# Frasier reboot **URL:** \ **Category:** Cafe Society\ **Tags:** tv-shows-scripted\ **Created:** [September 16, 2023, 7:03pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot/990213 "2023-09-16T19:03:32Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 6
**Author:** ![Robot\_Arm](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/robot_arm/32/18280_2.png) [@Robot\_Arm](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Robot_Arm)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2023, 4:41am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot/990213/101 "2023-10-28T04:41:39Z")
> [@Kent\_Clark](#): > > At this point all I can figure is that the producers are deliberately making an effort to make all the firefighters good and everyone associated with Harvard an idiot. Harvard is, arguably, the second-finest university in all of Cambridge, Massachusetts. ---
**Author:** ![Push\_You\_Down](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/push_you_down/32/9095_2.png) [@Push\_You\_Down](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Push_You_Down)\ **Post date:** [October 28, 2023, 8:37pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot/990213/102 "2023-10-28T20:37:48Z")
> [@aceplace57](#): > > The Fraiser in that preview reminds me of the guy in _Cheers_. Before he cared for his disabled dad. I recently watched a very in-depth analysis of Frasier’s character arc on Cheers compared to his own show. The takeaway was that Frasier is incredibly malleable…by the end of the show (Cheers) Frasier could spout Shakespeare and also be shown watching sports with the rest of the gang. When his show started he had to regress back to snooty but you could justify it as him being away from that original environment. You can handwave it for this show that Frasier has lost touch with a lot of what we came to love in him late in his show…and he needs to rebuild relatonships that he let atrophy. ---
**Author:** ![aceplace57](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/aceplace57/32/3500_2.png) [@aceplace57](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/aceplace57)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 11:13pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot/990213/103 "2023-10-29T23:13:03Z")
@Push_You_Down Interesting point. I’d forgotten that Fraiser watched sports later on Cheers. I hope new friendships will mellow Fraiser again. Roz was great with comebacks whenever Fraiser got too full of himself. The new show needs a similar character. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [October 29, 2023, 11:16pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot/990213/104 "2023-10-29T23:16:35Z")
I always figured that while Niles was perfectly content to live in a posh bubble, Frasier really did have a need for some more down-to-earth experiences in his life. In Boston, he had to seek that out, at Cheers. In Seattle, that kind of experience was thrust upon him by his father (and Daphne), so he never needed to seek out a new Cheers. ---
**Author:** ![ISiddiqui](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/i/97f17d/32.png) [@ISiddiqui](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/ISiddiqui)\ **Post date:** [October 30, 2023, 4:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot/990213/105 "2023-10-30T16:35:38Z")
> [@Push\_You\_Down](#): > > You can handwave it for this show that Frasier has lost touch with a lot of what we came to love in him late in his show Especially considering the backstory is Frasier became something of a TV celebrity. Probably pushed him back into posh things. ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [November 9, 2023, 7:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot/990213/106 "2023-11-09T19:09:32Z")
The blind date episode was much more like classic _Frasier_. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2023, 1:49pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot/990213/107 "2023-11-10T13:49:09Z")
episodes 5 and 6 finally have the show on track. blind date was good. fred and frasier had good dialogue. i loved fred correcting frasier’s grammer. keep those grammer reins tight! if it had been niles and frasier there would have been more physical comedy. dhp is a physical comedy master. i’m glad they didn’t add david into the mix. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2023, 2:47pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot/990213/108 "2023-11-10T14:47:42Z")
It’s better but it does seem very much like Seattle Frasier again and not a Frasier who is older and fabulously wealthier and famous. That may be for the best. Also, Freddie is just plain dull. He shows nothing of his Sternin-Crane parentage even considering his rebellion from his upbringing. I don’t know what they expected from such an ordinary character. ---
**Author:** ![JacobSwan](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/a6a055/32.png) [@JacobSwan](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JacobSwan)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2023, 3:12pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot/990213/109 "2023-11-10T15:12:23Z")
Is it my imagination, or did they turn down the volume on the laugh track this week? It’s still there but a lot less grating than in the earlier episodes. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [November 10, 2023, 5:26pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot/990213/110 "2023-11-10T17:26:42Z")
Agreed that the story was classic Frasier. The idea of Frasier having a foil (Freddie) who can match him in verbal sparring like Niles, but has blue-collar tastes and sensibilities like Martin is a good one. But that was episode 6 in a 10 episode run. I wonder if enough viewers have stayed with this show this long to have Paramount+ give it another chance. According to IMDB, Roz will show up in episode 10. ---
**Author:** ![Kent\_Clark](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/kent_clark/32/105_2.png) [@Kent\_Clark](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Kent_Clark)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2023, 5:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot/990213/111 "2023-11-17T17:29:03Z")
We now have the episode where Lilith shows up. I have to say I am surprised to find out that Bebe Neuwirth is four years younger than Kelsey Grammer. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2023, 6:07pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot/990213/112 "2023-11-17T18:07:11Z")
It’s not clear why Niles’ son admires Frasier so much - Niles didn’t think much of Frasier’s radio show - the TV show would make the old Niles want to change his name (to Crane with an accent grave) and that show was on for the majority of young Crane’s life. Is admiring Frasier teenage rebellion for him? ---
**Author:** ![Dewey\_Finn](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/dewey_finn/32/4222_2.png) [@Dewey\_Finn](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Dewey_Finn)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2023, 9:06pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot/990213/113 "2023-11-17T21:06:34Z")
David thought his father was a ladies man so he probably really thinks highly of Frasier. ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [November 17, 2023, 11:56pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot/990213/114 "2023-11-17T23:56:11Z")
Niles managed to get married to three different women. ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2023, 8:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot/990213/115 "2023-11-18T08:14:36Z")
I was thinking Frasier did as well, but he never did marry Diane, did he? ---
**Author:** ![Andy\_L](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/a/c67d28/32.png) [@Andy\_L](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Andy_L)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2023, 1:08pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot/990213/116 "2023-11-18T13:08:11Z")
He married that hippie songer before Diane, then Lilith after Diane, and maybe that woman he was dating at the end of the original series ---
**Author:** ![colinfred](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/colinfred/32/21338_2.png) [@colinfred](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/colinfred)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2023, 1:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot/990213/117 "2023-11-18T13:10:04Z")
He only married Lillith and Nannette. Freddy in one of the recent episodes explictly states “married twice, left at the altar once” ---
**Author:** ![Darren\_Garrison](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/darren_garrison/32/92_2.png) [@Darren\_Garrison](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Darren_Garrison)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2023, 3:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot/990213/118 "2023-11-18T15:09:04Z")
> [@colinfred](#): > > He only married Lillith and Nannette. Only one _n_ for the hippy songer. [https://frasier.fandom.com/wiki/Nanette\_Guzman](https://frasier.fandom.com/wiki/Nanette_Guzman) ---
**Author:** ![TriPolar](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/tripolar/32/3008_2.png) [@TriPolar](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/TriPolar)\ **Post date:** [November 18, 2023, 4:10pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot/990213/119 "2023-11-18T16:10:34Z")
In the final appearance of the character on an episode of the final season of Frasier Nanny G (Nanette Guzman) was played by Laurie Metcalf who asked Frasier “Do you know what it’s like to play the same character for 20 years”. This was a joke about Grammer’s long run as Frasier but currently Metcalf has played the part of Jackie Harris since 1988 on the shows Roseanne and The Connors. ---
**Author:** ![rocking\_chair](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/rocking_chair/32/2918_2.png) [@rocking\_chair](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/rocking_chair)\ **Post date:** [November 27, 2023, 11:45pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot/990213/120 "2023-11-27T23:45:36Z")
The latest episode was rather good. Nice development on Fred, David was calmer, frasier was crazy. I like that Fred is trying to break the “over the top” cycle. He is more like his grandfather. [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot/990213.md?page=5) [Next page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/frasier-reboot/990213.md?page=7)