T23:56:52Z")
I liked Frasier. I even sometimes have Frasier reruns in the background. The problems are 1 - they ran out of ideas three years before the show ended. The final few seasons are kind of painful. 2 - I have no interest in what the Cranes are doing today. It closed in a very good place. There were no open questions. They were settled. Let the fictional people alone. > [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > BTW, have _any_ of the recent epidemic of reboots/revivals been worthwhile? One Day at a Time was quite good. I heard good things about DuckTales, Queer Eye, and Twilight Zone. But one of those is a cartoon. The rest kept the premises and the names, but didn’t exhume the old characters and cast. They moved on. ---
**Author:** ![FlikTheBlue](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/fliktheblue/32/10972_2.png) [@FlikTheBlue](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/FlikTheBlue)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 12:13am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722/46 "2021-02-26T00:13:10Z")
> [@Dewey\_Finn](#): > > Although following Frasier, he’s been in a couple of series (Hank, Boss, Partners and Proven Innocent), none of which lasted more than a season. So he’s not been able to recapture the magic, which was, I think, a combination of good writing and a cast that worked well together. And being on the same night as Freinds and Seinfeld, IIRC ---
**Author:** ![simster](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/simster/32/1047_2.png) [@simster](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/simster)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 12:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722/47 "2021-02-26T00:29:31Z")
I fully disagree they ran out of ideas - [Nile’s Valentines prep](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EpImet3Xwgw) is still the funniest 5 minutes of TV since Tim Conway finished dentistry school. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 12:30am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722/48 "2021-02-26T00:30:35Z")
That helped, but Frasier was _really_ well-written and funny. Not everything in the NBC Thursday night slot succeeded but this show did. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 12:55am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722/49 "2021-02-26T00:55:40Z")
I started watching it because it was a _ **Cheers!** _ spinoff. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 12:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722/50 "2021-02-26T00:58:32Z")
Sure, and I watched Joey because it was a Friends spinoff. But it was awful. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 1:01am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722/51 "2021-02-26T01:01:01Z")
I’ve never liked _ **Friends** _, but _ **Cheers!** _ was great. ---
**Author:** ![TiberiusNeroClaudius](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/t/f04885/32.png) [@TiberiusNeroClaudius](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TiberiusNeroClaudius)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 1:47am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722/52 "2021-02-26T01:47:31Z")
It was inevitable; once they finished rebooting high quality shows like “Lost in Space”, “Full House” and “Saved by the Bell”. ---
**Author:** ![Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b77776/32.png) [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_was_in_Saudi)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 1:51am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722/53 "2021-02-26T01:51:31Z")
I was in London for a while when the _Lost in Space_ movie was in town. It had already flopped in the US. Some actor was on the radio talking about what a huge hit it was in the US. The main cinemas down in Leicester Square had a huge two-story-tall display to advertise the movie. Actors lie. Imagine that. ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 1:58am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722/54 "2021-02-26T01:58:53Z")
According to the Wikipedia article on the show, the reboot will be next year and on Paramount+, which means that I’ll never see it. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722/55 "2021-02-26T02:10:07Z")
Maybe you won’t see it when it first airs but you’ll be able to catch it some day, which is what I can say about most of the original Frasier episodes I’ve seen. There are entire sitcoms I’ve only seen in reruns. ---
**Author:** ![Superdude](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/superdude/32/13450_2.png) [@Superdude](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Superdude)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 2:10am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722/56 "2021-02-26T02:10:35Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > Does he regret not having children? Frasier had a child with Lilith. His name was Frederick. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 2:17am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722/57 "2021-02-26T02:17:32Z")
Frederick was born Nov. 2, 1989, so he’s now in his 30s. ---
**Author:** ![GuanoLad](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/guanolad/32/42_2.png) [@GuanoLad](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/GuanoLad)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 2:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722/58 "2021-02-26T02:23:22Z")
And the actor, Trevor Einhorn, was recently a regular on _The Magicians_, so no reason at all not to have the same actor back. Even though recasting may happen anyway. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 2:29am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722/59 "2021-02-26T02:29:57Z")
> [@Superdude](#): > > Frasier had a child with Lilith. His name was Frederick. I’d completely forgotten about that. Nice catch. ---
**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\ **Post date:** [February 26, 2021, 2:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722/60 "2021-02-26T02:31:04Z")
Frederick Gaylord, to be precise. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722.md?page=2) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722.md?page=4)