# Frasier Reboot; Threat or Menace?

**URL:** <https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722>\
**Category:** Cafe Society\
**Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\
**Created:** [February 25, 2021, 1:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722 "2021-02-25T13:29:20Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 20\
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**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2021, 7:17pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722/81 "2021-03-01T19:17:33Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> Maybe Fred could be Post Post Post Punk and wear his prep school uniform imprinted with anarchy symbols and safety pins in his brows.

He’s in his 30s and past that now. I imagine he has left some mind numbing professional occupation and he has to live with his dad because he can’t afford to live on his own based on his pay as a barista or some such common job while he tries to find his own self. Mom and Dad blame each other for the way he turned out, while Uncle Niles sympathizes with him and tries to help him out he really knows nothing about an unprivileged life. Luckily his Aunt Daphne has a little more experience with real life and can help him out once in a while. Sometimes some of his dad’s old friends from Boston drop by and try to get him to stop acting like such a pompous ass and you can guess how well that works out.

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**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2021, 7:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722/82 "2021-03-01T19:24:59Z")

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Honestly, I hope they’re more clever than any of us in terms of what they write about.

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**Author:** ![jsc1953](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/5daacb/32.png) [@jsc1953](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/jsc1953)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2021, 7:55pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722/83 "2021-03-01T19:55:02Z")

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Just piling on to say that, IMHO, the single funniest moment in all TV sitcom history – I know, that’s saying a lot – is when Frasier forgot the lyrics to “Buttons and Bows”.

And also to ask the OP if he was a fan of 1970’s era National Lampoon (the first place I ever saw the “threat or menace” dichotomy).

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [March 1, 2021, 10:24pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722/84 "2021-03-01T22:24:40Z")

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> [@Knowed\_Out](#):
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> Jane Fonda’s son went through a **wigger** phrase.

The word i bolded is absolutely not appropriate to use in this forum. Don’t do that again.

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**Author:** ![Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b77776/32.png) [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_was_in_Saudi)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2021, 12:42am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722/85 "2021-03-02T00:42:41Z")

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> [@jsc1953](#):
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> nd also to ask the OP if he was a fan of 1970’s era National Lampoon (the first place I ever saw the “threat or menace” dichotomy).

I almost certainly took the from the _Lampoon_ without realizing.

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**Author:** ![Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dr.winston_oboogie/32/2945_2.png) [@Dr.Winston\_OBoogie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dr.Winston_OBoogie)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2021, 3:05pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722/86 "2021-03-02T15:05:04Z")

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I am unfamiliar with the word you bolded there - what does it mean?

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**Author:** ![Knowed\_Out](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/knowed_out/32/7380_2.png) [@Knowed\_Out](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Knowed_Out)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2021, 3:48pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722/87 "2021-03-02T15:48:05Z")

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I’d explain, but it’s absolutely not appropriate for this forum.

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**Author:** ![Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b77776/32.png) [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_was_in_Saudi)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2021, 4:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722/88 "2021-03-02T16:00:09Z")

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And so again a thread runs off in a word chase.

As far as I am concerned, you can lock this discussion.

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**Author:** ![puzzlegal](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/puzzlegal/32/3827_2.png) [@puzzlegal](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/puzzlegal)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2021, 7:31pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722/89 "2021-03-02T19:31:52Z")

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It is a portmanteau of “white” and the “n word”. I wasn’t familiar with the word, either, but several of the mods were.

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**Author:** ![SenorBeef](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/senorbeef/32/2220_2.png) [@SenorBeef](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/SenorBeef)\
**Post date:** [March 2, 2021, 7:38pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722/90 "2021-03-02T19:38:17Z")

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> [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](#):
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> As far as I am concerned, you can lock this discussion.

Why? One guy shits in the punch bowl and we have to lock threads? This board is crazy lock-happy lately.

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**Author:** ![Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/b77776/32.png) [@Paul\_was\_in\_Saudi](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Paul_was_in_Saudi)\
**Post date:** [March 3, 2021, 12:56am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722/91 "2021-03-03T00:56:09Z")

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> [@SenorBeef](#):
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> This board is crazy lock-happy lately.

Is it? I have not noticed. Enjoy the thread if you like.

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2022, 6:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722/92 "2022-11-28T18:56:11Z")

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Bumped.

And alas:

> **[Grammer: Here's Why 'Niles' Won't Be in Frasier Reboot](https://www.newser.com/story/328369/grammer-heres-why-niles-wont-be-in-frasier-reboot.html?utm_source=part&utm_medium=synacor&utm_campaign=rss_entertainment_rel)**
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> David Hyde Pierce said no, leading to 'an entirely new life' for Frasier Crane

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**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2022, 7:36pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722/93 "2022-11-28T19:36:56Z")

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> [@terentii](#):
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> Millicent Martin is 86.

She was on the original British version of _That Was the Week that Was_, doing very biting satire; some of it definitely not safe for this thread.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2022, 7:44pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722/94 "2022-11-28T19:44:38Z")

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I’ve seen a Civil Rights-era clip from the show. Words were used that are banned today.

Millicent was really hot, though! 🥰

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**Author:** ![Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/e/7cd45c/32.png) [@Elendil\_s\_Heir](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Elendil_s_Heir)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2022, 8:01pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722/95 "2022-11-28T20:01:17Z")

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She never, ever, _ever_ amused me as Daphne’s mom on _Frasier_. She just annoyed me intensely.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2022, 9:15pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722/96 "2022-11-28T21:15:55Z")

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Daphe’s entire family was repugnant.

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**Post date:** [November 28, 2022, 9:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722/97 "2022-11-28T21:26:06Z")

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I suppose that with no Niles, there won’t be a Daphne.

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**Post date:** [November 28, 2022, 9:57pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722/98 "2022-11-28T21:57:15Z")

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I don’t know, it might be a fun twist if the new show treated Niles the way the old show treated Maris; always talked about but never seen.

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**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2022, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722/99 "2022-11-28T22:18:38Z")

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That’d be fantastic. Plenty of opportunity for Niles to be “on the phone” and you only hear Frasier’s side of the conversation.

I’d also like to see the show as Frasier as the Martin character while Fredrick is the Frasier character but in reverse - Fredrick is annoyed at Fraiser’s pretentiousness.

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**Author:** ![terentii](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/terentii/32/212_2.png) [@terentii](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/terentii)\
**Post date:** [November 28, 2022, 10:18pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot-threat-or-menace/933722/100 "2022-11-28T22:18:47Z")

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I predict David will be a younger copy of his father.

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