# Fraternity & sorority people, let's hear your voice! **URL:** \ **Category:** In My Humble Opinion\ **Created:** [January 28, 2003, 6:27am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fraternity-sorority-people-lets-hear-your-voice/151429 "2003-01-28T06:27:07Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 14\ **Page:** 2
**Author:** ![banks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/banks)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2003, 5:31am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fraternity-sorority-people-lets-hear-your-voice/151429/21 "2003-01-31T05:31:26Z")
**plnnr** , what chapter, if I may ask? Mine’s Eta Pi, Coastal Carolina University. ---
**Author:** ![bouv](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/bc8723/32.png) [@bouv](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/bouv)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2003, 5:46am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fraternity-sorority-people-lets-hear-your-voice/151429/22 "2003-01-31T05:46:57Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Nymysys \* > \*\*Alpha Gamma Delta. What’s to say? I was pretty enough to get in, wasn’t prissy enough to make friends. Plus, I dated more Alpha Chi Rhos than Pi Kappa Alphas. > > :waves at the crows above: > > Eventually I deactivated. It was silly to pay the dues for the right to wear a sweatshirt, which was pretty much all I was getting out of it. > > They were nice girls overall, but I can’t say I gleaned anything positive or negative from the experience. I know a lot of people made lifelong friends in the system, but for me…not so much. > > I don’t even have a sweatshirt anymore. Dammit. \*\* It’s funny that you mentioned you dated more Alpha Chi Rho’s than Pi Kappa Alpha’s, because I know two AGD’s who have dated guys from my chapter. Plus, you mention the “pretty enough to get in, wasn’t prissy enough to make friends” remark, because here, AGD is considered the “pretty, but bitchy” sorority. Though in my experience, they’re only bitchy towards each other…like all women 😛 ---
**Author:** ![Weirddave](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/919ad9/32.png) [@Weirddave](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Weirddave)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2003, 7:03am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fraternity-sorority-people-lets-hear-your-voice/151429/23 "2003-01-31T07:03:02Z")
Tau Epsilon Phi at Towson State, sadly, that colony never made chapter and petered out a few years after I graduated. I still enjoyed it, and we’re talking about getting together for a reunion this summer. TEP’s are tops! ---
**Author:** ![plnnr](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/p/7ea924/32.png) [@plnnr](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/plnnr)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2003, 1:00pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fraternity-sorority-people-lets-hear-your-voice/151429/24 "2003-01-31T13:00:48Z")
Epsilon Pi, Virginia Commonwealth University The Infamous Oyden ---
**Author:** ![Nymysys](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/n/f6c823/32.png) [@Nymysys](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Nymysys)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2003, 5:09pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fraternity-sorority-people-lets-hear-your-voice/151429/25 "2003-01-31T17:09:42Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by bouv \* > \*\*Plus, you mention the “pretty enough to get in, wasn’t prissy enough to make friends” remark, because here, AGD is considered the “pretty, but bitchy” sorority. \*\* Well, it’s good to know the AGDs are continuing their grand and longstanding tradition. 😉 Honestly, I’m not trying to badmouth them at all. They just weren’t the group for me. ---
**Author:** ![JaxBeachBoy](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/e19adc/32.png) [@JaxBeachBoy](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/JaxBeachBoy)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2003, 6:19pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fraternity-sorority-people-lets-hear-your-voice/151429/26 "2003-01-31T18:19:38Z")
Phi Delta Theta here too for the OP–you never refer to a fraternity as a “frat” unless you do the same abbreviation to your country (thats how it was explained to us in pledgeship, anyway) ---
**Author:** ![banks](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/b/278dde/32.png) [@banks](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/banks)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2003, 7:35pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fraternity-sorority-people-lets-hear-your-voice/151429/27 "2003-01-31T19:35:41Z")
Some folks are real uptight about the frat/fraternity !@#$/country deal. It varies from fraternity to fraternity and chapter to chapter. Myself, I almost never say frat. But it doesn’t bother me when people do. The country-abbreviation thing is just silly. I remember a rumor about the Pi Kappa Alpha chapter at my school kicking the crap out of a pledge for saying frat. In my whole semester of pledging, the issue of frat/fraternity was never even mentioned. It’s just not important to lots of people. ---
**Author:** ![wolfman](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/w/a8b319/32.png) [@wolfman](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/wolfman)\ **Post date:** [January 31, 2003, 7:51pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fraternity-sorority-people-lets-hear-your-voice/151429/28 "2003-01-31T19:51:20Z")
> [@](#): > > for the OP–you never refer to a fraternity as a “frat” > unless you do the same abbreviation to your country Well,If you went around calling your country a frat nobody woulld know what you are talking about. ---
**Author:** ![Debaser](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/d/3da27b/32.png) [@Debaser](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Debaser)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2003, 2:29pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fraternity-sorority-people-lets-hear-your-voice/151429/29 "2003-02-03T14:29:53Z")
Just to make things clear: It’s call your county a cunt. It’s a culture of the campus thing. Some colleges (UMASS Amherst, Bryant College) have no stigma about calling Fraternities “Frats”. Other colleges (Umass Lowell) using the word “frat” to describe a fraternity is an insult. If a freshman says “frat” at my house, he would be told that it’s not polite, and to say “Fraternity” instead. If someone who had been around for a while said “frat”, it would mean: F-R-A-T Fighting Rape Assholes Torture And, obviously, would be interpreted as a significant insult. It’s silly to assume that everyone knows about this, because like I said, it varies campus to campus. ---
**Author:** ![Mammie](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/m/49beb7/32.png) [@Mammie](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Mammie)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2003, 5:27pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fraternity-sorority-people-lets-hear-your-voice/151429/30 "2003-02-03T17:27:37Z")
I’m a twice proud Sigma Chi Mom…does that count? 😃 ---
**Author:** ![js\_africanus](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/j/87869e/32.png) [@js\_africanus](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/js_africanus)\ **Post date:** [February 3, 2003, 6:39pm UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fraternity-sorority-people-lets-hear-your-voice/151429/31 "2003-02-03T18:39:17Z")
> [@](#): > > \*Originally posted by Mammie \* > \*\*I’m a twice proud Sigma Chi Mom…does that count? 😃 \*\* Yep. ---
**Author:** ![Billdo](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/billdo/32/315_2.png) [@Billdo](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Billdo)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2003, 12:57am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fraternity-sorority-people-lets-hear-your-voice/151429/32 "2003-02-04T00:57:37Z")
As another Alpha Chi Rho brother, I suppose I should jump in. Phi Phi chapter, University of Pennsylvania. Former National Treasurer and National Ritual Officer. ---
**Author:** ![UncleBill](https://avatars.discourse-cdn.com/v4/letter/u/d26b3c/32.png) [@UncleBill](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/UncleBill)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2003, 1:14am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fraternity-sorority-people-lets-hear-your-voice/151429/33 "2003-02-04T01:14:24Z")
Kappa Alpha Order, Alpha Phi Chapter, Duke University. We had no Hell Night, and the Initiation Night was something I would have been proud to have my mother watch. We were the Nice Guys who were Good Dates, and had the best Formal on campus, a weekend away at the beach or in the mountains or in Charleston. We competed for the best GPA, and were fine upstanding men. But we had a chapter in Virginia who was less than upstanding, and went around stealing from other chapters of KA. Not stealing pencils, either. We got hit, did some checking to shake the false trail they had left, and found out who had done it. We paid them a visit. Three of us were Marine Corps ROTC, plus a bodybuilder and two other guys, arrived about 11pm Friday night, their house was quiet and the door was open, so we went in, passed several open doors with people inside, and took a look around. 15 minutes later we are in the basement and found a truckload of shit from all over the Southeast. Plus stuff we had stolen from us in years past. Like National Awards and Composite Pictures, irreplaceable stuff. We took notes, and then called for their president and confronted him. There was one very important award we did not find, and we told him he had 15 minutes to produce it or we were going to National with the evidence (National was in the same town, so they knew we could do it.) Some pledge came sprinting up with the award maybe 14 and a half minutes later, and we sternly told them not to mess with us or we woulodn’t be so nice about things. Every one of us was bigger then any one of them. We left, went to a McDonalds and waited until about 2am, then wrote our chapter letters in their lawn with bleach. Pranks are one thing, this was grand theft, with no plan for returning stuff. ---
**Author:** ![Muffin](https://sea3.discourse-cdn.com/straightdope/user_avatar/boards.straightdope.com/muffin/32/4341_2.png) [@Muffin](https://boards.straightdope.com/u/Muffin)\ **Post date:** [February 4, 2003, 1:23am UTC](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fraternity-sorority-people-lets-hear-your-voice/151429/34 "2003-02-04T01:23:15Z")
Psi Upsilon, Nu Chapter (University of Toronto) To make a long story short, to obtain a chapter house, we purchased a drug rehab center from the Church of Scientology, gutted it down to a shell, and then had our renovations halted for a winter due to a building permit irregularity. You can imagine the rest. (But my fraternity brothers were some of the finest people I’'ve ever had the pleasure to meet. I treasure the friendships we made.) [Previous page](https://boards.straightdope.com/t/fraternity-sorority-people-lets-hear-your-voice/151429.md?page=1)